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link2 Oct 4, 2025 11:47 am


Originally Posted by littlevoices (Post 37347959)
I had this happen again, I debated with myself was it an agent problem, or are AA enforcing a new rule, did I misunderstand, or should I HUCA... The answer HUCA, and the next agent didn't invent her own rules and was fine. This was what the first agent tried to say no to:
OSL-DOH-HKG // HKG-DPS-HKG // HKG-AKL-NAN-MEL-HKG // HKG-SIN-HKG / HKG-JFK

The first AA agent said ""no stopover when going back to Asia"" as soon as I read out the return itinerary, we didn't even get to completing my route - i.e. I double confirmed with him that I could only do MEL-HKG-JFK as a layover of less than 24 hours, no stopover allowed. Anyway, I decided to drop the HKG-SIN-HKG segment to give myself a bit more flexibility on routes and do CMB rather than DPS with a longer return, which helped later on.

Ugh, was it by any chance an agent with a rather nasal voice? I think we must have had the same agent: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/37194039-post2898.html

I shudder to think of the amount of time that's been wasted and the number of people that have been misled by them.

fenx Oct 4, 2025 6:27 pm


Originally Posted by yitianjian (Post 37354380)
Are there no DONE3/4 fares being filed for CAI? Trying to book some combo of:
CAI-SFO
SFO-SYD
SYD-DPS
DPS-ATH

(obviously adding on ATH-CAI to make sure the flights align)
but online it’s pricing at 14k AUD

I didn’t double check D fare availability, but before I plan exact routes does this seem roughly possible?

I don't know if this is bookable, and searching for CAI brought up nothing. Hopefully one of the experts will chime in as this pricing seems too good to be true.

Fares for LXR to LXR on 11/05/25
Departing LXR on 11/05/25 for LXR
Viewing in currency USD
Searching in Business cabin

DONE3 AA D Round-Trip 2717.39(USD) B
DONE3 AS D Round-Trip 2717.39(USD) B
DONE3 MH D Round-Trip 2717.39(USD) B
DGLOB34 AA D Round-Trip 2947.32(USD) B

Edit:Upon studying further, I'm guessing the lack of OW flights to this airport (Vueling is the only possibility I might see) might kill it.

dvs7310 Oct 4, 2025 10:38 pm


Originally Posted by fenx (Post 37354891)
I don't know if this is bookable, and searching for CAI brought up nothing. Hopefully one of the experts will chime in as this pricing seems too good to be true.

Fares for LXR to LXR on 11/05/25
Departing LXR on 11/05/25 for LXR
Viewing in currency USD
Searching in Business cabin

DONE3 AA D Round-Trip 2717.39(USD) B
DONE3 AS D Round-Trip 2717.39(USD) B
DONE3 MH D Round-Trip 2717.39(USD) B
DGLOB34 AA D Round-Trip 2947.32(USD) B

Edit:Upon studying further, I'm guessing the lack of OW flights to this airport (Vueling is the only possibility I might see) might kill it.

Unfortunately you have found the answer to the question, it's not useable due to no OW airlines flying there. The same fare is still filed for the old Alexandria airport (ALY) but not for the new one HBE that actually does have a QR flight.

But it's a good one to keep in your back pocket in case a OW airline decides to fly there in the future.

wandering_fred Oct 5, 2025 7:35 am

You might find that BUD is an alternative starting point pricewise if Oslo is too far away.
Good luck with your wandering
Fred

MoodLighting Oct 5, 2025 8:47 am


Originally Posted by fenx (Post 37354891)
I don't know if this is bookable, and searching for CAI brought up nothing.

If you're using EF to search for ex-CAI RTWs you need to enter the carrier, otherwise you will get a nil return. The prices aren't appealing.

Cheapest DONE3 with BA/CX/QR is USD 7,306, before taxes etc.

Dr. HFH Oct 6, 2025 6:51 pm


Originally Posted by fenx (Post 37354891)
Edit:Upon studying further, I'm guessing the lack of OW flights to this airport (Vueling is the only possibility I might see) might kill it.


Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 37355088)
Unfortunately you have found the answer to the question, it's not useable due to no OW airlines flying there. The same fare is still filed for the old Alexandria airport (ALY) but not for the new one HBE that actually does have a QR flight.

But it's a good one to keep in your back pocket in case a OW airline decides to fly there in the future.

I think that OneWorld learned its lesson with this problem at SEZ.

glenny84 Oct 17, 2025 2:16 pm

I'm not sure if this is the right thread to ask this...sorry in advanced, but any tips for getting a FF# to show on our boarding passes? AS Sapphire here - our Sapphire status shows on the BA/AY/QF websites, allows us to select seats for free. AA RTW Desk issued ticket.

So far on this ticket, we've never been able to check in online for any of our segments. Today, flew on AY from HEL to ZRH. Checked in at the desk, they printed our boarding passes, but status/FF # did not print out. The agent removed our FF#, re-added it, could see the status, re-printed, and it still didn't show. She said that the FF# wasn't "activating"? I'm not 100% sure what this means. We've had this issue on our Qantas flights as well - the status shows on the Qantas website, but never does when we check-in. Thank you in advance.

littlevoices Oct 17, 2025 7:08 pm


Originally Posted by glenny84 (Post 37378159)
I'm not sure if this is the right thread to ask this...sorry in advanced, but any tips for getting a FF# to show on our boarding passes? AS Sapphire here - our Sapphire status shows on the BA/AY/QF websites, allows us to select seats for free. AA RTW Desk issued ticket.

So far on this ticket, we've never been able to check in online for any of our segments. Today, flew on AY from HEL to ZRH. Checked in at the desk, they printed our boarding passes, but status/FF # did not print out. The agent removed our FF#, re-added it, could see the status, re-printed, and it still didn't show. She said that the FF# wasn't "activating"? I'm not 100% sure what this means. We've had this issue on our Qantas flights as well - the status shows on the Qantas website, but never does when we check-in. Thank you in advance.

I've had this problem before, and despite numerous fixes (calls, sitting at the desk etc.) it really doesn't seem to be able to be fixed - it was particularly a problem with Qantas. My conclusion was that the Qantas system doesn't deal well with tickets with so many legs that have been reissued a few times. Unfortunately I never managed to fix it on the one RTW ticket that had this problem with Qantas - though Cathay was able to fix and add my FFP fairly easily for their leg (after Qantas), as was AA after significant effort from one agent for one leg (before Qantas). So I am afraid to say you may be stuck (or we can both learn what the real fix is), luckily in my case it happened after I had selected seats.

sydneyguy1234 Oct 27, 2025 6:02 am

I am in the middle of DONE4 and started to plan for the next one(again), going to start from OSL again and looking for the below routings, not so creative again but it pretty much covers the place i need to go.

OSL-xDOH-HKG-SYD-AKL-HKG-CTS-HKG-HND-JFK-SFO-xDOH-VIE-xDOH-OSL

Was thinking detour the HND-JFK sector as HND-HNL-DFW-JFK to pick up some more miles on the way to JFK but if I travel back to SFO whether this is considered as backtracking between Hawaii and other points in North America even i have a stopover in JFK?

pandaperth Oct 27, 2025 7:20 am


Originally Posted by sydneyguy1234 (Post 37393689)
I am in the middle of DONE4 and started to plan for the next one(again), going to start from OSL again and looking for the below routings, not so creative again but it pretty much covers the place i need to go.

OSL-xDOH-HKG-SYD-AKL-HKG-CTS-HKG-HND-JFK-SFO-xDOH-VIE-xDOH-OSL

Was thinking detour the HND-JFK sector as HND-HNL-DFW-JFK to pick up some more miles on the way to JFK but if I travel back to SFO whether this is considered as backtracking between Hawaii and other points in North America even i have a stopover in JFK?

No, it is not considered a backtrack
You will arrive in Hawaii from Asia, then continue on to Nth America, and do not return to Hawaii
So there is no backtrack.

spherehopper Oct 27, 2025 9:41 am


Originally Posted by sydneyguy1234 (Post 37393689)
I am in the middle of DONE4 and started to plan for the next one(again), going to start from OSL again and looking for the below routings, not so creative again but it pretty much covers the place i need to go.

OSL-xDOH-HKG-SYD-AKL-HKG-CTS-HKG-HND-JFK-SFO-xDOH-VIE-xDOH-OSL

Was thinking detour the HND-JFK sector as HND-HNL-DFW-JFK to pick up some more miles on the way to JFK but if I travel back to SFO whether this is considered as backtracking between Hawaii and other points in North America even i have a stopover in JFK?

I'm routing ... NAN-LAX-ANC-JFK-LAX-DFW etc for the miles and this also escaped the backtracking rule.

izzik Oct 27, 2025 3:32 pm


Originally Posted by spherehopper (Post 37394035)
I'm routing ... NAN-LAX-ANC-JFK-LAX-DFW etc for the miles and this also escaped the backtracking rule.

you're not traveling through Hawaii.. backtracking is not applicable at all.

spherehopper Oct 27, 2025 4:06 pm


Originally Posted by izzik (Post 37394728)
you're not traveling through Hawaii.. backtracking is not applicable at all.

My agent told me it was applicable for transcontinental sectors however ANC-JFK-LAX isn't viewed as such whereas LAX-JFK-SFO would be.


Mwenenzi Oct 27, 2025 5:17 pm


Originally Posted by spherehopper (Post 37394799)
My agent told me it was applicable for transcontinental sectors however ANC-JFK-LAX isn't viewed as such whereas LAX-JFK-SFO would be.

Consult the rules, and not a travel agent, 3015 4. FLIGHT APPLICATION / ROUTINGS
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...51ff64aa31.jpg
,

zoombee Oct 28, 2025 2:36 am


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 37394898)
Consult the rules, and not a travel agent, 3015 4. FLIGHT APPLICATION / ROUTINGS
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...51ff64aa31.jpg
,

Oh! When did lax/sfo to jfk drop off the list? I missed that. Very nice.

danger Oct 28, 2025 4:17 am


Originally Posted by zoombee (Post 37395496)
Oh! When did lax/sfo to jfk drop off the list? I missed that. Very nice.

California is in column A. New York is in column B.

Jun_Man Oct 28, 2025 5:12 am


Originally Posted by danger (Post 37395589)
California is in column A. New York is in column B.

Has it been determined one way or another how Alaska is treated? I’ve seen this discussed previously but haven’t (so far as I can recall) seen a confirmation from anyone that’s done it. Alaska is not in column A, so per the table ANC-JFK-SFO is allowed?

pandaperth Oct 28, 2025 6:53 am


Originally Posted by Jun_Man (Post 37395637)
Has it been determined one way or another how Alaska is treated? I’ve seen this discussed previously but haven’t (so far as I can recall) seen a confirmation from anyone that’s done it. Alaska is not in column A, so per the table ANC-JFK-SFO is allowed?

Re-read Mwenenzi 's post https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/37394898-post1174.html
It clearly states the rule for Alaska "Additionally, only one flight to State of Alaska and one flight from State of Alaska permitted."

Jun_Man Oct 28, 2025 7:13 am


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 37395741)
Re-read Mwenenzi 's post https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/37394898-post1174.html
It clearly states the rule for Alaska "Additionally, only one flight to State of Alaska and one flight from State of Alaska permitted."

Ah sorry, reading on a phone and didn’t see the text at the bottom. It seems counterintuitive that ANC-JFK doesn’t count as transcon, but happy days that it doesn’t!

zoombee Oct 29, 2025 3:12 am


Originally Posted by danger (Post 37395589)
California is in column A. New York is in column B.

Doh! I quick scanned for cities.

izzik Oct 29, 2025 9:38 am

In my limited experience, I feel like AS availability in D bucket is hard to come by.. and essentially nil during the summer months (peak Alaska tourist season).

anc305 Oct 29, 2025 11:48 am


Originally Posted by izzik (Post 37397859)
In my limited experience, I feel like AS availability in D bucket is hard to come by.. and essentially nil during the summer months (peak Alaska tourist season).

My experience also. The best bet is AA out of DFW to ANC . QR also codeshares on these flights and has " D " when connecting to DOH either coming or going. Travelling between DOH and Alaska during the summer months is a nice change of weather.

Dr. HFH Oct 29, 2025 7:32 pm

AA used to have nonstop LAX/MBJ service, and it wasn't on the prohibited list. Earned plenty of miles on that one until they figured it out and added it to the list, just before terminating the service altogether.

nufnuf77 Oct 30, 2025 1:49 am


Originally Posted by izzik (Post 37397859)
In my limited experience, I feel like AS availability in D bucket is hard to come by.. and essentially nil during the summer months (peak Alaska tourist season).

I recently booked a client on ANC JFK and there was 1 D seat for the whole month of August on the route

littlevoices Nov 2, 2025 1:00 am


Originally Posted by nufnuf77 (Post 37399078)
I recently booked a client on ANC JFK and there was 1 D seat for the whole month of August on the route

I booked Alaska/ANC for next July and saw the same problems on D class availability from AS (AA is just fine) particularly as I needed 4 seats. My notes were:
  • If you do ANC-DFW == No space, so do ANC-DFW/PDX/SEA-XXX == Space (pretty horrible to do two US domestics on one day/within 24 hours with young kids so I tried to avoid)
  • I ended up exiting via ORD and entering via SEA-DOH as I found a random set of seats - I actually changed my whole trip as originally I was going to do Asia - West Coast - ANC - East Coast - Doha. As a result of the availability challenge I switched to be HKG - JFK - ORD - ANC - SEA - DOH
  • I could have gotten DFW in there, but when you look at the distances the "optimal" route is really to go from JFK-LAX-ANC (better seats, more miles), but sadly I also struggled with the transcontinental as well

PHLGovFlyer Nov 12, 2025 10:41 am

QR interlining bags at MEL?
 
I'm looking at a DONEx trip where part of the routing is DOH-MEL on QR988 followed by MEL-ZQN on QF177. There's 1h35m between the arrival of the QR flight and departure of the QF flight. This would be purchased through the AA RTW desk. IME QR are unreliable in terms of interlining checked bags on separate tickets.

Am I crazy to attempt a 95 minute international to international connection at MEL?

Is a DONEx ticket across two airlines considered to be separate tickets for interlining bags? Or are DONEx legs all considered to be on one ticket?


Mwenenzi Nov 12, 2025 12:16 pm


Originally Posted by PHLGovFlyer (Post 37424217)
I'm looking at a DONEx trip where part of the routing is DOH-MEL on QR988 followed by MEL-ZQN on QF177. There's 1h35m between the arrival of the QR flight and departure of the QF flight. This would be purchased through the AA RTW desk. IME QR are unreliable in terms of interlining checked bags on separate tickets.

Am I crazy to attempt a 95 minute international to international connection at MEL?

Is a DONEx ticket across two airlines considered to be separate tickets for interlining bags? Or are DONEx legs all considered to be on one ticket?

All DONEx legs are considered to be on one PNR on a *ONE*. Bags will be interlined. Anyway QR interline bags on OW airlines when separate tickets, unlike AA & BA.
The airline would not have ticketed if not within the MCT (minimum connection time). If QR988 is about on time will be OK.. Will need to process an airside security check from MEL international arrivals to MEL international departures. AU immigration not required. Expect you will have time for a lounge visit - breakfast.

FT -- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ocea...transport.html
AU govt - https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visa...t-without-visa

pianoperson Nov 19, 2025 6:57 am

Clarification of RTW ticket validity
 
I started a OW RTW ticket on Feb 27th this year and what date can my final flight be on the ticket back to TYO from LHR ?
Is it on Feb 27th 2026 or does the flight have to land in TYO by Feb 27th 2026 at the latest
Am hoping that it is the former as ideally want to leave London for TYO on Feb 27th !
Many thanks

izzik Nov 19, 2025 1:10 pm


Originally Posted by pianoperson (Post 37436802)
I started a OW RTW ticket on Feb 27th this year and what date can my final flight be on the ticket back to TYO from LHR ?
Is it on Feb 27th 2026 or does the flight have to land in TYO by Feb 27th 2026 at the latest
Am hoping that it is the former as ideally want to leave London for TYO on Feb 27th !
Many thanks

One data point w/AA RTW desk: was able to book the last flight on the same day, one year later. ie, first flight departed 8/20/25 and final flight scheduled for 8/20/26 (arriving 8/21/26). good luck!

Dr. HFH Nov 19, 2025 6:31 pm


Originally Posted by pianoperson (Post 37436802)
I started a OW RTW ticket on Feb 27th this year and what date can my final flight be on the ticket back to TYO from LHR ?
Is it on Feb 27th 2026 or does the flight have to land in TYO by Feb 27th 2026 at the latest


Originally Posted by izzik (Post 37437461)
One data point w/AA RTW desk: was able to book the last flight on the same day, one year later. ie, first flight departed 8/20/25 and final flight scheduled for 8/20/26 (arriving 8/21/26). good luck!

From the Explorer rules:

7. MAXIMUM STAY
Return travel from the last stopover point must commence no later than 12 months after departure.

PHLGovFlyer Nov 20, 2025 4:29 am


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 37437954)
From the Explorer rules:

Interesting. So there could a theoretical RTW starting in OSL on November 22 2025 that has a stopover in AKL mid November 2026. Then the theoretical traveler could depart AKL on November 21 2026 and fly AKL-SYD-HND-HNL-LAX-JFK-EZE-MIA-DOH-OSL. So long as they spend less than 24 hours at all of those airports they could arrive at OSL sometime around November 29, or maybe later if the flight schedules allow, and still be within the letter of the rules.

ernestnywang Nov 21, 2025 4:07 pm


Originally Posted by PHLGovFlyer (Post 37438512)
Interesting. So there could a theoretical RTW starting in OSL on November 22 2025 that has a stopover in AKL mid November 2026. Then the theoretical traveler could depart AKL on November 21 2026 and fly AKL-SYD-HND-HNL-LAX-JFK-EZE-MIA-DOH-OSL. So long as they spend less than 24 hours at all of those airports they could arrive at OSL sometime around November 29, or maybe later if the flight schedules allow, and still be within the letter of the rules.

Even though the fare rule may give such impression, the system will not allow it, as the last sector needs to have an NVA (Not Valid After) on the same date, 1 year later than the date of your 1st sector. As long as the last sector departs on that day, it is fine. It can arrive 1 or 2 calendar days after.

PHLGovFlyer Nov 21, 2025 7:44 pm


Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 37441546)
Even though the fare rule may give such impression, the system will not allow it, as the last sector needs to have an NVA (Not Valid After) on the same date, 1 year later than the date of your 1st sector. As long as the last sector departs on that day, it is fine. It can arrive 1 or 2 calendar days after.

That certainly makes sense. Much more so than the open ended wording about "Return travel from the last stopover point must commence no later than 12 months after departure."

izzik Nov 21, 2025 9:42 pm

Pretty sure the people who wrote the rules weren't factoring in a crazy scenario like the one you posed.

Franky The Anorak Nov 22, 2025 7:04 am


Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 37441546)
Even though the fare rule may give such impression, the system will not allow it, as the last sector needs to have an NVA (Not Valid After) on the same date, 1 year later than the date of your 1st sector. As long as the last sector departs on that day, it is fine. It can arrive 1 or 2 calendar days after.

Correct.

So for an Australia originating XONEX ticket departing on 1st Jan 25 a passenger could fly QF2 LHR-SYD as their last sector departing on 1st Jan 26 even though it will arrive on 3rd Jan 26. Only the departure date and not the arrival date appears on the ticket. They could not however fly QF2 LHR-SIN departing on 1st Jan 26 connecting to QF52 SIN-BNE on 2nd Jan 26 as the 2nd Jan 26 date would be beyond the NVA date..

nufnuf77 Nov 22, 2025 7:11 am


Originally Posted by Franky The Anorak (Post 37442340)
Correct.

So for an Australia originating XONEX ticket departing on 1st Jan 25 a passenger could fly QF2 LHR-SYD as their last sector departing on 1st Jan 26 even though it will arrive on 3rd Jan 26. Only the departure date and not the arrival date appears on the ticket. They could not however fly QF2 LHR-SIN departing on 1st Jan 26 connecting to QF52 SIN-BNE on 2nd Jan 26 as the 2nd Jan 26 date would be beyond the NVA date..

yes entirely correct, NVB and NVA are per segment, and last segment would have to be on 1st jan

meowycrystal Dec 21, 2025 3:53 am

Hi, I’m trying to book my first RTW trip. Could someone please check this itinerary for me? It looks fine on this page, but when I try to select a flight, it won’t price correctly. Thanks in advance!

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...846ccc6fb2.png

DY444 Dec 21, 2025 4:02 am


Originally Posted by meowycrystal (Post 37493181)
Hi, I’m trying to book my first RTW trip. Could someone please check this itinerary for me? It looks fine on this page, but when I try to select a flight, it won’t price correctly. Thanks in advance!

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...846ccc6fb2.png

I'm no kind of expert but I would start by changing each instance of LON into a specific airport because AIUI arriving at say LHR and departing from LGW chews up a sector. Perhaps because the tool doesn't know which London airports are involved, it can't verify that you're not exceeding 4 sectors in the Europe/Middle East "continent"?

Franky The Anorak Dec 21, 2025 4:36 am


Originally Posted by meowycrystal (Post 37493181)
Hi, I’m trying to book my first RTW trip. Could someone please check this itinerary for me? It looks fine on this page, but when I try to select a flight, it won’t price correctly. Thanks in advance!

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...846ccc6fb2.png

The Oneworld booking tool is extremely buggy and regularly does not return what you want. However by the "(max 34000) miles" I suspect it is trying to book an XGLOB34 rather than a XONE3. You may be able to specify Oneworld Explorer under the Fare Eligibility tab top right. Otherwise clear your cache and try again. Alternatively if you are happy to fly the LHR-LAS sector under the AA Codeshare number the AA RTW Desk might well be your friend here.

Mwenenzi Dec 21, 2025 12:01 pm

More of a question for ---> https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onew...iences-79.html


Originally Posted by meowycrystal (Post 37493181)
Hi, I’m trying to book my first RTW trip. Could someone please check this itinerary for me? It looks fine on this page, but when I try to select a flight, it won’t price correctly. Thanks in advance!

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...846ccc6fb2.png

As above replace LON with LHR - LGW.
Not a very adventurous route. Flying BA will mean many surcharges. With 3 LHR departures/stop over will have a lot of UK APD.
A map from the Great Circle Mapper - Great Circle Mapper

HNL-HND non stop is flown by HA & JL. HNL-NRT by JL. HA brand, while owned by AS (oneword airline) is not an allowable airline. So need to go back to mainland USA, unless fly JL. HA brand is expected to join oneworld March 2026.
However when you buy a *ONE* the rules are locked in. That includes only the allowable airlines at that time. Cannot add/change to "new" airlines.

AA & AS (SABRE GDS) limit to booking flights 330 days out. AS is showing 18 Nov 2026 as latest for booking. Other airlines (Amadues) are about 365 days out.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...da9e5db70c.jpg





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