Re the TC1-TC2-TC3 routing rule, from the User Guide:

• You must visit all three Tariff Conferences – you will of course be starting in one of them, so you must visit the other two in order (travelling either eastbound or westbound), and complete your RTW journey by returning to your starting TC; generally you must return to your starting country (there are exceptions - see More Rule Details below for more information)
• ...

So for your itinerary, you are starting in TC2 then heading East to TC3 followed by TC1 and finally back to TC2. On your TC1-TC2 crossing you can most certainly fly US-Doha and, if you cared to, follow this with Doha-Africa-Doha before finally returning to the country of origin to complete the RTW

Hi again. Thanks for the replies to the extra questions.

Below is one of the options we’re considering, it still starts in OSL.

Thought is to break the trip at LHR (from CPT) then do LHR>DOH>OSL at a later date to complete the RTW and use all 16 segments. Based on the comments above, this should be allowable as we would just transit again through DOH?

Thanks again for all the help. 😀

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Potential RTW route

As you know, you are allowed only two stopovers in your continent of origin.
So provided your first visit to London is only a transit (meaning not more than 24hrs) and that your first visit to Doha is also only a transit,
Then you can stopover in both London and Doha at the end of your RTW

I hope you enjoy your retirement trip :tu:

Brilliant, that’s what I thought but good to get confirmation👍

I’m sure we will enjoy it. We have decided to increase the duration to almost 6 weeks, so we get a bit more time in a few locations. Not backtracking across the US in the above plan has given us extra segments elsewhere, at the compromise of accepting the standard AA or AS business product. Tour Approvals Officer is not keen on going to NYC via DOH from OSL (despite the benefits of QR) and we will have to ‘suffer’ some BA CW (but will look for Club Suite options like from CPT to LHR). She did however say good, now she can go to Disneyland, Tokyo Disney and Hong Kong Disney!🙄

And I thought it was my trip!?🤔……….…..I will however hopefully, get to an NFL game in both NJ and LA based on our proposed dates?

Thanks for all the help so far, it’s been invaluable.

Oh, and good luck to the Toffees later! 😉

Don’t let her forget DisneySea in Tokyo then 😜
The Tokyo parks are the best in the world (apart from probably language barriers).

Is she nervous about flying to the country of Qatar? I would think if she tried flying Europe to the U.S. on QR she'd be hooked.

Did that when we were there for the World Cup in 2002, although I suspect it’s changed since then? One park will be quite enough, I’d rather Universal if I had a choice! 😏

Not nervous, just not keen on flying 7 hours the wrong way as she sees it. I have a job convincing her to fly from MAN, even when it offers a substantial saving over LHR for TATL and have given up on trying to argue for exEU, but OSL is ok here as its another ‘holiday’, plus it saves a few bob on the RTW. Haven’t given up yet though on via DOH to JFK.

Alan T
I've been looking at timetables, and I think your SWMBO has a valid point.
OSL-LHR-JFK will be a flying time of 2:30+7:45=10:15, and with whatever transit time you want since there are so many options for the two flights
Whereas
OSL-DOH-JFK is 6:30+14:15=20:45 flying time pus an overnight 8:50 in transit, for a total elapsed time of 29:35. Perhaps not the best way to start an around the world journey? And you will be flying QR later on anyway.

Of course, there are some of us here on Flyer Talk (me included :D) who would jump at the Qatar Airways option. Perhaps we're mad?

No, I don’t think you’re mad at all, I can see the attraction depending on circumstances. Hopefully QR will put QSuite back on the HKG flights as it looks like they are not flying that currently according to some sources? I will get the Expert Flyer subscription sorted as we move towards booking as that looks a great one stop resource.

Now need to switch focus to our trip next month, to Alaska and back on BA and AS via SEA

Thanks again for all the help here.

Another reason to have an Expert Flyer subscription is that you can get accurate seat maps of any flight. It's the most reliable way to tell if a QR flight has Qsuite, or a BA flight has old Club World or new Club Suite. (I believe seat maps are available for free.)

Does anyone know if Turkïye is middle east or Europe? I have an ex-CAI DONE5 that I'm trying to finish LHR-AMM-IST but apparently can only do LHR-IST-AMM due to question above. Essentially trying to avoid BA/club Europe here with RJ.

Can't see any mention in the rules so would appreciate if anyone has a definitive source.

Thanks in advance!

Turkey is included in Europe.

Thanks! LHR-IST-AMM it is. I just found 2 RJ J rewards AMM-LHR via BA for Easter Monday so going to book that in and that's what I call a wrap! :)

As an extension to this, I had an itinerary CAI-xCMN-JFK-DCA-DFW-MEL-xSYD-(SIN-MLE)-xDOH-SEZ-xDOH-LHR-DOH which I've asked to be changed to:
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CAI-xCMN-JFK-DCA-DFW-MEL-xSYD-SIN-xCMB-MLE-xDOH-SEZ-DOH-LHR-IST-AMM which I was told was valid and sent off for pricing.

Now they've come back they want ~£740pp including the ~£101 change fee.

Question is - does this sound right? Calculating the added taxes via ITA Matrix for IST-AMM comes to about £100pp and SIN-xCMB-MLE about £60pp. I haven't done LHR-IST but considering I had already paid APD for LHR-DOH I can't imagine it being a lot more.


Additionally this is before the first segment, so I'm expecting a reprice but looking at EF I can see the DONE5 fare CAI-CAI filed on 26/12/23 is the same price I had paid originally (or very very close, the 145k EGP translates to ~£20 or so difference via Google rate).

In total including change fees I'd expect somewhere around £600 or less for 2 rather than the £1400 they want. I did indeed call AA RTW desk and spent 40 minutes on hold where they said they were on the phone with pricing but they ended up hanging up on me :( Calling back they said they would raise it with pricing and I should call back tomorrow.

What's my best course of action here? Or am I really missing something that will make it cost that much?

Thank you all for the continued advice :)

Edit: by my own calculations of the changed segments I found that this change would have been £1 or so due to reduction of YQ DOH-LHR and APD from £191 to £26 however after pressing with AA they are certain it's correct so I've had to pay it anyway.

That said, I have the fare tax calculation figures, can anyone make more sense of it than me?

Old ticket:

Fare : EGP 145000.00
Taxes : 521.70 YQ 309.60 YR 47.50 XT
Fare Calculation: CAISEZDOHLONDOH4785.47NUC4785.47END ROE30.30 XT41.10YR4.70AY1.70PZXFDFW4.5PD191.00GB55.81UB10.9 0EG4.10XK20.90QH1.40JK1.70EQ19.70MA35.40US5.50YC5. 90XY3.20XA9.40AY33.40AU8.80QR3.60WG31.90WY50.20BQ5 0.20H927.60QA.80PZ27.60G441.80DW.40O2.80O94.60R91. 70S412.5


New ticket:
Fare : EGP 145000.00
Taxes : 722.20 YQ 350.70 YR 678.90 XT
Fare Calculation 0NUC0END ROE30.30XT304.30YQ255.70YR41.20ZZ27.00SG6.70L75.00 OP17.80TR2.70M62.10O712.60P13.80XFDFW4.5PD14.10AY2 .50PZ26.00GB55.81UB10.90EG4.10XK20.90QH1.40JK1.70E Q19.70MA35.40US5.50YC5.90XY3.20XA33.40AU8.80QR50.2 0BQ50.20H927.60QA27.60G441.80DW.40O2.80O94.6

I​​​​s there any way I can estimate the taxes using ITA to calculate on 001 stock?

Additionally, am I correct in the total ticket value should be the fare + the taxes? At 145000EGP (~3778GBP), £720.2 YQ, 350.7 YR, 678.9 XT that comes to £5527.8 pp however my credit card charges (there has been multiple due to them saying there is technical limitations with EGP) comes to £6258.61 which is more than what it says?

Would appreciate anyone's advice again on this because if I've overpaid £629.81pp taking into account the change fee I would very much like it back.