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Old Aug 1, 2016, 1:42 pm
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Intercontinental and Transcontinental

Watch out for codeshares and some routes have multiple aircraft types operating (with and without first class).


Names used for First Class
First Class - AA, BA, CX, JL, KA, QF, QR
Some airlines (e.g. BA, QF) also simply brand it as First
Business Suites - MH


American Airlines
Aircraft type
All mainline aircraft type, but 10 Hawaii 757 & MD-80 first class are of poor standard.

Only 20 777-300ER and 17 A321T aircraft with 3 class First are listed below.
(All 777-200ER / 772 have been refitted and have no F cabin.)

Routes
Between Chicago O'Hare and
NONE

Between Dallas Fort Worth and
Hong Kong
London Heathrow (2 of 3 flights)

Between Los Angeles and
Hong Kong (1 flight)
London Heathrow (1 flight)

Between Miami and
Buenos Aires (1 flight)
London Heathrow (1 flight)

Between New York JFK and
London Heathrow (1 flight)
Los Angeles (all flights)
San Francisco (all flights)
Sao Paulo


British Airways
Aircraft type
747, 777 (some), 789 and A380.

Routes
Between London Heathrow and
Abu Dhabi
Abuja
Atlanta
Austin
Bahrain
Bangalore
Beijing
Boston
Cairo
Cape Town
Chicago
Dallas
Delhi (some flights)
Denver
Doha
Dubai
Hong Kong
Houston
Johannesburg
Kuala Lumpur
Kuwait
Lagos
Los Angeles
Luanda
Mexico City
Miami
Moscow DME
Mumbai
Muscat
New York JFK
Newark (some flights)
Philadelphia (some flights)
Phoenix
Santiago SCL
San Diego
San Francisco
San Jose SJC
Sao Paulo
Seattle
Shanghai
Singapore
Sydney
Tel Aviv (some flights)
Tokyo HND
Tokyo NRT
Toronto (some flights)
Vancouver
Washington IAD (some flights)

Between London Gatwick and
Bermuda
Bridgetown
Grenada
Port of Spain
St Lucia
San Jose SJO

Between St Lucia and
Grenada
Port of Spain

Between Singapore and
Sydney


Cathay Pacific
Aircraft type
777-300ER (33 frames out of 53)

Routes
Between Hong Kong and
Boston
Chicago
Frankfurt
Jakarta (some flights May to October 2018)
London Heathrow (some flights)
Los Angeles (some flights)
Milan
New York JFK
Paris CDG (some flights)
San Francisco (some flights)
Tokyo HND (some flights)
Vancouver (some flights)
Zurich

Between Vancouver and
New York JFK


Dragonair
Aircraft type
A330 (some flights only)

Routes
Between Hong Kong and
Beijing
Kaohsiung
Shanghai
Taipei


Japan Airlines
Aircraft type
domestic 772 (W15/W16) 14 seats (2-2-2)
domestic 763 (A25) 5 seats (2-1-2)
international 773 (W84) 8 seats (1-2-1)

Routes
Between Tokyo Haneda and
Chitose
Fukuoka
Okinawa
Osaka ITM
London Heathrow
New York JFK
Paris CDG
San Francisco

Between Tokyo Narita and
Chicago
Los Angeles
New York JFK


LATAM
None


Malaysia Airlines
Aircraft type
A380

Routes
Between Kuala Lumpur and
London Heathrow


Qantas
Aircraft type
A380 (but some flights sold without F e.g. occasional SYD-HKG)

Routes
Between Sydney and
Dallas
Hong Kong (some flights)
London Heathrow (via Singapore)
Los Angeles

Between Melbourne and
Los Angeles (QF93/94 only)
Singapore

Between Singapore and
London Heathrow


Qatar
Aircraft type
A330 (only one), A380

Routes
Between Doha and
Bangkok (seasonal, some flights)
London LHR (some flights)
Guangzhou
Melbourne (seasonal - Northern Winter)
Paris CDG (1 flight/day)
Sydney (seasonal - Northern Winter)
some intra-Middle East routes have 2-class F (J seat, J food and J wine sold as F)


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Old Jun 21, 2015, 4:33 pm
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Originally Posted by CMK10
AA is running a three class 777-200 on RDU-LHR this summer
That route is underwritten by a bunch of software companies isn't it? I am surprised it's only two class normally
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Old Jun 21, 2015, 5:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Calchas
That route is underwritten by a bunch of software companies isn't it? I am surprised it's only two class normally
Pharmaceutical companies... Glaxo I think, maybe more.
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Old Jun 21, 2015, 5:54 pm
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Originally Posted by 110pgl
Pharmaceutical companies... Glaxo I think, maybe more.
! If it's underwritten by pharma it may as well be all-F
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Old Jun 21, 2015, 8:08 pm
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Originally Posted by Calchas
That route is underwritten by a bunch of software companies isn't it? I am surprised it's only two class normally
From what I understand, the subsidies the pharma companies were giving the route have long since tried up. The 777 is being used while the usual 767-300s that fly the route are being retrofitted with the new AA Business seat
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Old Jun 21, 2015, 8:23 pm
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Originally Posted by CMK10
From what I understand, the subsidies the pharma companies were giving the route have long since tried up. The 777 is being used while the usual 767-300s that fly the route are being retrofitted with the new AA Business seat
^ Interesting.
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Old Jun 21, 2015, 8:40 pm
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Originally Posted by CMK10
From what I understand, the subsidies the pharma companies were giving the route have long since tried up. The 777 is being used while the usual 767-300s that fly the route are being retrofitted with the new AA Business seat
I think the AA one still exists. There are many FT references that Research Triangle Regional Partnership guarantee's x seats per flight. But, because the agreement is confidential, no one knows for sure.

As for the airplane type, the 777 has made numerous appearances during the summer months. (That does not discount the 767-300 retrofit or being returned to this route in the fall.)
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Old Jun 26, 2015, 1:41 am
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Originally Posted by jubbing
…why is everyone saying Etihad First Class Champagne sucks?
Not in my experience. And they usually have a bottle or two of something special that's not on the menu, if you know to ask for it
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Old Aug 2, 2015, 12:04 pm
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Please update to add CX HKG/BOS.
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Old Aug 3, 2015, 1:13 am
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Originally Posted by Dr. HFH
Please update to add CX HKG/BOS.
Done. OP is updated to here.
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Old Aug 12, 2015, 12:09 pm
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Please add JL SFO/HND

Edit:
Several of the JL routes are out of date. There is no longer F from NRT/JKT. See here for the current routes https://www.jal.co.jp/en/inflight/inter/rosen/

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Old Sep 6, 2015, 12:32 am
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JL NRT/CGK has no F service. Currently served with a mixture of 767, 787, 788 and 789. F service resumes on October 25 with 1×daily 77W.
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Old Sep 6, 2015, 1:19 am
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Two new routes announced by BA both to places called "San Jose"

LHR-SJC-LHR will have F on BA from 04 May 2016 as BA 279/278 (op by 789)
LGW-SJO-LGW will have F on BA from 04 May 2016 as BA 2237/2236 (op by 777)

BA provide the following advice to avoid confusion
In order to cut down confusion between the two new BA destinations, please always use the terms “San Jose - California” or “San Jose - Costa Rica” when speaking with a customer.
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Old Nov 29, 2015, 7:15 am
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CX now has F class to DUS, please update...
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Old Nov 29, 2015, 7:18 am
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I'm checking btw the whole month of December and January, and cannot find ANY BA flight LHR-TLV that offers F Class...
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Old Nov 29, 2015, 7:22 am
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While were busy, CX doesn't offer F Class to Amsterdam, at all...
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