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Old Aug 1, 2016, 1:42 pm
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Intercontinental and Transcontinental

Watch out for codeshares and some routes have multiple aircraft types operating (with and without first class).


Names used for First Class
First Class - AA, BA, CX, JL, KA, QF, QR
Some airlines (e.g. BA, QF) also simply brand it as First
Business Suites - MH


American Airlines
Aircraft type
All mainline aircraft type, but 10 Hawaii 757 & MD-80 first class are of poor standard.

Only 20 777-300ER and 17 A321T aircraft with 3 class First are listed below.
(All 777-200ER / 772 have been refitted and have no F cabin.)

Routes
Between Chicago O'Hare and
NONE

Between Dallas Fort Worth and
Hong Kong
London Heathrow (2 of 3 flights)

Between Los Angeles and
Hong Kong (1 flight)
London Heathrow (1 flight)

Between Miami and
Buenos Aires (1 flight)
London Heathrow (1 flight)

Between New York JFK and
London Heathrow (1 flight)
Los Angeles (all flights)
San Francisco (all flights)
Sao Paulo


British Airways
Aircraft type
747, 777 (some), 789 and A380.

Routes
Between London Heathrow and
Abu Dhabi
Abuja
Atlanta
Austin
Bahrain
Bangalore
Beijing
Boston
Cairo
Cape Town
Chicago
Dallas
Delhi (some flights)
Denver
Doha
Dubai
Hong Kong
Houston
Johannesburg
Kuala Lumpur
Kuwait
Lagos
Los Angeles
Luanda
Mexico City
Miami
Moscow DME
Mumbai
Muscat
New York JFK
Newark (some flights)
Philadelphia (some flights)
Phoenix
Santiago SCL
San Diego
San Francisco
San Jose SJC
Sao Paulo
Seattle
Shanghai
Singapore
Sydney
Tel Aviv (some flights)
Tokyo HND
Tokyo NRT
Toronto (some flights)
Vancouver
Washington IAD (some flights)

Between London Gatwick and
Bermuda
Bridgetown
Grenada
Port of Spain
St Lucia
San Jose SJO

Between St Lucia and
Grenada
Port of Spain

Between Singapore and
Sydney


Cathay Pacific
Aircraft type
777-300ER (33 frames out of 53)

Routes
Between Hong Kong and
Boston
Chicago
Frankfurt
Jakarta (some flights May to October 2018)
London Heathrow (some flights)
Los Angeles (some flights)
Milan
New York JFK
Paris CDG (some flights)
San Francisco (some flights)
Tokyo HND (some flights)
Vancouver (some flights)
Zurich

Between Vancouver and
New York JFK


Dragonair
Aircraft type
A330 (some flights only)

Routes
Between Hong Kong and
Beijing
Kaohsiung
Shanghai
Taipei


Japan Airlines
Aircraft type
domestic 772 (W15/W16) 14 seats (2-2-2)
domestic 763 (A25) 5 seats (2-1-2)
international 773 (W84) 8 seats (1-2-1)

Routes
Between Tokyo Haneda and
Chitose
Fukuoka
Okinawa
Osaka ITM
London Heathrow
New York JFK
Paris CDG
San Francisco

Between Tokyo Narita and
Chicago
Los Angeles
New York JFK


LATAM
None


Malaysia Airlines
Aircraft type
A380

Routes
Between Kuala Lumpur and
London Heathrow


Qantas
Aircraft type
A380 (but some flights sold without F e.g. occasional SYD-HKG)

Routes
Between Sydney and
Dallas
Hong Kong (some flights)
London Heathrow (via Singapore)
Los Angeles

Between Melbourne and
Los Angeles (QF93/94 only)
Singapore

Between Singapore and
London Heathrow


Qatar
Aircraft type
A330 (only one), A380

Routes
Between Doha and
Bangkok (seasonal, some flights)
London LHR (some flights)
Guangzhou
Melbourne (seasonal - Northern Winter)
Paris CDG (1 flight/day)
Sydney (seasonal - Northern Winter)
some intra-Middle East routes have 2-class F (J seat, J food and J wine sold as F)


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Old Sep 25, 2013, 1:31 am
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Originally Posted by skunker
I don't think domestic sub-1,000 mile flights would be a good use of a segment. Actually 2 segments since you would have to go back to HND.
Perhaps not, but these routes could be extremely useful for those earning status in programs such as Qantas Frequent Flyer, where short F or J sectors can be good earners, depending on cost.
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Old Sep 25, 2013, 12:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Tech Noir
Perhaps not, but these routes could be extremely useful for those earning status in programs such as Qantas Frequent Flyer, where short F or J sectors can be good earners, depending on cost.
HND-ITM is 249 miles. You better REALLY need some points to use that on a AONE.
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Old Sep 25, 2013, 4:01 pm
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Originally Posted by Tech Noir
Perhaps not, but these routes could be extremely useful for those earning status in programs such as Qantas Frequent Flyer, where short F or J sectors can be good earners, depending on cost.
Originally Posted by skunker
HND-ITM is 249 miles. You better REALLY need some points to use that on a AONE.
One final caution to keep this thread on-topic. Please refer to FT's Guidelines and Rules, specifically the sections regarding disciplinary actions.
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Old Sep 26, 2013, 8:53 am
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Originally Posted by tennisboy
Looking around for F flights on OW, can't seem to find anything between PEK and NRT.

Can folks help me find the best F flights if I want to go to these cities?

BOS-HKG-NRT-PEK-PNH-HTY-BOS

I want to keep BOS-HKG bc I can take CX via JFK. But the rest I'm not so picky about. Suggestions?
Not much intra-Asia F. HKGTPE and HKG-HND are your best (only?) options.
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Old Sep 28, 2013, 7:18 pm
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Thinking of booking traditional AA F Award rather than a RTW Award given that we're only going to a handful of cities over 3 weeks.

So something like JFK-HKG-JFK-(stopover at a later date)-YVR OR JFK-HKG, NRT-BOS-(somewhere else in North America)

Since we're just visiting REP,NRT, PEK, and HTY this might make more sense. Could get cheap inter-asia flights etc.

What do people think?
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Old Oct 1, 2013, 1:54 pm
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BA, LHR-MRU F long gone, now a 3 class out of LGW.

BA, LHR-GIG F is back.
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Old Oct 1, 2013, 2:30 pm
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Originally Posted by easterisland
BA, LHR-MRU F long gone, now a 3 class out of LGW. ...
Ouch! Mixing LHR and LGW on an xONEx ticket is a painful waste of two segments.

Against their interest, OW is making xONEx more interesting to business travelers (who save big bucks over point-to-point premium travel and have no use for 16 segments) than holiday travelers (who are probably buying 'up' to a premium cabin).
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Old Nov 26, 2013, 10:14 am
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Should update to add Qatar Airways first class routes to the list.

DOH-CDG
DOH-LHR (not all flights)

I think that's it for now but I may be wrong.
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Old Nov 26, 2013, 10:20 am
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Originally Posted by tys90
Should update to add Qatar Airways first class routes to the list.

DOH-CDG
DOH-LHR (not all flights)

I think that's it for now but I may be wrong.
Yes, that's it.
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Old Dec 8, 2013, 6:22 am
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Do QR run it on their SIN-DPS or PNH-SGN tags?
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Old Dec 8, 2013, 11:48 am
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Originally Posted by Isochronous
Do QR run it on their SIN-DPS or PNH-SGN tags?
Go up two posts.
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Old Dec 8, 2013, 1:51 pm
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Originally Posted by tys90
Should update to add Qatar Airways first class routes to the list.

DOH-CDG
DOH-LHR (not all flights)

I think that's it for now but I may be wrong.
They also have F on at least some of their short-haul routes in the Middle East.

cheers,

Henry
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Old Dec 8, 2013, 3:32 pm
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Originally Posted by henry999
They also have F on at least some of their short-haul routes in the Middle East.

cheers,

Henry
3-class F? All the F I have seen is 2-class, which is now included on a DONEx.
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Old Mar 31, 2014, 1:11 am
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TAM F

I'm probably gonna miss some, but from my research:

GRU
CDG
FRA
LIM
MAD
MXP
MEX
MIA
MCO
JFK

GIG
JFK
MIA
LHR
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Old Mar 31, 2014, 2:39 am
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Originally Posted by Spicy B
I'm probably gonna miss some, but from my research:
Thanks. List is updated to here.
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