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Originally Posted by calduffys
(Post 37626760)
Hello all, apologize if this was asked previously. I am transiting DOH towards the end of the month from JNB enroute to OSL to finish up a DONE4. Has there been any history of allowing itinerary changes and waiving change fee? We will likely change regardless, but curious if there are any data points from previous conflict zone airspace closures.
The waiver also mentions that it applies when you "Are traveling on an American Airlines flight" so I asked if it would apply to a QR flight number on QR metal (which is what my 4 segments are) and she said that it would because it is part of a RTW ticket issued by AA. The agent stated that they would waive the $125 change fee for changing dates, origins/destinations, and airlines so long as the flights fell within the waiver date limits. I don't know if you booked through the AA RTW desk, but the waiver details are here: https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/travel-alerts.jsp |
Originally Posted by PHLGovFlyer
(Post 37628704)
FWIW I called the AA RTW desk a few hours ago to remove four QR flights from my upcoming trip and replace them with AY and MH flights. The agent I spoke with mentioned that American has a travel waiver for flights that touch AUH, AMM, BAH, DOH, DXB, and LCA. The waiver states that it applies for flights through March 15th. The agent mentioned that the waver has been incrementally extended since it was first issued, and that she expected it would be extended roughly week by week until the mid-east situation was resolved.
The waiver also mentions that it applies when you "Are traveling on an American Airlines flight" so I asked if it would apply to a QR flight number on QR metal (which is what my 4 segments are) and she said that it would because it is part of a RTW ticket issued by AA. The agent stated that they would waive the $125 change fee for changing dates, origins/destinations, and airlines so long as the flights fell within the waiver date limits. I don't know if you booked through the AA RTW desk, but the waiver details are here: https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/travel-alerts.jsp |
I'm struggling with a RTW itinerary. I keep hitting a waitlist pop-up on flights between LAX and Tokyo (both HND and NRT) on the oneworld website. I tried flights on JAL and AA. EF was showing D class availability. It doesn't matter what date I select - nor the route - I seem to get the same error. I've tried SFO and DFW as alternatives and I get the same pop-up. I called BA. They sent the itinerary off to the 'back office' and never got back to me. Finnair said it wasn't possible to book a RTW ticket - they don't offer it. AA said that they could only accommodate 8 segments.
OSL-HEL-MIA-EZE-MIA-LAX-HND-PVG-HKG-SIN-DXB-HEL-OSL if that helps. Who best to call and ask? Palmer |
Originally Posted by Palmer
(Post 37634020)
I'm struggling with a RTW itinerary. I keep hitting a waitlist pop-up on flights between LAX and Tokyo (both HND and NRT) on the oneworld website. I tried flights on JAL and AA. EF was showing D class availability. It doesn't matter what date I select - nor the route - I seem to get the same error. I've tried SFO and DFW as alternatives and I get the same pop-up. I called BA. They sent the itinerary off to the 'back office' and never got back to me. Finnair said it wasn't possible to book a RTW ticket - they don't offer it. AA said that they could only accommodate 8 segments.
OSL-HEL-MIA-EZE-MIA-LAX-HND-PVG-HKG-SIN-DXB-HEL-OSL if that helps. Who best to call and ask? Palmer +1 800 247-3247 is their number |
Originally Posted by Palmer
(Post 37634020)
I'm struggling with a RTW itinerary. I keep hitting a waitlist pop-up on flights between LAX and Tokyo (both HND and NRT) on the oneworld website. I tried flights on JAL and AA. EF was showing D class availability. It doesn't matter what date I select - nor the route - I seem to get the same error. I've tried SFO and DFW as alternatives and I get the same pop-up. I called BA. They sent the itinerary off to the 'back office' and never got back to me. Finnair said it wasn't possible to book a RTW ticket - they don't offer it. AA said that they could only accommodate 8 segments.
OSL-HEL-MIA-EZE-MIA-LAX-HND-PVG-HKG-SIN-DXB-HEL-OSL if that helps. Who best to call and ask? Palmer |
Originally Posted by izzik
(Post 37634813)
Originally Posted by Palmer
(Post 37634020)
I'm struggling with a RTW itinerary. I keep hitting a waitlist pop-up on flights between LAX and Tokyo (both HND and NRT) on the oneworld website. I tried flights on JAL and AA. EF was showing D class availability. It doesn't matter what date I select - nor the route - I seem to get the same error. I've tried SFO and DFW as alternatives and I get the same pop-up. I called BA. They sent the itinerary off to the 'back office' and never got back to me. Finnair said it wasn't possible to book a RTW ticket - they don't offer it. AA said that they could only accommodate 8 segments.
OSL-HEL-MIA-EZE-MIA-LAX-HND-PVG-HKG-SIN-DXB-HEL-OSL if that helps. Who best to call and ask? Palmer CX SIN-HKG-DXB UL SIN-CMB-DXB WY SIN-MCT-DXB Stopovers in EU-ME? (continent of origin) DXB & DOH are in EU-ME https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Changi_Airport https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubai_...tional_Airport |
Originally Posted by PHLGovFlyer
(Post 37628704)
FWIW I called the AA RTW desk a few hours ago to remove four QR flights from my upcoming trip and replace them with AY and MH flights. The agent I spoke with mentioned that American has a travel waiver for flights that touch AUH, AMM, BAH, DOH, DXB, and LCA. The waiver states that it applies for flights through March 15th. The agent mentioned that the waver has been incrementally extended since it was first issued, and that she expected it would be extended roughly week by week until the mid-east situation was resolved.
The waiver also mentions that it applies when you "Are traveling on an American Airlines flight" so I asked if it would apply to a QR flight number on QR metal (which is what my 4 segments are) and she said that it would because it is part of a RTW ticket issued by AA. The agent stated that they would waive the $125 change fee for changing dates, origins/destinations, and airlines so long as the flights fell within the waiver date limits. I don't know if you booked through the AA RTW desk, but the waiver details are here: https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/travel-alerts.jsp |
Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
(Post 37634855)
QR SIN-DOH-DXB
CX SIN-HKG-DXB UL SIN-CMB-DXB WY SIN-MCT-DXB Stopovers in EU-ME? (continent of origin) DXB & DOH are in EU-ME https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Changi_Airport https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubai_...tional_Airport |
Originally Posted by izzik
(Post 37634813)
pretty sure oneworld doesn't fly that nonstop.
Palmer |
Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
(Post 37634855)
Stopovers in EU-ME? (continent of origin) DXB & DOH are in EU-ME
Palmer |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 37626972)
When COVID was causing chaos I recall airlines allowing great flexibility in itineraries to help get passengers to their destinations.
And I expect the same to happen now I should have been flying right now: KTI-DOH yesterday as part of my current RTW and then today a separate ticket DOH-NBO. But both flights were cancelled. I have rescheduled the KTI-DOH to next week, and have cancelled the onward flight If the airspace shutdown lasts too long I will request a free re-route (KTI-LHR via either HKG or KUL) My current itinerary starting June 1 is: OSL-xDOH-DUB-xDOH-DFW-SFO-ANC-SFO-JFK-DFW-SYD-HKG-NRT-KUL-BKK-DOH-OSL Any thoughts? |
Originally Posted by calduffys
(Post 37685313)
...snip...
My current itinerary starting June 1 is: OSL-xDOH-DUB-xDOH-DFW-SFO-ANC-SFO-JFK-DFW-SYD-HKG-NRT-KUL-BKK-DOH-OSL Any thoughts? and change the start to be: OSL-HEL/MAD/LHR-DFW (according to FlightConnections, AY flies HEL-DFW and AA flies MAD-DFW) |
Flights within NA
Recognising only one transcontinental flight across the USA is permitted, is .....DOH-LAX, LAX-JFK, JFK-HND .... valid ?
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Originally Posted by petez
(Post 37697090)
Recognising only one transcontinental flight across the USA is permitted, is .....DOH-LAX, LAX-JFK, JFK-HND .... valid ?
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Originally Posted by petez
(Post 37697090)
Recognising only one transcontinental flight across the USA is permitted, is .....DOH-LAX, LAX-JFK, JFK-HND .... valid ?
(k) Within the USA/Canada only one nonstop or single plane service transcontinental flight permitted. A transcontinental flight is defined as travel between a State in column A and a State in column B. COLUMN A Arizona, AZ California, CA Nevada, NV Oregon, OR Washington, WA COLUMN B Connecticut, CT Florida, FL Georgia, GA Indiana, IN Maryland, MD Massachusetts, MA New Jersey, NJ New York, NY North Carolina, NC Ohio, OH Pennsylvania, PA Michigan, MI South Carolina, SC Tennessee, TN Virginia, VA Washington DC Kentucky, KY |
Originally Posted by PHLGovFlyer
(Post 37698215)
The actual rule for North America transcon flights is:
Since neither DOH or HND is in any of those states (last I checked anyway - it's a strange world these days... :D) they aren't limited by the transcon flight rule. |
Originally Posted by PHLGovFlyer
(Post 37698215)
The actual rule for North America transcon flights is:
(k) Within the USA/Canada only one nonstop or single plane service transcontinental flight permitted. A transcontinental flight is defined as travel between a State in column A and a State in column B. |
Originally Posted by henry999
(Post 37698487)
Since column A and column B list only states, US states, why is there a reference to Canada in this rule?
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Originally Posted by link2
(Post 37698592)
I suspect it's probably there for historical reasons, back when oneworld still had a Canadian carrier! Pretty sure I've seen an older version of the rule that had Canadian locations in the list.
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Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 37698972)
More recently CX flew JFK-YVR-HKG, in 2013 I flew the JFK-YVR segment.
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I could be wrong but I think JFK<->MEX might be one of the longer non excluded routes. It’s also a pretty expensive route if you’re not on an rtw ticket.
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Originally Posted by donotblink
(Post 37699908)
I could be wrong but I think JFK<->MEX might be one of the longer non excluded routes.
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Originally Posted by Dr. HFH
(Post 37699353)
Although I never had occasion to fly it, I distinctly remember that route. It was popular because you could fly in the [then industry leading] CX F cabin for comparatively little and without leaving North America.
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Originally Posted by Dr. HFH
(Post 37699353)
Although I never had occasion to fly it, I distinctly remember that route. It was popular because you could fly in the [then industry leading] CX F cabin for comparatively little and without leaving North America.
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Originally Posted by link2
(Post 37698592)
I suspect it's probably there for historical reasons, back when oneworld still had a Canadian carrier! Pretty sure I've seen an older version of the rule that had Canadian locations in the list.
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Originally Posted by Franky The Anorak
(Post 37711544)
It used to cover the Cathay Pacific JFK-YVR and vv sectors.
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 37698972)
More recently CX flew JFK-YVR-HKG, in 2013 I flew the JFK-YVR segment.
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What are most people’s strategies for optimizing North America stopovers without doing more than one of the limited transcons? I've done JFK -> EGE -> LAX -> EGE -> MIA -> EGE -> JFK, which works well for me because I live in both Vail and NYC and Vail, CO and EGE flights are notoriously expensive. I also have another ticket where I'm doing a JFK <> MEX turn.
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optimizing for what? maximum flight distance?
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DFW-ANC and back is always a good turn for a mileage run.
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Thanks so much everyone for all your contributions from a few weeks' back about my inability to get additional flights on my oneworld Explorer ticket. They were really helpful and I thank you all. My main issue however was nobody at BA even having any knowledge of the oneworld Explorer ticket, never mind being able to help with changes. Two months on, and I thought you might like an update.
I finally got the final set of flights added to my ticket, after a total of 13–16 calls (I lost count) over three months. Progress only began when I started calling the BA Executive Club Silver member telephone number (I'd made the mistake of calling the general number at first), but even then, three out of four operators I spoke to had no knowledge of the oneworld Explorer ticket. They just blindly passed messages to and from "the pricing team", often getting the request wrong because they didn't understand what I was asking about. One operator even convinced me she did understand, but gave the game away by politely asking why on earth I wanted to put new flights on an existing ticket booking, which made no sense to her. When I explained why, she said it was "really interesting". Note that my flight additions were completely valid within the ticket rules, by the way, following the helpful comments here about possible problems. I just don't know why nothing ever got done with my requests. Four or five calls in a row ended with a promise that the operator was keeping an eye on things and would personally call me back within 3–4 days with an answer. No call ever came. This included the only operator who did know about the oneworld Explorer ticket – he told me that they only got "one or two enquiries a month" about changes to such bookings, so could I be understanding if staff didn't seem helpful. Then suddenly, after so many weeks and yet another call ending with a promise that they'd get things sorted, out of the blue I got a boilerplate email saying to call in to settle up money owed (which turned out to be the expected administration fee) ...and it was all done! Even on that final call, the operator didn't seem to understand what the administration fee was all about, but at least was able to accept it. So all's well that ends well. I am now composing my letter to BA about the saga. Not that I'm going to to complain (I'm quite aware that would go on a pile to be ignored), but to request that a dedicated line be made available where the operators were at least aware of the oneworld Explorer ticket, and why this would make business sense to them. If nothing else, it'll make me feel better. |
Originally Posted by ChristchurchParkBlue
(Post 37713364)
(...) to request that a dedicated line be made available where the operators were at least aware of the oneworld Explorer ticket, and why this would make business sense to them. If nothing else, it'll make me feel better.
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...because I was daft enough not to read this thread before booking! I know better for next time.
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BA used to have people with knowledge of these fares and they could be reached by email [email protected]. However, the last time I used them was some 10 years ago so I have no idea they are still there.
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Originally Posted by izzik
(Post 37712395)
optimizing for what? maximum flight distance?
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Originally Posted by izzik
(Post 37712395)
optimizing for what? maximum flight distance?
Originally Posted by donotblink
(Post 37713719)
Fair question …I would just say overall personal value.
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Originally Posted by Dr. HFH
(Post 37714035)
Then it will be hard for anyone but you to have a relevant opinion.
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Originally Posted by donotblink
(Post 37714047)
I didn't phrase it that well, but I was trying to understand what other people were getting significant value out of, to inspire my own future plans
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Originally Posted by donotblink
(Post 37714047)
I didn't phrase it that well, but I was trying to understand what other people were getting significant value out of, to inspire my own future plans
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My/our first Oneworld RTW (20 segments, paper tickets) started and ended in Istanbul, which was the cheapest of its day. Our aim was to see places on our wish list and to see some far flung family. However I also was keen to earn enough AA qualifying points (or "Q-points") to make Executive Platinum (OW Emerald) in AA's FFP.
This quest led to something of an epiphany as we tried to wrap everything up in one calendar year, the AA requirement. I did a trip report commemorating this dubious achievement. https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trip...urkey-day.html |
Originally Posted by R2
(Post 37713634)
BA used to have people with knowledge of these fares and they could be reached by email [email protected]. However, the last time I used them was some 10 years ago so I have no idea they are still there.
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