Aug 1, 2016, 1:42 pm
Last edit by: Kiwi Flyer
Intercontinental and Transcontinental
Watch out for codeshares and some routes have multiple aircraft types operating (with and without first class).
Names used for First Class
First Class - AA, BA, CX, JL, KA, QF, QR
Some airlines (e.g. BA, QF) also simply brand it as First
Business Suites - MH
American Airlines
Aircraft type
All mainline aircraft type, but 10 Hawaii 757 & MD-80 first class are of poor standard.
Only 20 777-300ER and 17 A321T aircraft with 3 class First are listed below.
(All 777-200ER / 772 have been refitted and have no F cabin.)
Routes
Between Chicago O'Hare and
NONE
Between Dallas Fort Worth and
Hong Kong
London Heathrow (2 of 3 flights)
Between Los Angeles and
Hong Kong (1 flight)
London Heathrow (1 flight)
Between Miami and
Buenos Aires (1 flight)
London Heathrow (1 flight)
Between New York JFK and
London Heathrow (1 flight)
Los Angeles (all flights)
San Francisco (all flights)
Sao Paulo
British Airways
Aircraft type
747, 777 (some), 789 and A380.
Routes
Between London Heathrow and
Abu Dhabi
Abuja
Atlanta
Austin
Bahrain
Bangalore
Beijing
Boston
Cairo
Cape Town
Chicago
Dallas
Delhi (some flights)
Denver
Doha
Dubai
Hong Kong
Houston
Johannesburg
Kuala Lumpur
Kuwait
Lagos
Los Angeles
Luanda
Mexico City
Miami
Moscow DME
Mumbai
Muscat
New York JFK
Newark (some flights)
Philadelphia (some flights)
Phoenix
Santiago SCL
San Diego
San Francisco
San Jose SJC
Sao Paulo
Seattle
Shanghai
Singapore
Sydney
Tel Aviv (some flights)
Tokyo HND
Tokyo NRT
Toronto (some flights)
Vancouver
Washington IAD (some flights)
Between London Gatwick and
Bermuda
Bridgetown
Grenada
Port of Spain
St Lucia
San Jose SJO
Between St Lucia and
Grenada
Port of Spain
Between Singapore and
Sydney
Cathay Pacific
Aircraft type
777-300ER (33 frames out of 53)
Routes
Between Hong Kong and
Boston
Chicago
Frankfurt
Jakarta (some flights May to October 2018)
London Heathrow (some flights)
Los Angeles (some flights)
Milan
New York JFK
Paris CDG (some flights)
San Francisco (some flights)
Tokyo HND (some flights)
Vancouver (some flights)
Zurich
Between Vancouver and
New York JFK
Dragonair
Aircraft type
A330 (some flights only)
Routes
Between Hong Kong and
Beijing
Kaohsiung
Shanghai
Taipei
Japan Airlines
Aircraft type
domestic 772 (W15/W16) 14 seats (2-2-2)
domestic 763 (A25) 5 seats (2-1-2)
international 773 (W84) 8 seats (1-2-1)
Routes
Between Tokyo Haneda and
Chitose
Fukuoka
Okinawa
Osaka ITM
London Heathrow
New York JFK
Paris CDG
San Francisco
Between Tokyo Narita and
Chicago
Los Angeles
New York JFK
LATAM
None
Malaysia Airlines
Aircraft type
A380
Routes
Between Kuala Lumpur and
London Heathrow
Qantas
Aircraft type
A380 (but some flights sold without F e.g. occasional SYD-HKG)
Routes
Between Sydney and
Dallas
Hong Kong (some flights)
London Heathrow (via Singapore)
Los Angeles
Between Melbourne and
Los Angeles (QF93/94 only)
Singapore
Between Singapore and
London Heathrow
Qatar
Aircraft type
A330 (only one), A380
Routes
Between Doha and
Bangkok (seasonal, some flights)
London LHR (some flights)
Guangzhou
Melbourne (seasonal - Northern Winter)
Paris CDG (1 flight/day)
Sydney (seasonal - Northern Winter)
some intra-Middle East routes have 2-class F (J seat, J food and J wine sold as F)
Last updated: 14APR2018
Updated to post: 235
Updated AA flights 24APR2018
Watch out for codeshares and some routes have multiple aircraft types operating (with and without first class).
Names used for First Class
First Class - AA, BA, CX, JL, KA, QF, QR
Some airlines (e.g. BA, QF) also simply brand it as First
Business Suites - MH
American Airlines
Aircraft type
All mainline aircraft type, but 10 Hawaii 757 & MD-80 first class are of poor standard.
Only 20 777-300ER and 17 A321T aircraft with 3 class First are listed below.
(All 777-200ER / 772 have been refitted and have no F cabin.)
Routes
Between Chicago O'Hare and
NONE
Between Dallas Fort Worth and
Hong Kong
London Heathrow (2 of 3 flights)
Between Los Angeles and
Hong Kong (1 flight)
London Heathrow (1 flight)
Between Miami and
Buenos Aires (1 flight)
London Heathrow (1 flight)
Between New York JFK and
London Heathrow (1 flight)
Los Angeles (all flights)
San Francisco (all flights)
Sao Paulo
British Airways
Aircraft type
747, 777 (some), 789 and A380.
Routes
Between London Heathrow and
Abu Dhabi
Abuja
Atlanta
Austin
Bahrain
Bangalore
Beijing
Boston
Cairo
Cape Town
Chicago
Dallas
Delhi (some flights)
Denver
Doha
Dubai
Hong Kong
Houston
Johannesburg
Kuala Lumpur
Kuwait
Lagos
Los Angeles
Luanda
Mexico City
Miami
Moscow DME
Mumbai
Muscat
New York JFK
Newark (some flights)
Philadelphia (some flights)
Phoenix
Santiago SCL
San Diego
San Francisco
San Jose SJC
Sao Paulo
Seattle
Shanghai
Singapore
Sydney
Tel Aviv (some flights)
Tokyo HND
Tokyo NRT
Toronto (some flights)
Vancouver
Washington IAD (some flights)
Between London Gatwick and
Bermuda
Bridgetown
Grenada
Port of Spain
St Lucia
San Jose SJO
Between St Lucia and
Grenada
Port of Spain
Between Singapore and
Sydney
Cathay Pacific
Aircraft type
777-300ER (33 frames out of 53)
Routes
Between Hong Kong and
Boston
Chicago
Frankfurt
Jakarta (some flights May to October 2018)
London Heathrow (some flights)
Los Angeles (some flights)
Milan
New York JFK
Paris CDG (some flights)
San Francisco (some flights)
Tokyo HND (some flights)
Vancouver (some flights)
Zurich
Between Vancouver and
New York JFK
Dragonair
Aircraft type
A330 (some flights only)
Routes
Between Hong Kong and
Beijing
Kaohsiung
Shanghai
Taipei
Japan Airlines
Aircraft type
domestic 772 (W15/W16) 14 seats (2-2-2)
domestic 763 (A25) 5 seats (2-1-2)
international 773 (W84) 8 seats (1-2-1)
Routes
Between Tokyo Haneda and
Chitose
Fukuoka
Okinawa
Osaka ITM
London Heathrow
New York JFK
Paris CDG
San Francisco
Between Tokyo Narita and
Chicago
Los Angeles
New York JFK
LATAM
None
Malaysia Airlines
Aircraft type
A380
Routes
Between Kuala Lumpur and
London Heathrow
Qantas
Aircraft type
A380 (but some flights sold without F e.g. occasional SYD-HKG)
Routes
Between Sydney and
Dallas
Hong Kong (some flights)
London Heathrow (via Singapore)
Los Angeles
Between Melbourne and
Los Angeles (QF93/94 only)
Singapore
Between Singapore and
London Heathrow
Qatar
Aircraft type
A330 (only one), A380
Routes
Between Doha and
Bangkok (seasonal, some flights)
London LHR (some flights)
Guangzhou
Melbourne (seasonal - Northern Winter)
Paris CDG (1 flight/day)
Sydney (seasonal - Northern Winter)
some intra-Middle East routes have 2-class F (J seat, J food and J wine sold as F)
Last updated: 14APR2018
Updated to post: 235
Updated AA flights 24APR2018
OW first class routes thread
Jan 9, 2015, 8:08 am
#153
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 2,637
I know that it has been a while since an update to the original list, but it does need cleaning up.
I checked some of CX and AA routes, and there is no F on CX to Jakarta, Jo'berg, Singapore, & Tokyo (NRT). The F flights to Bangkok, Seoul, Osaka are very irregular. I believe that AA is dropping all of the seasonal F service from DFW/MIA to MAD and using the revamped 77D configuration. And now that all of the TCON A321 are in service, all of the JFK-SFO flights have F. AA dropped the JFK-TYO flight as well.
One can also remove all of the TAM info since they dropped 1st class. There may be other changes.
I checked some of CX and AA routes, and there is no F on CX to Jakarta, Jo'berg, Singapore, & Tokyo (NRT). The F flights to Bangkok, Seoul, Osaka are very irregular. I believe that AA is dropping all of the seasonal F service from DFW/MIA to MAD and using the revamped 77D configuration. And now that all of the TCON A321 are in service, all of the JFK-SFO flights have F. AA dropped the JFK-TYO flight as well.
One can also remove all of the TAM info since they dropped 1st class. There may be other changes.
Mar 18, 2015, 4:42 pm
#155
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Mar 25, 2015, 8:07 am
#156
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There are plenty of F seats available on HND-CTS -- just not on every flight. Try searching on JL's website for the dates you're interested in.
Jun 11, 2015, 9:22 am
#159
Join Date: Jan 1999
Location: USA
Posts: 224
Actually, Cathay flies First Class on a limited set of flights from HKG-BKK and HKG-SIN. Look for the 77W and 744. If you book it in advance you'll want to keep an eye on the aircraft as I've seen it change many times in the past.
Jun 11, 2015, 1:21 pm
#160
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Location: Global
Posts: 5,994
But, I believe you are right.... there is one flight a day with Prem. Economy, which I am guessing is the 77W.
Jun 11, 2015, 11:18 pm
#161
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Posts: 1,580
77W/77D doesn't have first class (3 classes with PY)
333/33G C,PY,Y
Don't expect too much
Jun 14, 2015, 12:59 am
#163
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 7,875
Yea, CX does fly first occ to BKK and SIN. I was looking using avios. The whole weekend there was one flight to SIN with first. Don't know why there are so many to TPE when it is so short, and junky business seats to SIN (not lie-flat)
Jun 14, 2015, 4:12 am
#164
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Unlikely to see any 744s on this route any more, of course. Also, even with 773 aircraft with F cabins, often they are not sold on this route. DMs can often sit in the F cabin, though, but it's J food and service.
Last edited by Dr. HFH; Jun 14, 2015 at 4:23 am
Jun 15, 2015, 1:18 pm
#165
Join Date: Jan 1999
Location: USA
Posts: 224
Please update your OneWorld First Routes post to include the
Please update the AA language "Only 3-class flights (777 and 767-200 aircraft) are listed below." as they no longer fly the 767-200 with First. It can just read:
- AA DFW-SCL
- AA DFW-PVG
- AA DFW-MAD (summer seasonal)
- AA MIA-MAD
- AA MIA-SCL (winter seasonal)
- AA LAX-GRU
- AA LAX-EZE
- QR DOH-BKK
Please update the AA language "Only 3-class flights (777 and 767-200 aircraft) are listed below." as they no longer fly the 767-200 with First. It can just read:
Only International Flagship First Class is only offered on the 777-200 and 777-300ER aircraft. Note: The "777-200 Retrofit" does not have First Class.
Also, Malaysia Airlines can be updated to "none" since they just sold off their entire A380s which was the only routes with widebody first class.