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Old Sep 3, 2010, 8:42 am
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Originally Posted by mozgytog
We could mirror at different URLs. If you guys come up with some, we could register more URLs.

I can contribute to the cost of domains. We'll have to think of something that isn't already registered. What do you think of 'bodyscannerinfo.com/org/net/info/us' or 'airportbodyscannerinfo.com/net/org/info/us'?

I can pony up the registration fees for at least some of those.
All you have to do is redirect a domain to "nudeoscope.com". Or you can indicate that the domain is hosted by my ISP (name servers "ns1.fatcow.com" and "ns2.fatcow.com"); I can then handle the redirect within one of my accounts.

However, given that it's now been a week with no great alternatives put forth, I suspect we're going with some version of "nudeoscope" or "nude-o-scope".

As much as I hate spamming in any form, one of the best ways to get this noticed in Google is to mention it in when you leave comments on news articles on-line. However, we should all be pushing the same site, which brings us back to my original question: "nudeoscope" or "nude-o-scope"? .com, .org or .net? Presently all 6 end up at "nudeoscope.com".

With regard to search engine rankings, a content-rich URL helps but really isn't necessary. Links by themselves aren't all that useful. What matters most is the content surrounding links. When you make that spammy comment & slip in a gratuitous reference to "nudeoscope.com" or whatever, be sure your comment references important key words, e.g. WBI, whole-body imager, enhanced pat down, fondle, sexual assualt, etc.

Originally Posted by doober
A suggestion from one of the people to whom I sent the brochure:

Top left, front page:

What will your or your child's image look like?
+1

Good one! That will hit home with a lot of people.
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Old Sep 3, 2010, 8:57 am
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Originally Posted by MikeMpls
As much as I hate spamming in any form, one of the best ways to get this noticed in Google is to mention it in when you leave comments on news articles on-line. However, we should all be pushing the same site, which brings us back to my original question: "nudeoscope" or "nude-o-scope"? .com, .org or .net? Presently all 6 end up at "nudeoscope.com".
We should also think about sending the URL to travel writers, especially those who've been skeptical of the nudeoscopes.
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Old Sep 3, 2010, 9:06 am
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Originally Posted by TNGALINFLORIDA
I'm sure this is probably on your to-do list regarding the website, but I think under the "Links" page you could add articles from reliable news outlets about the WBI and Enhanced Pat Downs and maybe even a video or two. There are also quite a few great opinion pieces at websites like CNN.com and Newsweek.com that might add further validity to our argument.

Other Groups Fighting Back:

http://www.prlog.org/10891401-airlin...a-tyranny.html

*Great article that shows even those flying the planes that TSA is supposed secure, don't like and trust the new security measures.

http://www.consumertraveler.com/toda...ing-travelers/


News outlets/Credible links:

http://www.bostonherald.com/business...iz#articleFull
http://www.hstoday.us/content/view/14476/128/
http://wbztv.com/local/pat.downs.airport.2.1872376.html
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...canners19.html


Opinion pieces:

http://www.newsweek.com/2010/01/06/a...e-problem.html
http://www.cnn.com/2009/OPINION/12/3....../index.html
http://aclu-nm.org/body-scanners-rai...cerns/2010/05/
http://www.newser.com/story/98924/ne...e-groping.html
http://www.aclu.org/blog/technology-...vasion-privacy

I'm sure there are plenty more articles out there to be found and posted.

Also - what about having the share/like buttons for Facebook and Twitter? I'm not exactly sure how one goes about putting those on a website, but it would be a quick and easy way for the word to get out. I put the Boston Herald link on my FB page the other day and had quite a few comments and a few people shared the link on their own pages. Anything to get people talking!

Great job on both the wesbite and the flyers to all those who dedicated their time and effort. I really hope everyone's diligence pays off soon and gets the general public to open their eyes to this complete and utter nonsense.
Thanks for the extra sources! I'm doing some MRs this week, but I'll have some time tonight to catch-up on the revisions that have been suggested. I really like the idea about FB/Twitter, and I'll see what would need to be done to allow people to "like" the page. Thanks for the suggestion!

Originally Posted by T-the-B
Please add a link where one can download a PDF version of the brochure.
I'll have that up tonight.

Originally Posted by JSmith1969
We should also think about sending the URL to travel writers, especially those who've been skeptical of the nudeoscopes.
Excellent idea. I'm hoping to have all of the changes made this weekend, so it could be ready for the media to view early next week.


As far as the revisions to the brochure, could the person that made the brochure that I've got on the website please look into some of the changes? Thanks!
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Old Sep 3, 2010, 9:09 am
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Originally Posted by MikeMpls
All you have to do is redirect a domain to "nudeoscope.com". Or you can indicate that the domain is hosted by my ISP (name servers "ns1.fatcow.com" and "ns2.fatcow.com"); I can then handle the redirect within one of my accounts.

However, given that it's now been a week with no great alternatives put forth, I suspect we're going with some version of "nudeoscope" or "nude-o-scope".
My suggestions were for airportbodyscannerinfo or bodyscannerinfo since there are a lot of people who will be very very hesitant to click a link to something with the word 'nude' in it, and in fact it might be filtered for a lot of people who would want to look up this information while at work or a public library or anywhere that uses content filtering.

Re-direction could be a problem for people who have filtering or firewalls that looks for words like nude and blocks the site as potentially pornographic. While having people realize that the TSA's view of these naked images could very well be considered pornographic, having our message blocked by filtering makes it that much harder to get the word out.

I'm thinking about this in terms of appealing to the broadest possible audience, which includes Mr. and Mrs. Middle American Conservative whose internet Flanders-Filters are usually cranked up to 11.

How would you suggest we handle that?
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Old Sep 3, 2010, 10:05 am
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Originally Posted by mozgytog
My suggestions were for airportbodyscannerinfo or bodyscannerinfo since there are a lot of people who will be very very hesitant to click a link to something with the word 'nude' in it, and in fact it might be filtered for a lot of people who would want to look up this information while at work or a public library or anywhere that uses content filtering.
Can't think of anything better than airportbodyscanner.org and I take the point re: search engines.
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Old Sep 3, 2010, 10:14 am
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New poll to vote on

http://www.pnwlocalnews.com/east_kin...102021278.html

Choices are:
1. It's great. It'll help keep us safer.
2. Not a good idea. This will make getting through security much longer.
3. Doesn't bother me either way.

They missed a few obvoius choices.
Anyway, #2 is running at 25% at noon today.
Please contribute.
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Old Sep 3, 2010, 10:40 am
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Originally Posted by Wimpie
http://www.pnwlocalnews.com/east_kin...102021278.html

Choices are:
1. It's great. It'll help keep us safer.
2. Not a good idea. This will make getting through security much longer.
3. Doesn't bother me either way.

They missed a few obvoius choices.
Anyway, #2 is running at 25% at noon today.
Please contribute.
Now 40%......I'm not certain that I like that they show the number of votes cast.
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Old Sep 3, 2010, 10:48 am
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Originally Posted by mozgytog
OK... here's my offer then. I will put down 100$ right now to register domains, and will gladly Paypal it to anyone who wants to do the domain registrations.
+100. Very nice gesture. This got me wondering. How much would a full-sized ad in the NYT cost? Could we generate that on FT? Maybe get some professional design help for the ad?
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Old Sep 3, 2010, 11:20 am
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Thanks for the pointer. Comment I left there:
The time this takes is the least of my concern. We should not be required to undergo strip searches -- physical or virtual -- in order to travel from one state to another via commercial air. Our federal government is using machines to look under our clothes, and your survey asks people if this is A) great, B) likely to slow us down, or C) immaterial. You're really missing the point.
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Old Sep 3, 2010, 11:34 am
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Originally Posted by Wally Bird
Can't think of anything better than airportbodyscanner.org and I take the point re: search engines.
Personally, I really liked the suggestion that someone made a while back in this thread of "airportdignity.com" or something similar.

Something similar to "travelsecurity.com", "wbifacts.com", or "aitfacts.com" might work well too.

I agree that something with the word "nude" in the URL might cause folks who don't know what it really is to not visit-- especially if doing so from a work-related computer.
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Old Sep 3, 2010, 11:38 am
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Originally Posted by pmocek
Thanks for the pointer. Comment I left there:
Your coment is spot on. They've created a false dichotomy between safety and convenience Goethe purposes of getting a desired result in the poll.

The crux of the issue is our right to be free of unreasonable search versus the illusion of safety.
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Old Sep 3, 2010, 11:54 am
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My comment as posted regarding the poll:

Agree with previous poster. This is an egregious invasion of privacy. Prisoners have more protected rights than air travelers. TSA is out of control spending lots of taxpayers money with no oversight.

Just keep repeating the mantra.....anything to keep us safe.
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Old Sep 3, 2010, 12:00 pm
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Originally Posted by FriendlySkies
The NoS website is now up and running! For those of you not familiar with it, please visit www.nudeoscope.com
That. Is. Awesome. ^

Originally Posted by Wally Bird
Can't think of anything better than airportbodyscanner.org and I take the point re: search engines.
Actually, we may want to consider something like TSAScreening.com, TSATruth.com, etc. since the TSA is mission creeping into other areas. I don't see a need to paint ourselves into the corner with just one issue (Nude-O-Scopes) when there are so many other things we can counter the TSA spin on. That would also keep the url out of the reach of a pr0n filter.
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Old Sep 3, 2010, 12:18 pm
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Originally Posted by N965VJ
Actually, we may want to consider something like TSAScreening.com, TSATruth.com, etc. since the TSA is mission creeping into other areas.
We need to be focused. We can deal TSA a major blow in one key area -- Nudo-O-Scopes -- and the punitive sexual assaults for those who opt out. They've invested so much political capital in the Nude-O-Scopes that it will be a major defeat for them.

If we try to attack TSA head on on multiple fronts, we'll lose.
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Old Sep 3, 2010, 12:33 pm
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Originally Posted by MikeMpls
We need to be focused. We can deal TSA a major blow in one key area -- Nudo-O-Scopes -- and the punitive sexual assaults for those who opt out. They've invested so much political capital in the Nude-O-Scopes that it will be a major defeat for them.

If we try to attack TSA head on on multiple fronts, we'll lose.
I disagree. Exposing TSA behavior on multiple fronts could be an effective tactic.
While they are hopping on one foot, don't resist the inclination to kick it out from under them. Don't allow them a moment to catch their breath.
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