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OW first class routes thread
As requested.
With the continual reduction in routes offering first class, it may be helpful to have a listing of routes which still have it. This may help some decide between business or first for awards, rtws, etc; as well as assist in route planning. |
Intercontinental and Transcontinental
Watch out for codeshares and some routes have multiple aircraft types operating (with and without first class). Names used for First Class First Class - AA, BA, CX, JL, KA, MH, QF, QR American Airlines Aircraft type All mainline aircraft type, but 757, A300 & MD-80 first class are of poor standard. Note within North & Central America 2-class aircraft are sold as First for USA and Business for Canada, Mexico, Central America and the Caribbean. Only 3-class flights (777-200 and 777-300ER aircraft) are listed below. Warning - 777-200 retrofit configuration does not have first class. Routes Between Chicago O'Hare and Beijing London Heathrow Shanghai Tokyo Narita Between Dallas Fort Worth and Buenos Aires (some flights) Frankfurt (some flights) Hong Kong London Heathrow (some flights) Madrid (seasonal northern summer) Santiago Sao Paulo Seoul Incheon Shanghai Tokyo Narita Between Los Angeles and Buenos Aires London Heathrow Sao Paulo Shanghai Pudong Sydney Tokyo Narita Between Miami and Buenos Aires London Heathrow Los Angeles (some flights) Madrid Santiago (seasonal northern winter) Sao Paulo (some flights) Between New York JFK and Buenos Aires London Heathrow Los Angeles San Francisco (some flights) Sao Paulo Between Raleigh-Durham and London Heathrow (some flights, seasonal) British Airways Aircraft type Only 747, 777 (some) and A380. Routes Between London Heathrow and Abu Dhabi Abuja Austin Bahrain Bangalore Bangkok Beijing Boston Cairo Capetown (some flights) Chicago Dallas Delhi (some flights) Doha Dubai Hong Kong Houston Johannesburg Kuala Lumpur Kuwait Lagos Los Angeles Luanda Mexico City Miami Moscow DME Mumbai Muscat New York JFK Newark (some flights) Philadelphia (some flights) Phoenix Rio de Janiero San Diego San Francisco San Jose SJC Sao Paulo Seattle Seoul Shanghai Singapore Sydney Tel Aviv (some flights) Tokyo NRT Toronto (some flights) Vancouver Washington IAD (some flights) Between London Gatwick and Atlanta (some flights) Bermuda Bridgetown Grenada Port of Spain St Lucia San Jose SJO Tobago Between Abu Dhabi and Muscat Between Bahrain and Doha Between Bridgetown and Port of Spain Tobago Between St Lucia and Grenada Between Singapore and Sydney Cathay Pacific Aircraft type All 747 variants, 777-300ER (some a/c and not non-ER). Routes Between Hong Kong and Bangkok (some flights) Boston Chicago Dusseldorf Frankfurt (some flights) London Heathrow (some flights) Los Angeles Manila (some flights) Milan New York JFK Osaka KIX (some flights) Paris CDG San Francisco Seoul Incheon (some flights, northern summer only) Taipei (some flights) Tokyo HND (some flights) Vancouver Zurich Between Bangkok and Delhi (some flights, irregular) Singapore Between Taipei and Tokyo NRT Between Vancouver and New York JFK Dragonair Aircraft type Only A330. Routes Between Hong Kong and Beijing Kaohsiung Shanghai Taipei Japan Airlines Aircraft type 772 domestic, 773 (not 777) Routes Between Tokyo Haneda and Chitose Fukuoka Okinawa Osaka ITM San Francisco Between Tokyo Narita and Chicago Frankfurt Jakarta (limited flights) London Heathrow Los Angeles New York JFK Paris CDG Sydney (seasonal?) LAN Aircraft type None. Malaysia Airlines Aircraft type All A380. Routes Between Kuala Lumpur and London Heathrow Paris CDG Qantas Aircraft type All A380 (but note some flights sold without first e.g. occasional SYD-HKG). Routes Between Sydney and Dallas Dubai London Heathrow (via Dubai) Los Angeles Between Melbourne and Dubai London Heathrow (via Dubai) Los Angeles Between Dubai and London Heathrow Qatar Aircraft type A380 and ??? Routes Between Doha and Bangkok (some flights) London LHR (some flights) Paris CDG some intra-Middle East routes have 2-class F TAM none Current as at ?. Updated to post #208. Please advise any errors or omissions. Thanks to all those who have contributed. zzz |
Any help in completing this listing, in particular for AA and CX, is greatly appreciated.
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CX- between HKG and:
SFO LAX YVR NRT (some) TPE (some) CDG LHR BKK ADL (some) MNL (some) MEL FCO DXB JNB FRA YYZ BOM KIX (I think) SYD (some) between YVR and: JFK Between BKK and: SIN Between ADL and: MEL |
Originally Posted by rwhite
(Post 9721166)
CX- between HKG and:
DXB (only direct) JNB (seasonal) KIX (currently none) and TPE - NRT (a daily) |
Thanks - keep them coming.
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Thanks for the thread. Which CX flight has F between SYD-HKG?
I think F is also available between SYD and Buenos Aires on QF (when the route starts in Nov). |
Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
(Post 9573818)
Cathay Pacific
Aircraft type All 747 variants, 777-300ER (but not non-ER), A346, some A343, some A333. 744 - F12/J47/Y324 74A - F9/J46/Y324 *new seats 74J - F12/J65/Y268 77A - F6/J57/Y238 *new seats 346 - F8/J60/Y220 34C - F8/J30/Y206 333 - F8/J32/Y211 NB. All 744s and 74Js will undergo 74A conversion. All 346s will leave CX by October 2008. 34C/34D/333 will undergo conversion to new seats but will be two-class only. i.e. 33B and 34B |
In the BA list these flights should be removed:
Calgary Chennai Denver Dhaka Islamabad Kolkata Montreal and Delhi (some flights) should be altered |
Originally Posted by spanishflea
(Post 9722063)
In the BA list these flights should be removed:
Atlanta (selected days IIRC) Bermuda Barbados all others are 3 Class with Club, WT+ and WT cabins. LGW-JFK will have F when it stars. |
Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
(Post 9573818)
Cathay Pacific
Between Taipei and Tokyo NRT (some flights) |
IMHO, for AA the list should only include "all 777 flights" and "all 767-200 flights" (the only planes in the fleet with 3 classes of service) as opposed to "all mainline flights".
I don't think anyone looking at this post is looking to see that a ORD-LGA MD-80 flight has a front cabin sold as F/A (since even those in DONEx products get to book A), as much as true F service offered in 3 class flights. A rough list of those 3 class flights: 767-200 JFK-BDA JFK-LAX JFK-MIA (one flight) JFK-SFO (some flights) 777-200 BOS-LHR BOS-MIA (seasonal--may not come back) BOS-SDQ (Sat. only, seasonal) DFW-FRA DFW-LHR (one flight 767-300 this summer) DFW-MIA (seasonal--may not come back) DFW-ORD JFK-GRU JFK-LHR JFK-NRT LAX-LHR LAX-NRT MIA-DFW (seasonal--may not come back) MIA-GRU (some flights) MIA-LAX (one flight, seasonal) MIA-LHR MIA-EZE ORD-DEL ORD-DFW (one flight) ORD-DME ORD-LHR ORD-NRT ORD-PEK (2009) ORD-PVG RDU-LHR |
You missed DFW-NRT for AA 777-200 First Class service.
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I believe CX also has First on one flight from SIN-HKG (flight 716) which is operated using a 747
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Dragonair offers 3-class service with F on flights using their 11 Airbus 330s.
http://www.dragonair.com/da/en_INTL/...nterior/a330_1 The time table includes available classes but includes CX flights as well. http://downloads.dragonair.com/ka/ti...xtimetable.pdf At quick glance I found flights from HKG to PEK, KHH, PVG, TPE. |
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