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Old Aug 1, 2016, 1:42 pm
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Intercontinental and Transcontinental

Watch out for codeshares and some routes have multiple aircraft types operating (with and without first class).


Names used for First Class
First Class - AA, BA, CX, JL, KA, QF, QR
Some airlines (e.g. BA, QF) also simply brand it as First
Business Suites - MH


American Airlines
Aircraft type
All mainline aircraft type, but 10 Hawaii 757 & MD-80 first class are of poor standard.

Only 20 777-300ER and 17 A321T aircraft with 3 class First are listed below.
(All 777-200ER / 772 have been refitted and have no F cabin.)

Routes
Between Chicago O'Hare and
NONE

Between Dallas Fort Worth and
Hong Kong
London Heathrow (2 of 3 flights)

Between Los Angeles and
Hong Kong (1 flight)
London Heathrow (1 flight)

Between Miami and
Buenos Aires (1 flight)
London Heathrow (1 flight)

Between New York JFK and
London Heathrow (1 flight)
Los Angeles (all flights)
San Francisco (all flights)
Sao Paulo


British Airways
Aircraft type
747, 777 (some), 789 and A380.

Routes
Between London Heathrow and
Abu Dhabi
Abuja
Atlanta
Austin
Bahrain
Bangalore
Beijing
Boston
Cairo
Cape Town
Chicago
Dallas
Delhi (some flights)
Denver
Doha
Dubai
Hong Kong
Houston
Johannesburg
Kuala Lumpur
Kuwait
Lagos
Los Angeles
Luanda
Mexico City
Miami
Moscow DME
Mumbai
Muscat
New York JFK
Newark (some flights)
Philadelphia (some flights)
Phoenix
Santiago SCL
San Diego
San Francisco
San Jose SJC
Sao Paulo
Seattle
Shanghai
Singapore
Sydney
Tel Aviv (some flights)
Tokyo HND
Tokyo NRT
Toronto (some flights)
Vancouver
Washington IAD (some flights)

Between London Gatwick and
Bermuda
Bridgetown
Grenada
Port of Spain
St Lucia
San Jose SJO

Between St Lucia and
Grenada
Port of Spain

Between Singapore and
Sydney


Cathay Pacific
Aircraft type
777-300ER (33 frames out of 53)

Routes
Between Hong Kong and
Boston
Chicago
Frankfurt
Jakarta (some flights May to October 2018)
London Heathrow (some flights)
Los Angeles (some flights)
Milan
New York JFK
Paris CDG (some flights)
San Francisco (some flights)
Tokyo HND (some flights)
Vancouver (some flights)
Zurich

Between Vancouver and
New York JFK


Dragonair
Aircraft type
A330 (some flights only)

Routes
Between Hong Kong and
Beijing
Kaohsiung
Shanghai
Taipei


Japan Airlines
Aircraft type
domestic 772 (W15/W16) 14 seats (2-2-2)
domestic 763 (A25) 5 seats (2-1-2)
international 773 (W84) 8 seats (1-2-1)

Routes
Between Tokyo Haneda and
Chitose
Fukuoka
Okinawa
Osaka ITM
London Heathrow
New York JFK
Paris CDG
San Francisco

Between Tokyo Narita and
Chicago
Los Angeles
New York JFK


LATAM
None


Malaysia Airlines
Aircraft type
A380

Routes
Between Kuala Lumpur and
London Heathrow


Qantas
Aircraft type
A380 (but some flights sold without F e.g. occasional SYD-HKG)

Routes
Between Sydney and
Dallas
Hong Kong (some flights)
London Heathrow (via Singapore)
Los Angeles

Between Melbourne and
Los Angeles (QF93/94 only)
Singapore

Between Singapore and
London Heathrow


Qatar
Aircraft type
A330 (only one), A380

Routes
Between Doha and
Bangkok (seasonal, some flights)
London LHR (some flights)
Guangzhou
Melbourne (seasonal - Northern Winter)
Paris CDG (1 flight/day)
Sydney (seasonal - Northern Winter)
some intra-Middle East routes have 2-class F (J seat, J food and J wine sold as F)


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Old Feb 15, 2013, 4:40 pm
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A380 F will also fly between KUL and HKG from 1st May 2013.
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 4:46 am
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A380 F will also fly between KUL and HKG from 1st May 2013.
Will they actually sell F?
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 8:13 am
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Will they actually sell F?
Yes. Why not? Flagship A380 flight!
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 8:32 am
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Yes. Why not? Flagship A380 flight!
Is it codeshard with CX as CX doesn't operate F to KUL normally?
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 8:49 am
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Is it codeshard with CX as CX doesn't operate F to KUL normally?
Its a MH plane.
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 12:31 am
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YEAH but CX flies on that route

also I think CX is more of a competitor and will not codeshare with MH

whenever A380 flights launched to HK CX has increased frequency to offer cheaper seats

ex sin-form 7 to 10 daily

ex ICN from 5-6 daily

KL-3-4 DAILY

yeah so no regional first codeshare

there is one for business and economy though

although CX flies its 777 daily to KL with better business seats than MH A380 and arguably a better First Seat
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 1:25 am
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Not sure if it's been said before but at least on some days FRA-DFW-FRA on AA has First Class.
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 7:15 am
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Originally Posted by Kachjc
although CX flies its 777 daily to KL with better business seats than MH A380 and arguably a better First Seat
Quite strongly said CX have better F seats than MH. I agree CX have one of the best F seats on the market and I haven't yet flown on MH First but expectations of A380 seats are very high. Pictures and specs of MH are also good. Waiting for the first MH F A380 trip report to be published.
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Old Jul 1, 2013, 12:16 pm
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Oneworld First Class

How about Air Berlin, Finnair, El Al code share with AA, and all code shares with Oneworld airlines?
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Old Jul 1, 2013, 4:12 pm
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Originally Posted by longhorns
How about Air Berlin, Finnair, El Al code share with AA, and all code shares with Oneworld airlines?
This thread is only about first class on Oneworld carriers, not partners. Neither Finnair nor Air Berlin offer first class, and El Al is not a Oneworld member.

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Old Aug 3, 2013, 9:02 am
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Im booked on BA F next week DME-LHR.
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Old Aug 19, 2013, 6:54 am
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Booking a OW RTW award (35K for 280K in F) from BOS. We want to get the best F experience we can. Should we go BOS-JFK-HKG in CX over water? What other F routes would be good? Did I mention we're also open to our destinations...? I also noticed that MH will fly the A380 in between KUL and HKG from 1st May 2013. We're going in mid-late May.

Advice, suggestions?
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Old Aug 19, 2013, 8:41 am
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Originally Posted by tennisboy
Booking a OW RTW award (35K for 280K in F) from BOS. We want to get the best F experience we can. Should we go BOS-JFK-HKG in CX over water? What other F routes would be good? Did I mention we're also open to our destinations...? I also noticed that MH will fly the A380 in between KUL and HKG from 1st May 2013. We're going in mid-late May.

Advice, suggestions?
At the risk of sounding flip, find a different award. RT BOS-HKG in F is only 135K AA miles. You're paying more than double that. In other words, you could have two two roundtrips for what you're paying for one, and still in F. You may want to rethink this one, especially if you're flexible on destination(s). You haven't posted your whole itinerary, but I have to believe that there's a cheaper way.
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Old Aug 19, 2013, 8:51 am
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Really? I'm thinking something like this:

BOS-JFK-HKG-NRT-PEK-BKK-HKT-CMB-SIN-SYD-AKL-SCL-EZE-SCL-GIG-JFK-BOS or similar, for example leaving out South America and adding more Asian routes like Bora Bora, Bali, Hat Yai, etc...
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Old Aug 19, 2013, 9:07 am
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We want to leave from Boston, take the best F class to Asia, and visit HKG, NRT, PVG, PEK, PHT, SIN, CMB, KUL, PEN, and open to SGN or other key food, tourist, and relaxation spots.

Bonus if we could visit Bali, Papua New Guinea, Bora Bora, or anywhere else in the South Pacific. Sri Lanka and Male would be fun too.

We need to use the RTW OW award, under 35K miles shown, in F.

Last edited by tennisboy; Aug 19, 2013 at 9:08 am Reason: added SRI LANKA AND MALE
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