Norwegian budget long-haul [news and experience reports]
#181
Join Date: Nov 2013
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From airliners.net:
Apparently, a Norwegian 787 flight from Bangkok was cancelled [yesterday] due to a fuel valve leak. A video of the leak was posted here (in Norwegian):
http://www.nordlys.no/nyheter/article7113814.ece
http://www.nordlys.no/nyheter/article7113814.ece
#182
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Leaking fuel and the customer experience ...
From airliners.net:
Apparently, a Norwegian 787 flight from Bangkok was cancelled [yesterday] due to a fuel valve leak. A video of the leak was posted here (in Norwegian):
http://www.nordlys.no/nyheter/article7113814.ece
Apparently, a Norwegian 787 flight from Bangkok was cancelled [yesterday] due to a fuel valve leak. A video of the leak was posted here (in Norwegian):
http://www.nordlys.no/nyheter/article7113814.ece
Snacky
#183
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I have booked for the first flight back from LAX on March 1st and in reading all the reviews, I have mixed feelings. Some say the airline is bad and some say the airline is good. Obviously, I'm not holding my breath. However, I am a bit concerned with the quality of food especially if I have to pay for it. I'm going to assume that given DY has been having issues with the 787, I should expect a delay in my flight if not worse. I purchased a my flight home on BA just to be on the safe side, though no guarantees.
#185
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It continues to baffle me how much troubble DY has with their 787s. Other carriers do not have that to the same degree. It seems that DY has pushed it beyond the limit in terms of "in air" time.
What is even more troubling is that they consistently not perform on customer service, information and even lie to customers and the public ("please delete pictures", or as the press contact in Denmark claimed that DY "most certainly rebook passengers on other airlines in case og iregularities...", etc.).
I have to fly them domestically in DK, but that is it. Would no go near them otherwise.
What is even more troubling is that they consistently not perform on customer service, information and even lie to customers and the public ("please delete pictures", or as the press contact in Denmark claimed that DY "most certainly rebook passengers on other airlines in case og iregularities...", etc.).
I have to fly them domestically in DK, but that is it. Would no go near them otherwise.
#186
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Every plane may or may not be delayed, and an open valve could happen on any aircraft if ground personnel does not know what theyre doing.
#187
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Not really. They choose the 787 gold service package by Boeing because it offered the cheapest MRO service for the first launch customers. Now they are quickly learning that an aircraft manufacturer doesn't have the expertise to do line maintenance. Sadly they also got two of the really bad lemons from the 787 line which amplifies the learning curve Boeing is going thru offering their new service.
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Not really. They choose the 787 gold service package by Boeing because it offered the cheapest MRO service for the first launch customers. Now they are quickly learning that an aircraft manufacturer doesn't have the expertise to do line maintenance. Sadly they also got two of the really bad lemons from the 787 line which amplifies the learning curve Boeing is going thru offering their new service.
#189
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Well, regardless I not getting anywhere close to a DY long haul route.
#190
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Puh... I don't really know... Boeing introduced a number of new things with the 787, and DY signed up for all of it pretty early on in order to get the maximum discount. I can understand why they did it, thats what entrepreneurship is all about, taking calculated risks. So far it doesn't look like they are loosing anything. In 1-2 years when the 787 reliability is 'normal', the fleet is a bit bigger, Boeing learns to do MRO etc etc, the public will continue to book DY and they will start to make serious money. The captive audience DY aims for is looking for a deal. As long as they can weather the aftonbladet style reporting storm and still fill aircraft (which I think is the case) and skim compensation payments from Boeing they should be fine.
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Puh... I don't really know... Boeing introduced a number of new things with the 787, and DY signed up for all of it pretty early on in order to get the maximum discount. I can understand why they did it, thats what entrepreneurship is all about, taking calculated risks. So far it doesn't look like they are loosing anything. In 1-2 years when the 787 reliability is 'normal', the fleet is a bit bigger, Boeing learns to do MRO etc etc, the public will continue to book DY and they will start to make serious money. The captive audience DY aims for is looking for a deal. As long as they can weather the aftonbladet style reporting storm and still fill aircraft (which I think is the case) and skim compensation payments from Boeing they should be fine.
#192
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Puh... I don't really know... Boeing introduced a number of new things with the 787, and DY signed up for all of it pretty early on in order to get the maximum discount. I can understand why they did it, thats what entrepreneurship is all about, taking calculated risks. So far it doesn't look like they are loosing anything. In 1-2 years when the 787 reliability is 'normal', the fleet is a bit bigger, Boeing learns to do MRO etc etc, the public will continue to book DY and they will start to make serious money. The captive audience DY aims for is looking for a deal. As long as they can weather the aftonbladet style reporting storm and still fill aircraft (which I think is the case) and skim compensation payments from Boeing they should be fine.
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Interesting read.
http://atwonline.com/airframes/boein...87-reliability
I guess when they count the 97 and 98 percent in October and November, the reliability only registers if the flight got of the ground, not if it was 24H+ delayed. As a passenger the one I would register as the problem would also include the delay.
Seems to be Nayak not Monarch doing the service on behalf of Boeing. Did Boeing squeeze the subcontractor agreement, or why would an established service operation suddenly struggle this much?
http://atwonline.com/airframes/boein...87-reliability
I guess when they count the 97 and 98 percent in October and November, the reliability only registers if the flight got of the ground, not if it was 24H+ delayed. As a passenger the one I would register as the problem would also include the delay.
Seems to be Nayak not Monarch doing the service on behalf of Boeing. Did Boeing squeeze the subcontractor agreement, or why would an established service operation suddenly struggle this much?
#194
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DY too optimistic on turn-around times
http://www.check-in.dk/newselement.c...6#.Uui26v57zDc
(sorry Danish only)
Basically it shows that while msot other IC carriers plan on a 120min turn-around at JFK, DY believes that have the golden nugget so they can do it in 90min. Very likely part of the reason why DY is consistently unreliable on their long haul.
(sorry Danish only)
Basically it shows that while msot other IC carriers plan on a 120min turn-around at JFK, DY believes that have the golden nugget so they can do it in 90min. Very likely part of the reason why DY is consistently unreliable on their long haul.
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http://www.check-in.dk/newselement.c...6#.Uui26v57zDc
(sorry Danish only)
Basically it shows that while msot other IC carriers plan on a 120min turn-around at JFK, DY believes that have the golden nugget so they can do it in 90min. Very likely part of the reason why DY is consistently unreliable on their long haul.
(sorry Danish only)
Basically it shows that while msot other IC carriers plan on a 120min turn-around at JFK, DY believes that have the golden nugget so they can do it in 90min. Very likely part of the reason why DY is consistently unreliable on their long haul.