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danger May 21, 2025 6:10 am


Originally Posted by rbAA (Post 37098710)
So, where to start. i used the OW tool to try a 16 segment RTW and came back as 75000 NOK, about $7000. Thought that OSL was supposed to be cheaper?

That's anywhere from a shocking price (LONE3, for example) to an absolute steal (AONE5, for example).

serfty May 21, 2025 8:07 pm


Originally Posted by rbAA (Post 37098710)
So, where to start. i used the OW tool to try a 16 segment RTW and came back as 75000 NOK, about $7000. Thought that OSL was supposed to be cheaper?

How many "continents" in the routing?

Currently ExpertFlyer indicates the DONEx base fare for Norway is

3 Continent - NOK52398
4 Continent - NOK57959

5 Continent - NOK66185
6 Continent - NOK75022

You need to add taxes, levies and surcharges to whatever the base fare is.

rbAA May 21, 2025 8:42 pm

DONE3 is 54000 NOK plus 13000+ in taxes/fees.

dutch_122 May 22, 2025 8:59 am


Originally Posted by rbAA (Post 37100218)
DONE3 is 54000 NOK plus 13000+ in taxes/fees.


rbAA,

Plating carrier AA or BA?

That's is very high for DONE3.

rbAA May 22, 2025 6:35 pm


Originally Posted by dutch_122 (Post 37101152)
rbAA,

Plating carrier AA or BA?

That's is very high for DONE3.

It is ex-OSL so it would be BA. I thought it was high there I tried ex-BKK it was much higher.

dvs7310 May 23, 2025 11:17 pm


Originally Posted by rbAA (Post 37102279)
It is ex-OSL so it would be BA. I thought it was high there I tried ex-BKK it was much higher.

The lowest at the moment are ex-OSL and ex-Japan. Ex-CMB isn't a whole lot higher and could make a compelling case as well.

There's actually another thread for pricing discussion though https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onew...periences.html

izzik May 24, 2025 7:18 am

If you just want a 3 continent then ex Japan may be worth considering, given the lower surcharges. DONE4 is much cheaper ex osl though, probably outweighing whatever you save. Though honestly most people factor in what carriers they want to fly which will determine where they start.

sambagrrl07 May 24, 2025 7:19 am

We booked ex-OSL on QR

sxpsxpsxp May 27, 2025 12:27 pm

I tried searching but couldn't find an answer....

I'm planning a DONE3, and when using the OneWorld booking tool, once I get into the flight selection screen (after it tells me my itinerary is valid) it is telling me that a maximum of 5 stopovers are permitted on itineraries under 26,000 miles (I have 8). Unless I'm blind, I don't see this listed in the actual rules document and I don't see that listed in the wiki. Is this a tool bug or is this an actual rule?

izzik May 27, 2025 1:46 pm


Originally Posted by sxpsxpsxp (Post 37110922)
I tried searching but couldn't find an answer....

I'm planning a DONE3, and when using the OneWorld booking tool, once I get into the flight selection screen (after it tells me my itinerary is valid) it is telling me that a maximum of 5 stopovers are permitted on itineraries under 26,000 miles (I have 8). Unless I'm blind, I don't see this listed in the actual rules document and I don't see that listed in the wiki. Is this a tool bug or is this an actual rule?

Again, the oneworld tool online is faulty.
This has been stated many times across this forum that the tool is not reliable for anything rule-based.
Please consider using a travel agent or contacting an airline (AA is one option).

Mwenenzi May 27, 2025 2:29 pm


Originally Posted by sxpsxpsxp (Post 37110922)
I tried searching but couldn't find an answer....

I'm planning a DONE3, and when using the OneWorld booking tool, once I get into the flight selection screen (after it tells me my itinerary is valid) it is telling me that a maximum of 5 stopovers are permitted on itineraries under 26,000 miles (I have 8). Unless I'm blind, I don't see this listed in the actual rules document and I don't see that listed in the wiki. Is this a tool bug or is this an actual rule?

The booking tool is thinking you are booking a *GLOB* distance based RTW ---> https://www.oneworld.com/round-the-world
That may or may not be a real error. That error message can also show when you have a error in *ONE* itinerary.
What is your route / airlines?

Round The World Airline Tickets
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oneworld's Round The World tickets give you unprecedented access to hundreds of destinations in 170 territories. We offer three types of Round The World trips:
  • oneworld Explorer: a continent-based fare,
  • Global Explorer: a distance-based fare,
  • Circle Pacific: an inter-continental journey to explore continents that border the Pacific Ocean.


    Global Explorer
    Distance-Based Air Travel
    For an even wider choice of where to travel, book your Round The World trip via Global Explorer, which grants you access to an even more extensive list of airlines, including Aer Lingus, Bangkok Airways, Jetstar, Jetstar Asia, Jetstar Japan, Jetstar Pacific, WestJet, and Qantas code-share flights operated by Air Tahiti Nui.

    sxpsxpsxp May 27, 2025 8:44 pm


    Originally Posted by izzik (Post 37111049)
    Again, the oneworld tool online is faulty.
    This has been stated many times across this forum that the tool is not reliable for anything rule-based.
    Please consider using a travel agent or contacting an airline (AA is one option).

    Wasn't actually trying to book - just wanted to get a fare estimate with taxes and fees, which I know can vary significantly. I figured it was probably a tool bug but wanted to check with the experts here, in case I was missing something.


    Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 37111124)
    The booking tool is thinking you are booking a *GLOB* distance based RTW

    Thank you, now that message makes sense in that context!

    I will certainly not attempt to book on my own when it is time to book it, but will work with an agency.


    Wing It One World May 30, 2025 3:51 pm

    Sector 1. OSL HEL 03/Sep/2025. 474 miles

    OSL HEL AY918

    2030 2255 (operated by Finnair)

    Stops : 0 Via : Booking Class: Business

    Sector 2. HEL SIN 04/Sep/2025. 5759 miles

    HEL SIN AY131

    0025 1825 (operated by Finnair)

    Stops : 0 Via : Booking Class: Business

    Sector 3. SIN LAX 08/Sep/2025. 3327 miles and 5436 miles

    SIN LAX JL712/JL62

    0805 1130 (operated by Jet Linx Aviation/ operated by Jet Linx Aviation) not sure why its stating a private Jet ?

    Stops : 0 Via : TYO Booking Class: Business/Business

    Sector 4. LAX HEL 10/Sep/2025 + 1 day

    LAX HEL AA2091/AY20. My issue here is AA flight number 1231 miles Ay is 5597

    1035 1045 (operated by American Airlines/ operated by Finnair)

    Stops : 0 Via : DFW Booking Class: Business/Business

    Sector 5. HEL OSL 12/Sep/2025. 474 miles

    HEL OSL AY917

    1920 1945 (operated by Finnair)

    Stops : 0 Via : Booking Class: Business. Total miles is AY and JL 21067 AA is 1231

    I want to credit to BA but not sure what the nTPs would be. I think if I rang BA to process it would the mileage be 21067/2 =10,533.5 =307 for the AA flight = 10840 total for a cost of £4,179.00 /10840 getting a very respectable 0.3855p per tier point. ??????????

    Mwenenzi May 30, 2025 4:08 pm


    Originally Posted by Wing It One World (Post 37117615)
    Sector 1. OSL HEL 03/Sep/2025. 474 miles
    OSL HEL AY918
    2030 2255 (operated by Finnair)
    Stops : 0 Via : Booking Class: Business

    Sector 2. HEL SIN 04/Sep/2025. 5759 miles
    HEL SIN AY131
    0025 1825 (operated by Finnair)
    Stops : 0 Via : Booking Class: Business

    Sector 3. SIN LAX 08/Sep/2025. 3327 miles and 5436 miles
    SIN LAX JL712/JL62
    0805 1130 (operated by Jet Linx Aviation/ operated by Jet Linx Aviation) not sure why its stating a private Jet ?
    Stops : 0 Via : TYO Booking Class: Business/Business

    Sector 4. LAX HEL 10/Sep/2025 + 1 day
    LAX HEL AA2091/AY20. My issue here is AA flight number 1231 miles Ay is 5597
    1035 1045 (operated by American Airlines/ operated by Finnair)
    Stops : 0 Via : DFW Booking Class: Business/Business

    Sector 5. HEL OSL 12/Sep/2025. 474 miles
    HEL OSL AY917
    1920 1945 (operated by Finnair)
    Stops : 0 Via : Booking Class: Business. Total miles is AY and JL 21067 AA is 1231

    I want to credit to BA but not sure what the nTPs would be. I think if I rang BA to process it would the mileage be 21067/2 =10,533.5 =307 for the AA flight = 10840 total for a cost of £4,179.00 /10840 getting a very respectable 0.3855p per tier point. ??????????

    Is this a Oneworld RTW *ONE* fare? (the topic of this thread)
    Better to ask in BA forum as your question is about earning to the BA ffp

    Wing It One World May 30, 2025 4:46 pm

    Yes it is a done3 I'm not sure if anyone is going to be able to tell me, I'm really not sure BA would even be able to assist:) thanks anyway.

    aaupgrade May 30, 2025 5:49 pm


    Originally Posted by Wing It One World (Post 37117710)
    Yes it is a done3 I'm not sure if anyone is going to be able to tell me, I'm really not sure BA would even be able to assist:) thanks anyway.

    BA Tier Pts for AA flight would be based on price in £ for that sector. You can estimate that amount by taking the (Miles for AA segment / Miles for entire trip) x Base Price in £ of DONE3 Ticket.

    For the other airlines here's a link to BA's Avios and tier point flight calculator.

    serfty May 30, 2025 6:21 pm


    Originally Posted by Wing It One World (Post 37117710)
    Yes it is a done3 I'm not sure if anyone is going to be able to tell me, I'm really not sure BA would even be able to assist:) thanks anyway.

    There may be members with greater specific BA nTP earn experience who frequent the BA Club forum more than here.

    Maybe ask your query in these largeish threads on nTP earning:

    https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...l#post37072389

    https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...-airlines.html


    aaaxton May 30, 2025 11:57 pm


    Originally Posted by Wing It One World (Post 37117615)
    I want to credit to BA but not sure what the nTPs would be. I think if I rang BA to process it would the mileage be 21067/2 =10,533.5 =307 for the AA flight = 10840 total for a cost of £4,179.00 /10840 getting a very respectable 0.3855p per tier point. ??????????

    I had a similar case on my recent DONE3:


    Originally Posted by aaaxton (Post 37050314)
    The number appears to be calculated by allocating the base fare to segments according to distance. spending = base fare * (distance travelled on this flight / total distance in the booking).

    My xONEx calculator is reporting about 10554 nTPs on your itinerary, but it may differ based on your starting point (base fare, actually).

    Best to discuss this in the ba forum.

    TKMAXX May 31, 2025 6:37 pm

    Saw that the latest rules now have Fiji Airways added:

    First / Business / Economy RTW / Open Jaw travel via AA/AS/AT/AY/BA/CX/FJ/IB/JL/MH/NU/QF/QR/RJ/UL operated services worldwide
    Along with HA being absorbed into AS next year, constructing a route is going to be even easier - just add a stopover in Fiji, or Hawaii, with plenty of connections to both!

    Mwenenzi May 31, 2025 7:21 pm


    Originally Posted by TKMAXX (Post 37119649)
    Saw that the latest rules now have Fiji Airways added:

    First / Business / Economy RTW / Open Jaw travel via AA/AS/AT/AY/BA/CX/FJ/IB/JL/MH/NU/QF/QR/RJ/UL operated services worldwide
    Along with HA being absorbed into AS next year, constructing a route is going to be even easier - just add a stopover in Fiji, or Hawaii, with plenty of connections to both!

    That happened 31 March 2025 ----> https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onew...l#post36995396
    OW Rules changed at same time---> https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onew...l#post36994806

    Perisai Jun 1, 2025 7:00 pm

    Quick question:

    I've started a DONEx with the following flights NRT-HKG-CMB (transfer within 24h); is it possible for me to (change my ticket) to fly CMB-HKG (>24h visit) and then connect to next segment leaving the Asia region?

    From my understanding, this should be fine, but appreciate if the experts could confirm before I contact CX :)

    izzik Jun 2, 2025 5:34 am

    What does the rest of your trip look like

    zoombee Jun 2, 2025 9:43 am


    Originally Posted by Perisai (Post 37121411)
    Quick question:

    I've started a DONEx with the following flights NRT-HKG-CMB (transfer within 24h); is it possible for me to (change my ticket) to fly CMB-HKG (>24h visit) and then connect to next segment leaving the Asia region?

    From my understanding, this should be fine, but appreciate if the experts could confirm before I contact CX :)

    You can make any change that leaves you ending in a valid routing. Changing a connection to a stopover can result in an invalid routing if it's in the continent of origin where only two stopovers are allowed. Also, there's a fair chance this will be viewed as subject to the $125 fee for a route change. Finally, the taxes and surcharges are likely to change and you'll pay that difference.


    jcmurray Jun 6, 2025 4:19 am

    RTW itinerary to hit BA gold renewal.
     
    Advice please - I’m BA gold and thanks to some fortuitous legacy BA holiday trips, I currently have 13,870 new tier points - so I’m not far off the 20,000 needed to keep that status.

    I’m assuming that a RTW DONE3 ticket is now my cheapest way to hit the 20k target?

    I’ve never bought a RTW ticket before but I think a simple 5-sector business class trip would be enough if booked through AA?

    I have to take time off work so I’m looking for as quick a trip as possible bearing in mind the two stopover rule and positioning to/from OSL. Something like OSL-LHR-LAX-HND-LHR-OSL with stopovers in airport hotels at LAX and HND maybe?

    Can you experienced folk tell me if I am on the right track with this? Advice welcomed!


    dvs7310 Jun 6, 2025 9:34 am


    Originally Posted by jcmurray (Post 37130313)
    Advice please - I’m BA gold and thanks to some fortuitous legacy BA holiday trips, I currently have 13,870 new tier points - so I’m not far off the 20,000 needed to keep that status.

    I’m assuming that a RTW DONE3 ticket is now my cheapest way to hit the 20k target?

    I’ve never bought a RTW ticket before but I think a simple 5-sector business class trip would be enough if booked through AA?

    I have to take time off work so I’m looking for as quick a trip as possible bearing in mind the two stopover rule and positioning to/from OSL. Something like OSL-LHR-LAX-HND-LHR-OSL with stopovers in airport hotels at LAX and HND maybe?

    Can you experienced folk tell me if I am on the right track with this? Advice welcomed!

    I'm not as knowledgeable in the new BA program as I am with AA, AY, and QR but I do remember when everyone was panicking about the new BA program I posted a sample itinerary in one of these forums with a DONE3 that would earn the full 20k plus a bit.

    So personally I think a DONE 3 for just over 6k points is WAY overkill unless you max it out and fly half this year and half next year. (BA years, not calendar year). If you watch the premium fares thread you should be able to find something for way less. Might not be as quick if you don't have time, but I don't think you need to spend the necessary $5-6k on an ex-OSL DONE3.

    Edit, found it: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/36781132-post13.html

    That was an ex-TYO version, but focus on avoiding any AA, BA, IB codes. When looking for cheaper flights in the deals thread ex-Europe, focus on anything with AY, JL, QR, or even EI codes (typically those EI's are to North America so shorter distance overall). All of those earn 25% on cheap business class and 50% on higher tier business class. I'll probably take you 2 long haul trips to do it since the ones usually posted in the premium fares thread will be lower fare bucket biz, but they're quite often anywhere from $1-2k round trip from various points in Europe. I don't see anything on the first page that jumps out as being fantastic right now, but they do come up frequently enough. You still have 3/4 of the year to go.

    Leonidasc Jun 6, 2025 10:11 am

    jcmurray since you don't care that much for more than 7000 nTPs, then you can possibly do this one
    OSL-LHR on BA
    LHR-DOH on QR
    DOH-LAX on QR
    LAX-NRT on JL
    NRT-DOH on QR
    DOH-OSL on QR

    It's priced at £4,358.36 and will award you more than 13000 nTPs. Achievable in even 5 days

    jcmurray Jun 6, 2025 10:11 am

    Thanks!

    Mwenenzi Jun 6, 2025 4:02 pm


    Originally Posted by jcmurray (Post 37130313)
    Advice please - I’m BA gold and thanks to some fortuitous legacy BA holiday trips, I currently have 13,870 new tier points - so I’m not far off the 20,000 needed to keep that status.

    I’m assuming that a RTW DONE3 ticket is now my cheapest way to hit the 20k target?
    I’ve never bought a RTW ticket before but I think a simple 5-sector business class trip would be enough if booked through AA?

    I have to take time off work so I’m looking for as quick a trip as possible bearing in mind the two stopover rule and positioning to/from OSL. Something like OSL-LHR-LAX-HND-LHR-OSL with stopovers in airport hotels at LAX and HND maybe?

    Can you experienced folk tell me if I am on the right track with this? Advice welcomed!

    OW Rule 3015

    6. MINIMUM STAY
    No minimum stay except:
    All fares originating in TC1 Travel on the last international sector must commence no earlier than 10
    days after commencement of the first international sector
    7. MAXIMUM STAY
    Return travel from the last stopover point must commence no later than 12 months after departure.
    8. STOPOVERS
    Permitted.
    NOTE:
    1. Minimum 2 stopovers required
    2. Maximum 2 stopovers permitted in the continent of origin

    The OW RTW tickets can have up to 16 segments. Get best value if use all, in the 12 month validity. A stopover is more than 24hrs
    You could put other flights between LHR OSL. Have a long stop over in London - for months, with some other later EU flights. Do the last segment on day 365. DOH is EU for RTW rules.
    https://www.oneworld.com/round-the-world

    zoombee Jun 7, 2025 4:24 am


    Originally Posted by jcmurray (Post 37130313)
    Advice please - I’m BA gold and thanks to some fortuitous legacy BA holiday trips, I currently have 13,870 new tier points - so I’m not far off the 20,000 needed to keep that status.

    I’m assuming that a RTW DONE3 ticket is now my cheapest way to hit the 20k target?

    I’ve never bought a RTW ticket before but I think a simple 5-sector business class trip would be enough if booked through AA?

    I have to take time off work so I’m looking for as quick a trip as possible bearing in mind the two stopover rule and positioning to/from OSL. Something like OSL-LHR-LAX-HND-LHR-OSL with stopovers in airport hotels at LAX and HND maybe?

    Can you experienced folk tell me if I am on the right track with this? Advice welcomed!

    It's unclear how time constrained you are for planning/ticketing, but you might consider just getting to the US for your 7k ntp needs and then using the rest in the next earning year and/or for fun later, nesting a return to London in between.

    Eg Osl-doh-lhr-doh-jfk (presumably stopping in lhr) gets you 7k ish i believe. Then fly back to London on points and complete the rtw next year.

    Or Osl-doh-lax-jfk gets you very very close to your needs if a qr code share on lax-jfk is possible (I'm unsure) which would likely require using a travel agent.

    Wing It One World Jun 7, 2025 4:34 am

    I would see how much a Lhr hel sin return in D class on AY that would get you the amount of points you need, getting a RTW is pointless for that amount of points you need. Unless you were trying for GGL.

    Hel-Sin return is going to het you 5500+ miles not sure about the LHR HEL bit but I pretty convinced you will be a few points over 20000 after, given your time restraints you could do it over 3 day weekend.

    dvs7310 Jun 7, 2025 5:42 am


    Originally Posted by zoombee (Post 37132043)
    It's unclear how time constrained you are for planning/ticketing, but you might consider just getting to the US for your 7k ntp needs and then using the rest in the next earning year and/or for fun later, nesting a return to London in between.

    Eg Osl-doh-lhr-doh-jfk (presumably stopping in lhr) gets you 7k ish i believe. Then fly back to London on points and complete the rtw next year.

    Or Osl-doh-lax-jfk gets you very very close to your needs if a qr code share on lax-jfk is possible (I'm unsure) which would likely require using a travel agent.

    LAX-JFK can be coded as QR, AY, or JL depending on the flight, some overlap, others don't.

    jcmurray Jun 7, 2025 12:01 pm


    Originally Posted by Wing It One World (Post 37132062)
    I would see how much a Lhr hel sin return in D class on AY that would get you the amount of points you need, getting a RTW is pointless for that amount of points you need. Unless you were trying for GGL.

    Hel-Sin return is going to het you 5500+ miles not sure about the LHR HEL bit but I pretty convinced you will be a few points over 20000 after, given your time restraints you could do it over 3 day weekend.

    Thank you! I’ve just looked at a LHR-HEL-SIN-HEL-LHR run which would return 6643 miles for just over £2.5K and is doable within 4 days. That ticks my boxes.

    Presumably this has to be booked with FINNAIR but credited to my BA Club number?

    headinclouds Jun 8, 2025 8:52 am


    Originally Posted by jcmurray (Post 37132780)
    Thank you! I’ve just looked at a LHR-HEL-SIN-HEL-LHR run which would return 6643 miles for just over £2.5K and is doable within 4 days. That ticks my boxes.

    Presumably this has to be booked with FINNAIR but credited to my BA Club number?

    Or you could go DUB-HEL-SIN-HEL-DUB for 2500 euros and 5 days.

    Leonidasc Jun 8, 2025 10:08 am

    Good afternoon

    I have a couple of questions please.

    I see in the wiki and the rules that: Generally, the ticket will be issued by whichever airline flies your first segment.
    1.Does this mean that if i call BA cause the 1st flight might be with them, all flights will receive a BA codeshare number or each flight will have its primary flight numbers as oneworld's rtw site?
    2. Has anyone used BA to make a rtw ticket a BA holiday or it's not possible?

    Thanks!



    izzik Jun 8, 2025 12:17 pm


    Originally Posted by Leonidasc (Post 37134146)
    Good afternoon

    I have a couple of questions please.

    I see in the wiki and the rules that: Generally, the ticket will be issued by whichever airline flies your first segment.
    1.Does this mean that if i call BA cause the 1st flight might be with them, all flights will receive a BA codeshare number or each flight will have its primary flight numbers as oneworld's rtw site?
    If you call BA, there is no requirement that all flights must be marketed with a BA number.. in fact, there are many flights where BA doesn't have a codeshare number.
    Ultimately, what do you want to get? That is probably easier than trying to describe every possible situation that could possibly happen.


    2. Has anyone used BA to make a rtw ticket a BA holiday or it's not possible?
    There have been reports that BA can book a RTW ticket, although the agent's knowledge level can be highly variable. You can search this forum to read up on others' experiences doing so.

    Thanks!


    Leonidasc Jun 8, 2025 2:58 pm

    Thank you izzik

    Two things actually. Not having BA codeshares to maximize my TP income to BAC and to price the ticket in £ than NOK

    Wing It One World Jun 8, 2025 9:06 pm


    Originally Posted by jcmurray (Post 37132780)
    Thank you! I’ve just looked at a LHR-HEL-SIN-HEL-LHR run which would return 6643 miles for just over £2.5K and is doable within 4 days. That ticks my boxes.

    Presumably this has to be booked with FINNAIR but credited to my BA Club number?

    as long as it's booked with a AY and under D,C or J then yes credited to BA you can do it in 3 days with no hotel costs and you could be home for Sunday roast. 🤪

    jcmurray Jun 9, 2025 1:39 am

    Perfect! 😁

    R2 Jun 10, 2025 3:13 am


    Originally Posted by Leonidasc (Post 37134146)
    2. Has anyone used BA to make a rtw ticket a BA holiday or it's not possible?

    Thanks!

    Try emailing [email protected]. It's been a couple of years since I last used it but the people responding were helpful and familiar with the RTW fares.

    Leonidasc Jun 10, 2025 3:56 am

    Fantastic! Much appreciated R2 andy to be honest 30' ago i reached the always helpful BA team in X and provided the relevant information


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