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Old Aug 1, 2016, 1:42 pm
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Intercontinental and Transcontinental

Watch out for codeshares and some routes have multiple aircraft types operating (with and without first class).


Names used for First Class
First Class - AA, BA, CX, JL, KA, QF, QR
Some airlines (e.g. BA, QF) also simply brand it as First
Business Suites - MH


American Airlines
Aircraft type
All mainline aircraft type, but 10 Hawaii 757 & MD-80 first class are of poor standard.

Only 20 777-300ER and 17 A321T aircraft with 3 class First are listed below.
(All 777-200ER / 772 have been refitted and have no F cabin.)

Routes
Between Chicago O'Hare and
NONE

Between Dallas Fort Worth and
Hong Kong
London Heathrow (2 of 3 flights)

Between Los Angeles and
Hong Kong (1 flight)
London Heathrow (1 flight)

Between Miami and
Buenos Aires (1 flight)
London Heathrow (1 flight)

Between New York JFK and
London Heathrow (1 flight)
Los Angeles (all flights)
San Francisco (all flights)
Sao Paulo


British Airways
Aircraft type
747, 777 (some), 789 and A380.

Routes
Between London Heathrow and
Abu Dhabi
Abuja
Atlanta
Austin
Bahrain
Bangalore
Beijing
Boston
Cairo
Cape Town
Chicago
Dallas
Delhi (some flights)
Denver
Doha
Dubai
Hong Kong
Houston
Johannesburg
Kuala Lumpur
Kuwait
Lagos
Los Angeles
Luanda
Mexico City
Miami
Moscow DME
Mumbai
Muscat
New York JFK
Newark (some flights)
Philadelphia (some flights)
Phoenix
Santiago SCL
San Diego
San Francisco
San Jose SJC
Sao Paulo
Seattle
Shanghai
Singapore
Sydney
Tel Aviv (some flights)
Tokyo HND
Tokyo NRT
Toronto (some flights)
Vancouver
Washington IAD (some flights)

Between London Gatwick and
Bermuda
Bridgetown
Grenada
Port of Spain
St Lucia
San Jose SJO

Between St Lucia and
Grenada
Port of Spain

Between Singapore and
Sydney


Cathay Pacific
Aircraft type
777-300ER (33 frames out of 53)

Routes
Between Hong Kong and
Boston
Chicago
Frankfurt
Jakarta (some flights May to October 2018)
London Heathrow (some flights)
Los Angeles (some flights)
Milan
New York JFK
Paris CDG (some flights)
San Francisco (some flights)
Tokyo HND (some flights)
Vancouver (some flights)
Zurich

Between Vancouver and
New York JFK


Dragonair
Aircraft type
A330 (some flights only)

Routes
Between Hong Kong and
Beijing
Kaohsiung
Shanghai
Taipei


Japan Airlines
Aircraft type
domestic 772 (W15/W16) 14 seats (2-2-2)
domestic 763 (A25) 5 seats (2-1-2)
international 773 (W84) 8 seats (1-2-1)

Routes
Between Tokyo Haneda and
Chitose
Fukuoka
Okinawa
Osaka ITM
London Heathrow
New York JFK
Paris CDG
San Francisco

Between Tokyo Narita and
Chicago
Los Angeles
New York JFK


LATAM
None


Malaysia Airlines
Aircraft type
A380

Routes
Between Kuala Lumpur and
London Heathrow


Qantas
Aircraft type
A380 (but some flights sold without F e.g. occasional SYD-HKG)

Routes
Between Sydney and
Dallas
Hong Kong (some flights)
London Heathrow (via Singapore)
Los Angeles

Between Melbourne and
Los Angeles (QF93/94 only)
Singapore

Between Singapore and
London Heathrow


Qatar
Aircraft type
A330 (only one), A380

Routes
Between Doha and
Bangkok (seasonal, some flights)
London LHR (some flights)
Guangzhou
Melbourne (seasonal - Northern Winter)
Paris CDG (1 flight/day)
Sydney (seasonal - Northern Winter)
some intra-Middle East routes have 2-class F (J seat, J food and J wine sold as F)


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Old Jun 13, 2008, 1:03 am
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It looks as if the one JL NRT-SIN (& v/v) in First on a 747 is being dropped from the summer season for 2009 (i.e. from March 29, 2009). Replacement is a 2-class 777.

This will mess up quite a few AONEx plans.
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Old Jun 13, 2008, 2:51 am
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Looking at flights in July and August, CX seems to have F to KIX on some flights.
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Old Jun 14, 2008, 1:39 am
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CX has first class HKG-ICN a couple of times a week.
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Old Jun 14, 2008, 2:10 am
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CX:

Add Auckland (seasonal, NH winter 08-09)

Amend Johannesburg: JNB now has year-round F service, with the 346 in NH summer and back to the 744 in NH winter (unsure what will happen in NH summer 09 when the 346's are returned)

Add rider to Rome FCO: Operates with a mix of 34C and 34D depending on day of the week - only 34C has First Class. FCO is 343 service year round now.

Add rider to Frankfurt: Extra daily flights (not CX288/9, the other one, I think CX282/5?) operate with two-class 34D's.
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Old Jun 14, 2008, 4:52 pm
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Thanks, OP updated.
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Old Jul 27, 2008, 8:28 am
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Originally Posted by satprof
It looks as if the one JL NRT-SIN (& v/v) in First on a 747 is being dropped from the summer season for 2009 (i.e. from March 29, 2009). Replacement is a 2-class 777.

This will mess up quite a few AONEx plans.
Including mine! That particular flight is one of the few in Asia that is >2000 miles which makes it very desirable for earning BA tier points.

And as I start to plan the last part of my AONE5 I also find that some of CX's flights - HKG-SIN-HKG and BKK-SIN - are also becoming 2-class affairs next year.
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Old Jul 27, 2008, 9:29 am
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HKG-CGK has First on certain days but only on one of the two flights (CX777)
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Old Jul 27, 2008, 9:53 am
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CX now has F to BOM on a 74A.
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Old Jul 27, 2008, 12:32 pm
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This is a great thread. Could we perhaps make it a sticky one day?
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Old Jul 27, 2008, 10:22 pm
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Originally Posted by cAAribmorpho
This is a great thread. Could we perhaps make it a sticky one day?
It is already linked:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=801530
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Old Sep 9, 2008, 2:54 pm
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Some new routes with F this winter:

CX

HKG-AMS

AA

DFW-EZE
MIA-SCL
JFK-GIG (not new, but not listed yet)
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Old Sep 11, 2008, 2:11 pm
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JFK-GIG (not new, but not listed yet)
You really mean the JFK-GRU-GIG flight 951 right? I'm just checking because I heard TAM is supposed to start a nonstop, and I'm wondering if AA will respond.
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Old Sep 11, 2008, 2:40 pm
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Originally Posted by Cheetah_SA
Including mine! That particular flight is one of the few in Asia that is >2000 miles which makes it very desirable for earning BA tier points.

And as I start to plan the last part of my AONE5 I also find that some of CX's flights - HKG-SIN-HKG and BKK-SIN - are also becoming 2-class affairs next year.
For some odd reason though Thursday flights are still operated by 343 or 747 flights on which they are selling F seats. I have checked a few dates over the winter and it seems quite consistent.
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Old Nov 26, 2008, 9:16 am
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BOS-LHR to lose F

According to AA.com & EF, neither BOS-LHR flight will offer F as of Jan 3 '09.
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Old Dec 22, 2008, 10:22 pm
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BA:

BA no longer operate Rio de Janeiro <> Sao Paulo.
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