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Originally Posted by Hennebou
(Post 36820122)
I think the Qantas website has the 2023 version which removed those words.
Appreciate a direct link if possible. TIA |
Originally Posted by allset2travel
(Post 36821132)
Browsed around on QF web site in vain trying to find 2023 verson.
Appreciate a direct link if possible. TIA
Originally Posted by serfty
(Post 36813931)
Current rules are available via this page:
https://www.oneworld.com/round-the-world Open "What Are The Round The World Rules? +" And click the link for oneworld Explorer |
Originally Posted by allset2travel
(Post 36821132)
Browsed around on QF web site in vain trying to find 2023 verson.
Appreciate a direct link if possible. TIA Somehow I had found an old one on their website... |
Originally Posted by Hennebou
(Post 36821750)
Actually yes you have them here as well : https://assets.ctfassets.net/m9ph4qv...d-explorer.pdf
Somehow I had found an old one on their website... |
Originally Posted by Hennebou
(Post 36821750)
Actually yes you have them here as well : https://assets.ctfassets.net/m9ph4qv...d-explorer.pdf
Somehow I had found an old one on their website... Hence my advice to go via the oneworld web site to get the most up to date. |
Carrier imposed charges!
Firstly - thank you to Mwenenzi GinFizz and pandaperth and others for your helpful tips above on my proposed RTW itinerary. For a few different reasons we have largely decided to stick with our current plan. The AA RTW desk has validated this routing and is currently holding the following booking for us:
OSL-DOHx-SGN-PNH - Qatar Airways PNH-HAN - surface leg HAN-HKG-AKL - Cathay Pacific operated but booked on a QR code share AKL-SYD-HNL - Qantas HNL-DFWx-YVR - American Airlines YVR-LHR - British Airways LHR-DOHx-DXB - Qatar Airways DXB-LHRx-OSL - British Airways The pricing has also just come through - the base fare (£4,178) and lots of various taxes (total of £714) are broadly what I expected but the "other taxes and carrier imposed charges" are £1,998! Whilst I expected a certain level of taxes and carrier charges I am still quite surprised at how high these have ended up being. There are 3 adults and 1 child on this booking so the total carrier charges end up being a huge total amount for us. Curiously the "other taxes and imposed charges" for my 10 year old son are showing as an even higher £2,760.80 - which makes me think there must be an error at least in the child fare and perhaps also in the adult fares that have been presented to me? I am happy to change airlines etc if that helps the cost - also happy to adjust the overall itinerary also if it saves a meaningful amount of money (but do still want to ensure we get to Vietnam, AKL, HNL, YVR as a minimum - ideally also preserving DXB at the end which would be a separate trip later in the 12 month period for us). I have one spare segment left in the current booking and am also happy to drop SGN-PNH if it is helpful to have a further segment available to change the routing to reduce carrier charges. Not sure if this is relevant at all - but the AA desk insisted I pay in GBP as I am based in the UK - I had expected to have to pay in NOK (as it is an ex-OSL routing) and am happy to do that - wasn't sure if having to pay in GBP added to the overall cost in anyway? I had assumed the FX translation from NOK to GBP would be at normal FX rates. I'd hugely value any advice/tips on how I might be able to improve the overall cost. |
Originally Posted by Chesil
(Post 36825329)
Firstly - thank you to Mwenenzi GinFizz and pandaperth and others for your helpful tips above on my proposed RTW itinerary. For a few different reasons we have largely decided to stick with our current plan. The AA RTW desk has validated this routing and is currently holding the following booking for us:
OSL-DOHx-SGN-PNH - Qatar Airways PNH-HAN - surface leg HAN-HKG-AKL - Cathay Pacific operated but booked on a QR code share AKL-SYD-HNL - Qantas HNL-DFWx-YVR - American Airlines YVR-LHR - British Airways LHR-DOHx-DXB - Qatar Airways DXB-LHRx-OSL - British Airways The pricing has also just come through - the base fare (£4,178) and lots of various taxes (total of £714) are broadly what I expected but the "other taxes and carrier imposed charges" are £1,998! Whilst I expected a certain level of taxes and carrier charges I am still quite surprised at how high these have ended up being. There are 3 adults and 1 child on this booking so the total carrier charges end up being a huge total amount for us. Curiously the "other taxes and imposed charges" for my 10 year old son are showing as an even higher £2,760.80 - which makes me think there must be an error at least in the child fare and perhaps also in the adult fares that have been presented to me? I am happy to change airlines etc if that helps the cost - also happy to adjust the overall itinerary also if it saves a meaningful amount of money (but do still want to ensure we get to Vietnam, AKL, HNL, YVR as a minimum - ideally also preserving DXB at the end which would be a separate trip later in the 12 month period for us). I have one spare segment left in the current booking and am also happy to drop SGN-PNH if it is helpful to have a further segment available to change the routing to reduce carrier charges. Not sure if this is relevant at all - but the AA desk insisted I pay in GBP as I am based in the UK - I had expected to have to pay in NOK (as it is an ex-OSL routing) and am happy to do that - wasn't sure if having to pay in GBP added to the overall cost in anyway? I had assumed the FX translation from NOK to GBP would be at normal FX rates. I'd hugely value any advice/tips on how I might be able to improve the overall cost. Have checked the routing myself, if issued by AA / BA the total taxes are EUR3258 (excluding the base fare). Cathay Pacific slightly lower around EUR3150. If issued on QR they are EUR1985. The difference is the Carrier Imposed Charges. |
Originally Posted by dutch_122
(Post 36825601)
Have checked the routing myself, if issued by AA / BA the total taxes are EUR3258 (excluding the base fare).
Cathay Pacific slightly lower around EUR3150. If issued on QR they are EUR1985. The difference is the Carrier Imposed Charges. |
Originally Posted by Chesil
(Post 36825648)
Interesting - thanks. How can I organise for the ticket to be issued on QR?
TA or call QR. you cannot book this on the Oneworld Round the World tool, as they are not listed as ticketing carrier. |
Originally Posted by dutch_122
(Post 36825673)
TA or call QR.
you cannot book this on the Oneworld Round the World tool, as they are not listed as ticketing carrier. On the assumption it may be challenging to find anyone who can book this ticket on QR for me, are there any other pointers you or others may have that could help bring the overall carrier charges and taxes down? thanks |
Originally Posted by Chesil
(Post 36825792)
So I just called QR who said they can't book a OneWorld Explorer ticket and referred me to the OneWorld website instead! Is there anyone who has had success in booking a OneWorld Explorer ticket that was issued by QR? If so, who did you use to book this for you? Separately, are there any downsides to booking a ticket on QR? I'm also curious as to why such a big difference in carrier charges arise depending on which airline issues the ticket.
On the assumption it may be challenging to find anyone who can book this ticket on QR for me, are there any other pointers you or others may have that could help bring the overall carrier charges and taxes down? thanks Is there a reason why you are not considering using a travel agent? |
Originally Posted by izzik
(Post 36826143)
TA = travel agent
Is there a reason why you are not considering using a travel agent? |
Someone on this forum has offered their services for booking,if you want to explore that option.
Otherwise, I guess you'll just have to ask around. Good luck! https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onew...-services.html |
A novice question, but not one that I've been able to find a recent answer to: As it sounds like the US-based AA RTW ticket desk is a good place to start, what is the best telephone number for them?
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Originally Posted by europeanpete
(Post 36828778)
a novice question, but not one that i've been able to find a recent answer to: As it sounds like the us-based aa rtw ticket desk is a good place to start, what is the best telephone number for them?
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Originally Posted by Chesil
(Post 36828849)
1-800-247-3247
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Thanks guys. Greatly appreciated.
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Originally Posted by EuropeanPete
(Post 36828778)
A novice question, but not one that I've been able to find a recent answer to: As it sounds like the US-based AA RTW ticket desk is a good place to start, what is the best telephone number for them?
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 36829557)
And since the RTW desk is based in Dallas TX, it's best to phone during office hours in US Central time zone (GMT-6)
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Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 36829557)
And since the RTW desk is based in Dallas TX, it's best to phone during office hours in US Central time zone (GMT-6)
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Originally Posted by SirToby
(Post 36830456)
From my last interaction with them (about 3 weeks ago) I was told they are available from 7 AM to 10:30 PM CET, weekends might be slightly different.
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AA RTW Desk Hours:
M-F 0700-2230 CT S&S 0700-2000 CT |
Originally Posted by aaupgrade
(Post 36831048)
AA RTW Desk Hours:
M-F 0700-2230 CT S&S 0700-2000 CT |
Originally Posted by henry999
(Post 36831087)
Right. It was the 'CET' that was throwing me. Central European Time? Normal usage for North America is CST or CDT (summer).
I edited my post accordingly ;) |
From a very old thread(2008)
Outside the U.S. and Canada, call +1 817-267-1151 and ask for the Around The World Desk. Given that the local telephone provider is reluctant to connect to "free USA" numbers even at the overseas rate, does the 817 number still work? If it does it would help wandering Fred |
Originally Posted by wandering_fred
(Post 36832969)
Given that the local telephone provider is reluctant to connect to "free USA" numbers ...
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Originally Posted by wandering_fred
(Post 36832969)
Given that the local telephone provider is reluctant to connect to "free USA" numbers even at the overseas rate,
The AA RTW team is great, but their systems are terrible. I’d also recommend checking your itinerary periodically on the AA website. Airlines do mess around with their flights and it is not uncommon for the systems to fail to tell you. We had one QF flight depart unexpectedly early; and AS has messed us around several times. Each time the AA website went into ‘your reservation cannot be displayed at this time” and we had to call the RTW desk, usually then in turn requiring them to reticket. |
Originally Posted by henry999
(Post 36834394)
Fred, have you ever tried using Skype? Maybe it's different in Oz but at least from Europe, US 1-8xx numbers work flawlessly -- free and no 'credits' required. I've saved a pretty penny over the years doing that, rather than calling direct.
But yes somewhere my Skype account still exists. I am reasonably certain that the Australian direct number can transfer. Though one time I did do that it was regarding a different reservation not RTW. But back to my original question, does the AA 817 contact number still work? Perhaps I recall a time where there was simpler wandering Fred |
Originally Posted by Chesil
(Post 36826230)
No, I’d be happy to use a TA (assuming no material downsides of doing this). I’ve called a couple of travel agents today in the UK but neither of them could book a OneWorld Explorer ticket that was ex-Oslo. Happy to receive any recommendations if that is allowed on this forum.
Just surprised why they won't help / issue RTW ex-Oslo. |
Originally Posted by dutch_122
(Post 36836950)
Just surprised why they won't help / issue RTW ex-Oslo.
I’ve not used a TA for RTW - but one thing to check is how easily you can reach them if you need to make a change on a Sunday mid-journey (and whether they will charge a handling fee). |
Originally Posted by SP0
(Post 36837165)
Not enough margin in it? Or unwilling to book fares where payment is in non-local currrency?
I’ve not used a TA for RTW - but one thing to check is how easily you can reach them if you need to make a change on a Sunday mid-journey (and whether they will charge a handling fee). Sent him PM. Can book RTW within minutes when someone gives the rouitng, easy peasy. |
This may be a simple question but I could not find the answer with a search. On a OW Circle Pacific fare, do you need to begin and end in the same city, or the same country? I know with *A RTW for example, you can fly out of Los Angeles and end your trip in SF or any other US city.
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off topic for this thread
Originally Posted by launchylaunchbos
(Post 36845049)
This may be a simple question but I could not find the answer with a search. On a OW Circle Pacific fare, do you need to begin and end in the same city, or the same country? I know with *A RTW for example, you can fly out of Los Angeles and end your trip in SF or any other US city.
4. FLIGHT APPLICATION / ROUTINGS <snip> (f) Travel may originate at any point for which fares are published and must terminate at the same point, except that origin-destination surface segments are permitted as follows: a. within county of origin b. between USA and Canada NOTE: Mileage for origin-destination surface will be included in the total mileage (g) Travel may not be via the point of origin. (h) Travel is not permitted via any country in the South Asian subcontinent. (i) Surface travel and use of other carriers between intermediate points along the circle which are not operated by AA/AS/BA/CX/JL/MH/NU/QF/QR/RJ/UL is permitted at the passenger's expense and must be ticketed separately. Rules are on the OW web site. Can download as pdf |
Got a bit of time to arrange further travel plans for the year and figure out DONE4 might be too much for a first-timer so planned to stay within the northern hemisphere and some cost savings as well.
I am starting in HND again but looks visiting LAX could be an issue, again its build with so MR in mind for the new BA scheme and trying to check if it still fits the rules and appreciate for suggestion for the route change too. HND-CGK-HKG-SIN-DOH-MAD-DOH-CDG-DOH-LAX-DFW-HNL-LAX-SFO-JFK-HND |
Originally Posted by sydneyguy1234
(Post 36855683)
... HND-CGK-HKG-SIN-DOH-MAD-DOH-CDG-DOH-LAX-DFW-HNL-LAX-SFO-JFK-HND
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Originally Posted by sydneyguy1234
(Post 36855683)
HND-CGK-HKG-SIN-DOH-MAD-DOH-CDG-DOH-LAX-DFW-HNL-LAX-SFO-JFK-HND
Also, assuming that it's an MR, replace CDG with DUB and you'll pick up almost 500 miles. |
Originally Posted by sydneyguy1234
(Post 36855683)
HND-CGK-HKG-SIN-DOH-MAD-DOH-CDG-DOH-LAX-DFW-HNL-LAX-SFO-JFK-HND
I think you have one too many stopovers in Asia at the moment (CGK, HKG, SIN). You would need to make one a transit (i.e. depart within 24hrs of arriving) for it to work. |
Originally Posted by Dr. HFH
(Post 36855813)
Well, first, you've only used 15 segments, so you have one more available. But you'll have to see where you stand after you fix the DFW-HNL-LAX problem. Maybe add HKG-ICN, then ICN-DOH?
Also, assuming that it's an MR, replace CDG with DUB and you'll pick up almost 500 miles. HND-xCGK-HKG-SIN-DOH-MAD-DOH-CDG-DOH-LAX-DFW-ORD-MIA-DFW-SFO-JFK-HND |
Originally Posted by sydneyguy1234
(Post 36855961)
Missed the HNL rule and fine tuned stop over will be at HKG/SIN/MAD/CDG/LAX/MIA with a bit of MR in mind
HND-xCGK-HKG-SIN-DOH-MAD-DOH-CDG-DOH-LAX-DFW-ORD-MIA-DFW-SFO-JFK-HND |
sorry for asking but I have searched and cannot find - I saw a post somewhere where a person has built an excel sheet with all the Oneworld RTW costs when starting from different countries - can anyone post a link to this .xls as am keen to compare costs for starting location and class
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Originally Posted by moral_low_ground
(Post 36856629)
sorry for asking but I have searched and cannot find - I saw a post somewhere where a person has built an excel sheet with all the Oneworld RTW costs when starting from different countries - can anyone post a link to this .xls as am keen to compare costs for starting location and class
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