Aug 1, 2016, 1:42 pm
Last edit by: Kiwi Flyer
Intercontinental and Transcontinental
Watch out for codeshares and some routes have multiple aircraft types operating (with and without first class).
Names used for First Class
First Class - AA, BA, CX, JL, KA, QF, QR
Some airlines (e.g. BA, QF) also simply brand it as First
Business Suites - MH
American Airlines
Aircraft type
All mainline aircraft type, but 10 Hawaii 757 & MD-80 first class are of poor standard.
Only 20 777-300ER and 17 A321T aircraft with 3 class First are listed below.
(All 777-200ER / 772 have been refitted and have no F cabin.)
Routes
Between Chicago O'Hare and
NONE
Between Dallas Fort Worth and
Hong Kong
London Heathrow (2 of 3 flights)
Between Los Angeles and
Hong Kong (1 flight)
London Heathrow (1 flight)
Between Miami and
Buenos Aires (1 flight)
London Heathrow (1 flight)
Between New York JFK and
London Heathrow (1 flight)
Los Angeles (all flights)
San Francisco (all flights)
Sao Paulo
British Airways
Aircraft type
747, 777 (some), 789 and A380.
Routes
Between London Heathrow and
Abu Dhabi
Abuja
Atlanta
Austin
Bahrain
Bangalore
Beijing
Boston
Cairo
Cape Town
Chicago
Dallas
Delhi (some flights)
Denver
Doha
Dubai
Hong Kong
Houston
Johannesburg
Kuala Lumpur
Kuwait
Lagos
Los Angeles
Luanda
Mexico City
Miami
Moscow DME
Mumbai
Muscat
New York JFK
Newark (some flights)
Philadelphia (some flights)
Phoenix
Santiago SCL
San Diego
San Francisco
San Jose SJC
Sao Paulo
Seattle
Shanghai
Singapore
Sydney
Tel Aviv (some flights)
Tokyo HND
Tokyo NRT
Toronto (some flights)
Vancouver
Washington IAD (some flights)
Between London Gatwick and
Bermuda
Bridgetown
Grenada
Port of Spain
St Lucia
San Jose SJO
Between St Lucia and
Grenada
Port of Spain
Between Singapore and
Sydney
Cathay Pacific
Aircraft type
777-300ER (33 frames out of 53)
Routes
Between Hong Kong and
Boston
Chicago
Frankfurt
Jakarta (some flights May to October 2018)
London Heathrow (some flights)
Los Angeles (some flights)
Milan
New York JFK
Paris CDG (some flights)
San Francisco (some flights)
Tokyo HND (some flights)
Vancouver (some flights)
Zurich
Between Vancouver and
New York JFK
Dragonair
Aircraft type
A330 (some flights only)
Routes
Between Hong Kong and
Beijing
Kaohsiung
Shanghai
Taipei
Japan Airlines
Aircraft type
domestic 772 (W15/W16) 14 seats (2-2-2)
domestic 763 (A25) 5 seats (2-1-2)
international 773 (W84) 8 seats (1-2-1)
Routes
Between Tokyo Haneda and
Chitose
Fukuoka
Okinawa
Osaka ITM
London Heathrow
New York JFK
Paris CDG
San Francisco
Between Tokyo Narita and
Chicago
Los Angeles
New York JFK
LATAM
None
Malaysia Airlines
Aircraft type
A380
Routes
Between Kuala Lumpur and
London Heathrow
Qantas
Aircraft type
A380 (but some flights sold without F e.g. occasional SYD-HKG)
Routes
Between Sydney and
Dallas
Hong Kong (some flights)
London Heathrow (via Singapore)
Los Angeles
Between Melbourne and
Los Angeles (QF93/94 only)
Singapore
Between Singapore and
London Heathrow
Qatar
Aircraft type
A330 (only one), A380
Routes
Between Doha and
Bangkok (seasonal, some flights)
London LHR (some flights)
Guangzhou
Melbourne (seasonal - Northern Winter)
Paris CDG (1 flight/day)
Sydney (seasonal - Northern Winter)
some intra-Middle East routes have 2-class F (J seat, J food and J wine sold as F)
Last updated: 14APR2018
Updated to post: 235
Updated AA flights 24APR2018
Watch out for codeshares and some routes have multiple aircraft types operating (with and without first class).
Names used for First Class
First Class - AA, BA, CX, JL, KA, QF, QR
Some airlines (e.g. BA, QF) also simply brand it as First
Business Suites - MH
American Airlines
Aircraft type
All mainline aircraft type, but 10 Hawaii 757 & MD-80 first class are of poor standard.
Only 20 777-300ER and 17 A321T aircraft with 3 class First are listed below.
(All 777-200ER / 772 have been refitted and have no F cabin.)
Routes
Between Chicago O'Hare and
NONE
Between Dallas Fort Worth and
Hong Kong
London Heathrow (2 of 3 flights)
Between Los Angeles and
Hong Kong (1 flight)
London Heathrow (1 flight)
Between Miami and
Buenos Aires (1 flight)
London Heathrow (1 flight)
Between New York JFK and
London Heathrow (1 flight)
Los Angeles (all flights)
San Francisco (all flights)
Sao Paulo
British Airways
Aircraft type
747, 777 (some), 789 and A380.
Routes
Between London Heathrow and
Abu Dhabi
Abuja
Atlanta
Austin
Bahrain
Bangalore
Beijing
Boston
Cairo
Cape Town
Chicago
Dallas
Delhi (some flights)
Denver
Doha
Dubai
Hong Kong
Houston
Johannesburg
Kuala Lumpur
Kuwait
Lagos
Los Angeles
Luanda
Mexico City
Miami
Moscow DME
Mumbai
Muscat
New York JFK
Newark (some flights)
Philadelphia (some flights)
Phoenix
Santiago SCL
San Diego
San Francisco
San Jose SJC
Sao Paulo
Seattle
Shanghai
Singapore
Sydney
Tel Aviv (some flights)
Tokyo HND
Tokyo NRT
Toronto (some flights)
Vancouver
Washington IAD (some flights)
Between London Gatwick and
Bermuda
Bridgetown
Grenada
Port of Spain
St Lucia
San Jose SJO
Between St Lucia and
Grenada
Port of Spain
Between Singapore and
Sydney
Cathay Pacific
Aircraft type
777-300ER (33 frames out of 53)
Routes
Between Hong Kong and
Boston
Chicago
Frankfurt
Jakarta (some flights May to October 2018)
London Heathrow (some flights)
Los Angeles (some flights)
Milan
New York JFK
Paris CDG (some flights)
San Francisco (some flights)
Tokyo HND (some flights)
Vancouver (some flights)
Zurich
Between Vancouver and
New York JFK
Dragonair
Aircraft type
A330 (some flights only)
Routes
Between Hong Kong and
Beijing
Kaohsiung
Shanghai
Taipei
Japan Airlines
Aircraft type
domestic 772 (W15/W16) 14 seats (2-2-2)
domestic 763 (A25) 5 seats (2-1-2)
international 773 (W84) 8 seats (1-2-1)
Routes
Between Tokyo Haneda and
Chitose
Fukuoka
Okinawa
Osaka ITM
London Heathrow
New York JFK
Paris CDG
San Francisco
Between Tokyo Narita and
Chicago
Los Angeles
New York JFK
LATAM
None
Malaysia Airlines
Aircraft type
A380
Routes
Between Kuala Lumpur and
London Heathrow
Qantas
Aircraft type
A380 (but some flights sold without F e.g. occasional SYD-HKG)
Routes
Between Sydney and
Dallas
Hong Kong (some flights)
London Heathrow (via Singapore)
Los Angeles
Between Melbourne and
Los Angeles (QF93/94 only)
Singapore
Between Singapore and
London Heathrow
Qatar
Aircraft type
A330 (only one), A380
Routes
Between Doha and
Bangkok (seasonal, some flights)
London LHR (some flights)
Guangzhou
Melbourne (seasonal - Northern Winter)
Paris CDG (1 flight/day)
Sydney (seasonal - Northern Winter)
some intra-Middle East routes have 2-class F (J seat, J food and J wine sold as F)
Last updated: 14APR2018
Updated to post: 235
Updated AA flights 24APR2018
OW first class routes thread
Aug 19, 2013, 11:27 am
#106
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... would be my preferred option. Book open jaws and/or make good use of stopover rules. Buy 'local' flights for cash or miles depending on what's a good deal, choosing the class of travel based on how long the segments are.
Your question and its responses will be moved soon, I hope, as this thread actually has a different purpose: a reference thread listing routes on which OW carriers operate F service.
Last edited by IMH; Aug 19, 2013 at 12:26 pm Reason: corrected typo OQ for OW
Aug 19, 2013, 12:19 pm
#107
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I will consider that. That said, what are the best intra-Asian One World flights in F? I think that seems consistent with this thread...
Sep 17, 2013, 4:00 pm
#108
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Looking around for F flights on OW, can't seem to find anything between PEK and NRT.
Can folks help me find the best F flights if I want to go to these cities?
BOS-HKG-NRT-PEK-PNH-HTY-BOS
I want to keep BOS-HKG bc I can take CX via JFK. But the rest I'm not so picky about. Suggestions?
Can folks help me find the best F flights if I want to go to these cities?
BOS-HKG-NRT-PEK-PNH-HTY-BOS
I want to keep BOS-HKG bc I can take CX via JFK. But the rest I'm not so picky about. Suggestions?
Sep 17, 2013, 8:54 pm
#109
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[QUOTE=tennisboy;21461804]Looking around for F flights on OW, can't seem to find anything between PEK and NRT.
JAL is the only oneworld carrier flying direct PEK-NRT or PEK-HND and neither city offers first class configurations. To get first class between these two cities using oneworld in Asia you could try PEK-HKG on Dragonair (A333 has First seats) and then use Cathay HKG-NRT or HKG-HND on a few of the flights that do offer First (77W and certain 744).
JAL is the only oneworld carrier flying direct PEK-NRT or PEK-HND and neither city offers first class configurations. To get first class between these two cities using oneworld in Asia you could try PEK-HKG on Dragonair (A333 has First seats) and then use Cathay HKG-NRT or HKG-HND on a few of the flights that do offer First (77W and certain 744).
Sep 18, 2013, 5:51 am
#110
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But if HKG is my first stop, and then I want to go to PEK and Tokyo, how could I do it in F? Can I go HKG-PEK on Dragon and then PEK-NRT or HND in F on JAL? I did notice one flight a day is on the 787, albeit in business.
The other option is to go BOS-NRT on JAL on the 787, but I hear that is an inferior F product to CX's BOS-JFK-HKG product. Thoughts on that too??
Thanks
The other option is to go BOS-NRT on JAL on the 787, but I hear that is an inferior F product to CX's BOS-JFK-HKG product. Thoughts on that too??
Thanks
Sep 18, 2013, 10:49 am
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Sep 18, 2013, 3:37 pm
#113
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Ouch, OK. Good to know re the 787 on JAL. We may be forced to fly NRT-BOS or BOS-NRT if our routing works out to have too many HKG's in the segments, but with Malaysia Airlines on board now we may use KUL as a secondary jump off point (to HKT or Siem Riep) to avoid too many HKG segments.
People have told me to add Kyoto and Karabi and Bali and Myanmar too. We can't do all of those on top of PEK, HKG, NRT, HKT and Siem Riep but we can maybe add one or so. Thoughts on these?
People have told me to add Kyoto and Karabi and Bali and Myanmar too. We can't do all of those on top of PEK, HKG, NRT, HKT and Siem Riep but we can maybe add one or so. Thoughts on these?
Sep 18, 2013, 7:17 pm
#114
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I don't like CX's F seat. It has narrow foot space. Haven't tried the new F bedding but the old one was simply uncomfortable as you can feel the bumps easily. Not to mention the catering definitely and service level consistency have a lot of room for improvement.
Sep 19, 2013, 5:33 am
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[QUOTE=JALPak;21468155]I don't like CX's F seat. It has narrow foot space. Haven't tried the new F bedding but the old one was simply uncomfortable as you can feel the bumps easily. Not to mention the catering definitely and service level consistency have a lot of room for improvement.[/QUOTE
"I don't like CX's F seat"
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Sep 19, 2013, 8:47 am
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[MODERATOR HAT ON]
Please limit posts in this thread to discussions of Oneworld first class routes, rather than specific itineraries, issues with individual FFP award rules, and so on. Questions and comments regarding airline FFPs should be directed to that airline's forum, not the Oneworld board. Thanks for keeping this thread on point.
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Please limit posts in this thread to discussions of Oneworld first class routes, rather than specific itineraries, issues with individual FFP award rules, and so on. Questions and comments regarding airline FFPs should be directed to that airline's forum, not the Oneworld board. Thanks for keeping this thread on point.
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Sep 24, 2013, 9:49 am
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Sep 24, 2013, 8:02 pm
#120
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It's up to the one paying for the ticket to decide. This thread is not to list routes with F service which we think are good use of a segment. It is to maintain a list of routes with F service so people can easily decide and plan for their itineraries. That's why I pointed out those routes are missing from the list.