As a data point, I recently booked an ex-OSL DONE5 via the AA RTW desk with the only AA-marketed or operated legs being US to South America and vice versa (MIA-UIO and GRU-JFK). Maybe I got lucky but no there was no mention of any sort of TPAC / TATL / overwater requirement

arrivederci Welcome to FT & the ongoing OW RTW discussion
US to South America is long haul intercontinental North America ~ South America and between OW zones.

This is a bit confused and/or misleading. In the last six years, the AA RTW desk has happily booked three DONE4s for us with QR as the first flight (OSL-DOH) and we have never gone anywhere near South America.

AA RTW desk requires an intercontinental AA coded segment. So your choices are between Asia / Oceania & North America, Europe / ME & North America, or South America & North America.

The reason you see this come up so often is because people credting to AAdvantage want to avoid long haul AA segments due to the revenue credit basis penalty vs. distance on other codes. More recently people crediting to BA also want to avoid AA codes. For everyone else it often doesn't matter (I forget if IB matters or not, and for QR PC it's an advantage to have AA codes over QR codes)

No need to "think", guess, or otherwise. Most everything is in the rules, here.

Rules, Smules :)
 

Yep, you are correct per usual! Agree there are rules but there seem to be many interpretations of them. Or am I just imaging all the questions coming from people (i.e. Moral's discussion with BA) having the fees applied when the rules imply/state otherwise.

My comment was thrown out there to see what others have had "ruled" on them. You are probably much better at getting the rules interrupted properly; I am a very bad negotiator but can be a little stronger with first hand reports to spur me on.

Still have question of how book a QR ticket? only way through a TA? Thanks.

As per some of my replies in between this one -

It seems (by some miracle) that BA have finally changed my dates as requested. My QF64 Flight from JNB - SYD with a next day connection to Perth on QF has now been changed to same day QF64/FJ5252 (JNB-SYD-PER) and shows up as confirmed on BA - on manage my booking on the Qantas site the flights show up as JNB-PER. My receipt has ticket numbers so I am guessing all is in order.

No change fees or any repricing was done for this change or the previous one (when I changed the date and carrier on AKL-JFK).

I guess things will go quiet until around the Dec timeframe when I will make a series of changes to add in new dates for all my US flights (all 6 of them) as well as my trip home to the UK for Christmas (Dec 2026)

P.S. I am still seeking a solution for finding out why EF shows D availability on Qantas (for instance on the Syd to Per routing) but BA cannot see it (says there is none). Regardless of PoS (which I think does not matter these days) why would this be. This would seem to be some error on BA's part as (per the above), When I got the FJ code share booked FJ codeshare showed D5 in EF and the QF actual flight number showed D7 - BA could see the FJ D availability hence my booking but none on the QF number - and there are many flights to PER from SYD but BA can see D on only one of these flights for the numerous days I checked despite EF showing wide open in D on all of them.

Yes, QR doesn't issue RTWs themselves, but you can most definitely get one QR plated by a TA.

AA ticketed DONE4, no QR baggage allowance
 

I booked a DONE4 through the AA RTW desk, ex-OSL with first 2 segments on QR. After ticketing, the QR booking record (different PNR from AA) does not list a baggage allowance. However, MH, the operator of the 3rd segment (same PNR as QR), lists the proper baggage allowance for all segments. The QR customer service desk is adamant that I have no baggage allowance. Similar occurrences have been noted on the AA forum: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...allowance.html

My question: is there in fact an implicit agreement for OW RTW tickets? The OW website lists the default baggage allowance. The AA RTW desk as well as the X (Twitter) account states that for these tickets there is absolutely an agreed baggage allowance, but QR has a reputation for going by what's in their record and no other criteria.

Maybe try hanging up and calling again? It's not "implicit" - the fare rules explicitly mention that you get at least two free pieces:

hi Gerbs, have you tried AY/CX websites? You can request a detailed ticket email through their website, which includes detailed baggage policies. Not sure whether AY/CX would take the PNR if not flying with them, but if they do, they should use the same PNR as QR.
My last DONE3 was issued on QR, with no issues on checked baggages.

Thanks for the suggestion - the CX ticket detail does include the fare basis, which is actually DGLOB34 rather than DONE4. So as link2 suggested, I'll give QR a HUCA with the extra information.

So that I understand this correctly, are you saying that the information in the Matt video is incorrect and that crediting to AY scheme will not gain OWE for 80000 points?

No, I'm not. The original question was who was first spend based. AY or BA.

I've just booked a DONE4 and thought hard about where to credit the points. I originally thought Matt's idea best but as AY requires 80k for Emerald vs BA Gold at 20k. Best earning rates away from the host airline is going to be, for BA, 50% (EI, AY, JL, QR etc) so 40k miles needed (hiding fare from AA/BA by using codeshares on their legs). Best rate on Finnair is 250% on the "FAIB4" so 32k miles needed.

The big rub was carrier fuel surcharges. On BA vs JL or QR, I saw surcharges of £200-£300 more per sector choosing FAIB4 metal which soon adds up on the 16 sector DONE4 I just purchased. As an example, I'm flying JFK-LAX on AA but JL flight number and MSY-LHR on BA with AY flight number so will earn 50% miles rather than fare based that the airline would see if I used their own flight number.

I needed to add two more separate trips to obtain the itinerary I wanted (CHC-AKL-NAN and LHR-FCO-LHR side trip) and get a top up of NTPs with BA's current offer. Altogether, the RTW plus attachments has me earning 21k NTPs on BA for 34.7 UK pence per NTP. Plus the holiday of a lifetime in decent seats.

BA's TP Offer (per sector)

Euro Traveller - 75 bonus tier points
Club Europe - 175 bonus tier points
World Traveller - 150 bonus tier points
World Traveller Plus - 275 bonus tier points
Club World - 400 bonus tier points
First - 550 bonus tier points

https://www.britishairways.com/conte...er-point-bonus

https://www.britishairways.com/conte...points/flights

The availability would have to do with married segments and POC (point of commencement) of the fare. individual flight might have D class but the GDS looks at rest of PNR and shows you real availability based on flights BEFORE and AFTER the segment in question.

Actually it's not 32k for AY+ because of the elite tier bonus that you eventually get as you attain different status levels.
If you are starting from 0, it's roughly 30k on the 250% partners and 25.6k to retain platinum. That's all without converting avios to tier points 3:1.

Also, the BA bonus tier points is a temporary promotion at the moment... Without any guarantee of extension.

In the end,it really depends on where you want to go..but the key is marketing carrier codes. Also, a minor detail but I would not get too focused on "hiding the revenue from airlines" as that assumption can lead to incorrect conclusions about other things.

Thank you

FJ fly CHC NAN non stop as well from WLG & AKL. From CHC may be date dependent.
QF does not fly CHC AKL, but JQ does. So you are relying on the QF codeshare on JQ. As JQ is not a OW airline will not earn to any OW ffp, other than the QF ffp. JQ is a low cost airline and will not interline bags.

I'm getting an error I don't understand from the infamous OW website RTW planner

Your trip may include two stopovers over 24 hours in the continent where your journey started. If your itinerary includes both of these in your country of origin, one must be outbound and the other inbound. Additional stopovers under 24 hours are permitted in your itinerary. Please select a different date or flight.

I do indeed have 2 stopovers over 24hrs in my continent of origin, one at LHR and the other at DOH (highlighted) but I thought that was allowed.

OSL-LHRx-MIA-SFO-DFW-ICN-HKG-SIN-LHR-DOH-LHRx-OSL

By contrast, this shortened itinerary with only one stopover in Europe is accepted

OSL-LHRx-MIA-SFO-DFW-ICN-HKG-SIN-LHR-OSL

Please could someone explain the error of my ways. Many thanks.

If you entered OSL-xLHR-MIA as two segments in the form, the tool assumes that what you meant is actually OSL-LHR-MIA with a stopover in LHR. You need to enter just OSL-MIA. (which is a bit of a problem if you want to force a longer stopover - I really don't recommend using the tool)

Ah thank you. That makes sense now. After playing around with it all afternoon I agree with your recommendation!

Will it let you go forward?
 

I think I have seen that. Will it let you continue picking flights? I have seen that error or similar but was able to just go forward picking flights and at the end the tool had the right no. of segments and stops and did price out.

Good luck!

Thanks. Link2 was spot on with what the problem was and so I'm up and running again.

The issue occurred in the itinerary section and it wouldn't let me proceed to the flights section until I'd corrected it. It did let me freely edit the itinerary though.

Is it possible to enforce a break in the city to city route with a gap?

I am wanting to cover a bit of South America, but oneworld has no presence. So trying to fly into SCL or EZE and out of UIO (or vice versa) and considering filling the bit between SCL/EZE and UIO outside of the OW RTW ticket, but the online planner is not letting me. My intended RTW is proving difficult to put together.

Thanks.

We're flying MEL-CHC on the last leg of the DONE4 before it open jaws. Staying in CHC then loco (JQ) to AKL for couple of days, then AKL-PPT (already bought QF coded Air Tahiti Y ticket). Then a cruise PPT-NAN then back on to continue the rest of the DONE4 RTW from NAN-LAX etc.

The online tool is the problem.
It is not the gold standard on what is permissible.

Too true. I'm flying LAX-ANC-JFK-LAX-DFW-MSY as in real life ticketing DONEX doesn't view ANC-JFK as a transcontinental sector so I can go back there on the way to MSY (on a flat bed) to crank up the miles. JL codeshare for 50% credit to BAC too.

(I think better for one of the other threads- mods, please do move).
Did you have the ‘Choose Flights’ grayed out?

Try this: add an extra segment at the end (the + button). Delete the extra segment & immediately click ‘Choose Flights’- it gets ungrayed for a bit when you remove the extra segment..

I’ve had success pushing through an exJP which initially showed the ‘more than 2 stopovers in continent of Origin’ error- I had needed to input both legs (A-B, and B-C) of a transit because the preferred flights weren’t showing up in an A-C search even with preferred airline etc set.

Yes it was grayed out. Thanks for the tip I'll give it a try

Does ZRH-LHR-PER look available on the tool? Or just LHR-PER?

ZHR-LHR-PER does show in the tool on 10/22 and on 10/23. We were trying to do ZRH-LHR (20 hour stopover) on the 22nd connecting to LHR-PER on 10/23. LHR-PER both show D6 on 10/22 and 10/23.

Ah - just figured it out. When I search ZRH-LHR-PER (including the overnight in LHR), QF D is dropping from D6 to D1.

That tip worked so thanks again. Unfortunately I then hit the more than 34000 miles bug. Doh!!!!!!!

I realise my question is not about the oneworld RTW tool, but I'm at my wits' end with it. Is there a travel agent who can book RTW tickets who are more robust and expert then me limited with the online RTW tool? I've watched the recent Matt's Planet YouTube video about the oneworld RTW tool and tried Propeller Travel but not heard back after a fews weeks so assume as my route is not simple they ignored me.

I have a city list I want to take and know my dates (start and end are fixed due to work, and there's little leeway with the dates inbetween). Pencil and paper exercise of listing flights between the cities makes sense based on routes airline fly, except for the intra-South America bits as that's a big hole in oneworld. But the RTW tool forces less direct flights, does not offer sensible routings and also forces some in economy class even though I set the RTW tool to business class. Two examples:

• MAD-PVG it only offers BA (B789) via LHR and nothing else such as QR via DOH. With the £1,000s this will cost I'm not spending +12hrs in the BA old J seat. Why no QR being offered, as DOH is oneworld's Europe to Asia connection mega-hub or even CX via HKG?
• UIO-MAD it never offers the direct IB flight and either gives one-stop on AA via MIA or two-stops on AA/BA via MIA and LHR - utter madness.

To maximuimze my time I need to start (depart from London) on Saturday 26/5/2026 and end (arrive in Londn) on Sunday 21/6/2026. As the oneworld RTW is cheapest to start/end in OSL, then I'll get a cheap separate return between LGW/LHR and OSL. The route I wish to take is:

• OSL-MAD on IB
• 1 full day in Madrid
• MAD-PVG on QR via DOH
• 5 full days in Shanghai
• PVG-SIN on MH via KUL or CX via HKG
• 5 full days in Singapore (must include 1/6/2026 to 5/6/2026)
• SIN-WLG on QF via SYD or BNE
• 3 full days in Wellington
• WLG-SCL on QF via SYD
• 'Surface sectors' through South America on non-oneworld tickets for SCL-EZE and EZE-UIO with 3 days each in Buenos Aires and Quito
• UIO-OSL - IB via MAD
  • Would prefer UIO-MAD on IB, one ful day in Madrid and then MAD-OSL on IB. But that repeat stopover in Madrid possibly breaks the rules.

This seems simple on paper but the RTW tool will not build it.

I'd much prefer to do this with SkyTeam to earn Flying Blue Miles as I'm not a member of any oneworld (or Star Alliance program), but they stopped their RTW ticket a fews years ago. Finally, just building this routing on separate one-way flights that Google Flights/Skyscanner shows then elimates the need to start/end in OSL but provides results that are crazy expensive. I think the RTW ticket would be cheaper.

A quick look suggests your dates at the beginning don't work for a start. 1 full day in Madrid, 5 full days in Shanghai plus the time needed to fly LON-OSL-MAD, MAD-DOH-PVL and PVL-SIN doesn't add up if you're starting from LON on 26/5/26 and need to be in Singapore by 1/6/26.

Well, your question IS about the oneworld tool, rather than the oneworld user guide!

I've been playing around with your itinerary in the tool, and:

• IB only flies OSL-MAD on certain days of the week, and to get offered business class on the flight I needed to have IB as my preferred airline
• QR for OSL-DOH-PVG was offered, I just had to scroll down to see it (the tool displays in total travel time order, so there must be a lengthy layover in Doha on these flights - not a problem, just hang out the excellent Al Mourjan lounge)
• I could not get the tool to offer IB's UIO-MAD non-stop. I've no idea why.
• Total price is NOK95,416

PPT flights in OW RTW ticket
 

Is it possible to book flights in and out of PPT on a OW RTW ticket (there are AA code shares in from LAX and QF code shares to out Auckland) but the PPT airport doesn't come up in the online tool. has anyone had success booking in / out of PPT over the phone for a RTW booking?

Oneworld ExplorerGlobal Explorer

I think only Global Explorer fares allow you to book TN.

Edit: PandaPerth beat me to it!