FWIW I have the exact same issue running Firefox on Macbook. A sizeable number of airports (e.g. OSL) simply don't show up when you try to enter the code or the full name. However, when I switch to Chrome the tool will find basically every airport OW serves.

The webpage has an issue with Firefox. So far we know it. I did some investigation. The data are loaded, so OSL as an airport is there but cannot be found when you search for it. Time to send OW an bug report.

Edge is working with the tool.

I believe the issue is with Expert Flyer.

When you input JNB>JNB using AA and denominated in USD (EF's default) a DONE4 comes in at $6422. If you keep USD but change to QR or BA it changes to $5585.

When you change it to pricing in ZAR (as it would in the real world) using AA, EF doesn't return any fares for D or A anything. Using QR or BA gives the price at 101,110 ZAR. Converting at today's FX rates that comes to US$5639, close enough to $5585 for FX fluctuations to account for the difference.
Swapping OSL for JNB, all three come in at 57,950 NOK, which converts to US$5623, which is what EF shows (more or less) as the USD price.

So the issue is EF and AA. Maybe a problem with Sabre vs. Amadeus?

Some (all?) post over last few days more of a topic for--> https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onew...ease-read.html
Better if threads kept on topic, even if some posts get moved to the correct thread

I'm going to leave them here for now rather than make people have to bounce around. But longer term, you're right.

Gardyloo
Oneworld moderator

So if I actually buy a DONE4, the USD price would be $5,585? Do you know if there's any way to make this apply to tickets purchased from the AA RTW desk? When I set purchasing city to DFW, that's the fare I got, but not for AA, which was significantly more.

I remember when last year's ex-CAI fare was disappearing, MH still had theirs published much later than others, and AA was issuing on the MH fare. Also similar happened when ex-Japan increased, I think it was MH and CX that remained lower for quite some time and I recall people saying that AA was issuing on those. Since AA does have a fare ex-JNB/CPT/DUR, etc. maybe they won't do it now, but it's worth trying to tell them that the QR fare is much lower and ask to have that one used. Should that fail, MRU isn't too far away and is in that range too on all carriers.

If the issue is with EF, what are you going to reference?
Why would AA care?

Thank you, very helpful.


Do you remember the old days of buying these from BA at MRU?

The oneworld explorer does not allow backtracking, you can go west or east.
The flight vom Haneda to singapore and back to narita is not allowed in the ticket

That is incorrect. The backtracking rule applies to backtracking between TC zones. You can zigzag and backtrack within continents with a few exceptions, e.g. Hawaii and mainland North America. HND-SIN-NRT is perfectly okay.

married segments
 

Do married segment restrictions apply (as I have perhaps mistakenly always thought) only to connections (<24h) or do they also affect stopovers (24h> ) ?

I'm building a DONE4 for next year. I want AKL-per-SYD. Looking on ITA at the two segments separtely, I see D availability on both. Putting them together, I get 'no flights found' -- even if I change to a multi-day stop at PER. Maybe a glitch in the ITA Matrix? (Any other free utility that allows specifying a fare bucket in a search?)

TIA

I am defintenly going to go mad before I start this trip......

DONE 4 already ticketed but wanted to fly SYD-PER and apparently no D class on QF - however, on the last flight of the day there is an FJ code share (FJ 5252) which does have D so asked to be put on that and it was confirmed.

Sent down to fares dept who say that as I am changing from a QF flight number to a FJ flight number there is a change fee.

No change of routing just changing the date and going from a QF flight number to a FJ one

Anyone see a reason for a fee ?

My understanding is that change of carrier does get hit with the fee.

so the obvious question is why and where does it say that in the rules ?

Isn't the whole point of a one world ticket that you can use one world carriers ?

And when my AKL - JFK changed from QF3 to the AA code share there was no fee charged

It doesn't and I share your frustration. Others, however, seem to think the rules are clear. In my view, this is another example of where that comes unstuck.

I may have missed it but who's your ticketing carrier?

BA are the ticketing carrier (probably for the last time on a ticket like this!)

Been ticketed? International flight before or after the SYD-PER FJ5252 ?
Would be surprised if FJ have AU domestic traffic rights for an standalone AU domestic flight,

AKL PER is a new route from 8 Dec 2025. Closely linked to QF's AKL-JFK-AKL- QF3/QF4 flight
--> https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/me...for-customers/

Yes, fair point to raise.... (and ticket already issued some time ago - just trying to change a date to suit my schedule - currently ticketed SYD-PER on a next day QF flight)

I arrive into SYD on QF at 1420 from JNB so would like to fly out to PER the same day. What's annoying is that EF shows lots of D in many QF flights from SYD - PER but BA apparently says there are none - so was surprised FJ had D but I guess that's the quirk. EF shows the below hence why I went for it.


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...285562ba64.jpg

AA does not charge a fee if the ticketed points remain the same. In fact, this was quoted to me by the AAgent last time I had to change a flight, "You're not changing cities, so there's no change fee." The itinerary still had to be sent to the rate desk to check for changes in taxes and carrier surcharges.

But from above - a date change should not require the ticket to be re-issued (only revalidated) so there should be no re-price or need to check for changes in taxes etc

Changing the marketing carrier on a route can definitely incur a difference in fees. I had a schedule change where I was flying MEL PER on AA codeshare but it cancelled.. so I was rebooked on QF prime flight and I got a small refund.

Taxes can change with time, so they always want to check. Also, the agents on the desk don't deal with pricing issues, so they always need to send it to the rate desk to check.

yes, but my point was to the last two posts that a simple date change does not involve a re-price just revalidation.

If the ticket was being re-issued then sure, I agree there may be a price change due to taxes - but changing a date should not involve this.

I thought this was a change of carrier... or are you citing a different situation?
Last but not least, the ticketing carrier may act differently... AA vs BA vs QF vs JL vs...

My contention is that change of carrier on a RTW makes no difference and in fact I had another conversation with BA and a supervisior in BA today who agreed with me that there is nothng in the fare rules that allows for a change fee when keeping the same route but changing the date and/or carrier.

Perhaps on a non-rtw I could maybe see the logic but there is a fare for a rtw for all carriers.

So lets see - its currently back with BA ticketing for them to justify why there is a change fee (or any other fee for that matter) when there is nothing in the fare rules.

Perhaps I misunderstood. I thought that you were asking why AA had to send the ticket to the rate desk when there's no change fee if you don't change ticketed points, and only change dates/times/carriers. Yes, there's no change fee, but the agents with whom you deal don't know whether there's been a change in taxes, etc., since the ticket was first issued. That's what the rate desk does.

So, BA have now agreed with me that there is no change fee so that at least proves my point, and for all of us in the future, that there is NO change fee due for changing carrier or date (as long as the ticketed points remain the same)

It is also my understanding that there is no need to re-calculate the taxes as all taxes have been paid previously and I am just revalidating the ticket (otherwise there would ALWAYS be a difference due to exchange rate differences from time of booking to now even if the taxes (in local currency) remained the same - which is quite likely for most tickets)

Lets see what the fares desk come back with and if they just do the change at no cost as they did last time when changing my AKL - JFK (date change from May to June and carrier change from QF to AA Codeshare)

Thanks for the discussion
 

Thanks for this discussion. Moral... have you started flying on the ticket? I am trying to keep it clear in my mind when repricing, change fees, and surcharge/taxes are charged.

Based on my experience and reading the Oneworld rules in our sticky :

I "think" repricing happens if you have not flown yet. I "think" change fees happen when you change flights (not for simple date or carrier changes) after starting travel. I "think" surcharge/taxes can be charged on any change after starting travel - this seems to be case you are pursuing. Hope you find out that I am wrong about the surcharges/ taxes for date changes only.

Please report what your results are. Thank you.

Just curious but why did you choose ba for ticketing?

We recently booked a RTW, first few flights with BA (OSL-LHR-GIG-EZE-...), all the rest other oneworld including several QR flights. Our travel agent ticketed with QR as BA were (significantly) more expensive.

So the only way to get ticketing with QR is through a TA? I don't really mind working with a TA but having had one go out of business I have not done so in awhile.

Not sure, this is our second RTW and our travel agent (Trailfinders) came back to us with the option of who we book with. To be honest I was not aware that we would have an option and was happy to go with QR and pay less.

This may be so, but if you want QR as carrier on first flight, you need a TA to book. It might be possible to book with AA's RTW desk if you can get them to accept an AA South America flight as the overseas segment, but I haven't heard any success stories. I'm just planning using TA henceforth.

Partly because the first segment was with BA but mainly because I am spending more than a year travelling so my Itinerary is going to be changed a lot as half the ticket will not be confirmed until Oct this year when I can plan the US portion of the ticket (I start in Oslo in Jan 2026 and end in Oslo Jan 2027). Dealing with a known entity, roughly in my current timezone (even if they are awful), was part of my reasoning.

Second, I was going to book with Trailfinders and they seemed good when I rang them first time, but then they told me that although date changes were "free" Trailfinders would charge me 250 GBP (maybe it was 250 USD but whatever) for every change I made - which was their admin fee. Given I will make 5 or 6 changes to this ticket that was never going to work.

I am just starting planning a DONEX itin for my family of 4. We would begin in OSL. 2 of us need to fly approximately 11,000 miles on AY, BA, AA, or IB to retain AY Plat status. Is there a permitted itin from OSL-SFO that would only include EU and NA, hit the 11K mileage goal, yet leave 1 onward segment available from SFO-LAX so we could connect to LAX-HND and leave 1 EU segment available for LHR-OSL to close out the RTW?

As an example, is HEL-LPA-LHR permitted? That combined with LHR-MIA-SFO gets us very close.

Why not go osl hel doh on AY then DOH SFO on AA codeshare?

though the AY segments won't accrue much with AY+.. so, in that case, perhaps OSL-LHR-DOH on BA would be better earnings.