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Old Aug 1, 2016, 1:42 pm
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Intercontinental and Transcontinental

Watch out for codeshares and some routes have multiple aircraft types operating (with and without first class).


Names used for First Class
First Class - AA, BA, CX, JL, KA, QF, QR
Some airlines (e.g. BA, QF) also simply brand it as First
Business Suites - MH


American Airlines
Aircraft type
All mainline aircraft type, but 10 Hawaii 757 & MD-80 first class are of poor standard.

Only 20 777-300ER and 17 A321T aircraft with 3 class First are listed below.
(All 777-200ER / 772 have been refitted and have no F cabin.)

Routes
Between Chicago O'Hare and
NONE

Between Dallas Fort Worth and
Hong Kong
London Heathrow (2 of 3 flights)

Between Los Angeles and
Hong Kong (1 flight)
London Heathrow (1 flight)

Between Miami and
Buenos Aires (1 flight)
London Heathrow (1 flight)

Between New York JFK and
London Heathrow (1 flight)
Los Angeles (all flights)
San Francisco (all flights)
Sao Paulo


British Airways
Aircraft type
747, 777 (some), 789 and A380.

Routes
Between London Heathrow and
Abu Dhabi
Abuja
Atlanta
Austin
Bahrain
Bangalore
Beijing
Boston
Cairo
Cape Town
Chicago
Dallas
Delhi (some flights)
Denver
Doha
Dubai
Hong Kong
Houston
Johannesburg
Kuala Lumpur
Kuwait
Lagos
Los Angeles
Luanda
Mexico City
Miami
Moscow DME
Mumbai
Muscat
New York JFK
Newark (some flights)
Philadelphia (some flights)
Phoenix
Santiago SCL
San Diego
San Francisco
San Jose SJC
Sao Paulo
Seattle
Shanghai
Singapore
Sydney
Tel Aviv (some flights)
Tokyo HND
Tokyo NRT
Toronto (some flights)
Vancouver
Washington IAD (some flights)

Between London Gatwick and
Bermuda
Bridgetown
Grenada
Port of Spain
St Lucia
San Jose SJO

Between St Lucia and
Grenada
Port of Spain

Between Singapore and
Sydney


Cathay Pacific
Aircraft type
777-300ER (33 frames out of 53)

Routes
Between Hong Kong and
Boston
Chicago
Frankfurt
Jakarta (some flights May to October 2018)
London Heathrow (some flights)
Los Angeles (some flights)
Milan
New York JFK
Paris CDG (some flights)
San Francisco (some flights)
Tokyo HND (some flights)
Vancouver (some flights)
Zurich

Between Vancouver and
New York JFK


Dragonair
Aircraft type
A330 (some flights only)

Routes
Between Hong Kong and
Beijing
Kaohsiung
Shanghai
Taipei


Japan Airlines
Aircraft type
domestic 772 (W15/W16) 14 seats (2-2-2)
domestic 763 (A25) 5 seats (2-1-2)
international 773 (W84) 8 seats (1-2-1)

Routes
Between Tokyo Haneda and
Chitose
Fukuoka
Okinawa
Osaka ITM
London Heathrow
New York JFK
Paris CDG
San Francisco

Between Tokyo Narita and
Chicago
Los Angeles
New York JFK


LATAM
None


Malaysia Airlines
Aircraft type
A380

Routes
Between Kuala Lumpur and
London Heathrow


Qantas
Aircraft type
A380 (but some flights sold without F e.g. occasional SYD-HKG)

Routes
Between Sydney and
Dallas
Hong Kong (some flights)
London Heathrow (via Singapore)
Los Angeles

Between Melbourne and
Los Angeles (QF93/94 only)
Singapore

Between Singapore and
London Heathrow


Qatar
Aircraft type
A330 (only one), A380

Routes
Between Doha and
Bangkok (seasonal, some flights)
London LHR (some flights)
Guangzhou
Melbourne (seasonal - Northern Winter)
Paris CDG (1 flight/day)
Sydney (seasonal - Northern Winter)
some intra-Middle East routes have 2-class F (J seat, J food and J wine sold as F)


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Old Dec 23, 2008, 3:09 pm
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Old Dec 30, 2008, 12:43 pm
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Originally Posted by Bukhara
BA did not have traffic rights for this route. Some stuff about cabotage by being a foreign carrier which is not permitted to operate domestic flights within Brazil.

....although the Rio flight now no longer operates with the F cabin.
You're right. So on the main post, for BA there is no longer any First on LHR-GIG and the line relating to GIG-GRU needs to be dropped as well, although GRU <> EZE stays.
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Old Dec 30, 2008, 4:26 pm
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no more ba first between lhr and nairobi

i am booked on ba between lhr and nairobi in first next september on the final leg of my aone6and mindpearl in cape town sent me an email yesterday that the flight has now been downgraded to two class service (apparently on a 767) and now only offers biz class.
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Old Dec 30, 2008, 11:37 pm
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Originally Posted by alemdohorizonte
i am booked on ba between lhr and nairobi in first next september on the final leg of my aone6and mindpearl in cape town sent me an email yesterday that the flight has now been downgraded to two class service (apparently on a 767) and now only offers biz class.
The timetables and GDS systems are still saying it's a 777, but that could clearly change. The first class service appears to be dropped from August 14th. onwards.
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Old Dec 31, 2008, 12:29 am
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CX flights to Oz

AFAICS, CX First flights between HKG & MEL are only currently "some flights". These will cease at the end of January but restart end October.

There no longer appears to be any First on CX between HKG & SYD.

Edited to add:

You don't seem to be able to purchase First on CX just between MEL & ADL, but CX105/104 provides First between HKG & ADL (via MEL) in the Northern winter (i.e. not between end-Jan & end-Oct 2009.)

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Old Dec 31, 2008, 1:49 am
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Great info Kiwi Flyer. Some amendments:
  • JL offers F NRT-DEL
  • LA now only offers F on its SCL-MAD/FRA route, so SYD/AKL-SCL should be removed from the current list
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Old Dec 31, 2008, 5:00 am
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For AA, add: DFW-GRU and MIA-MAD
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Old Mar 22, 2009, 10:09 am
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Originally Posted by virtualtroy
Great info Kiwi Flyer. Some amendments:
  • JL offers F NRT-DEL
  • LA now only offers F on its SCL-MAD/FRA route, so SYD/AKL-SCL should be removed from the current list
It looks as though F has gone from SCL-MAD now that LA has completed, or is close to completing, the refurb of the A340s.
It's getting harder and harder to justify AONEx over DONEx.

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Old Mar 22, 2009, 4:24 pm
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Originally Posted by NDFan
It's getting harder and harder to justify AONEx over DONEx.
Yeah, seems like in the not-too-distant future it will only make sense with an all-hub itinerary like LHR-MIA-EZE-SYD-NRT-HKG-LHR.

The upside is that the J products are getting better and better over time across OW, no? Hope so because I'm planning an RTW OW130C for 2010.
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Old Mar 22, 2009, 5:05 pm
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Originally Posted by B-HXB

CX:
Amend Johannesburg: JNB now has year-round F service, with the 346 in NH summer and back to the 744 in NH winter (unsure what will happen in NH summer 09 when the 346's are returned)
Amendment to the Amendment: JNB has year-round F service sort of. Currently served by 343s every day, with F only on the Tuesday outbound from HKG and the Wednesday return from JNB (same aircraft, obviously). NH winter 2008-2009 saw 744 service 3-4 times/week (I can't remember exactly), with no F service on the remaining (343) days.
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Originally Posted by Hagbard Viking
For AA, add: DFW-GRU and MIA-MAD
In addition, ORD-DME should be removed.
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Old Jun 29, 2009, 8:46 am
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CX HKG-BOM can be removed again
CX HKG-BKK should be (some flights) [less than 1 per day]
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Old Jun 29, 2009, 11:58 am
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Originally Posted by Hagbard Viking
For AA, add: DFW-GRU and MIA-MAD
giveth and taketh away:

MIA-MAD goes back to 763 (J and Y only) starting 26 Aug 2009
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BA LHR-CPT is now some flights too.

The seasonal flights BA42/43 won't have F this (southern hemisphere) summer.
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Thanks everyone. OP is updated to here.
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