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Originally Posted by Alan T
(Post 35163293)
One thing the OW tool, despite its imitations has demonstrated, is we can do this in the timescale, subject to future schedules etc. We will have to balance time in the air, time on the ground and the TP earningin the 4-5 weeks, so it will be a compromise anyway.
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The Tour Approvals Officer is the spreadsheet specialist in the family and I have passed your suggestions to her. 😉
We really like the order of the Asian cities and Australia/NZ in pandaperths plan. Would it be allowable to route AKL>HKG>CPT(via DOH)>OSL(via LHR or DOH) as the tool says this is against the rules, 2 stops in Europe or Middle East not allowed if traveling to South Africa? I can only see Europe mentioned on the OneWorld website? |
Originally Posted by Alan T
(Post 35166792)
Would it be allowable to route AKL>HKG>CPT(via DOH)>OSL(via LHR or DOH) as the tool says this is against the rules, 2 stops in Europe or Middle East not allowed if traveling to South Africa? I can only see Europe mentioned on the OneWorld website?
E. ONLY ONE INTERCONTINENTAL DEPARTURE AND ONE INTERCONTINENTAL ARRIVAL PERMITTED IN EACH CONTINENT EXCEPT AS FOLLOWS - 1. TWO PERMITTED IN NORTH AMERICA. 2. TWO PERMITTED IN ASIA. 3. TWO PERMITTED IN EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST FOR TRAVEL TO/FROM/VIA AFRICA. IF TRAVEL IS TO/FROM EUROPE IN BOTH DIRECTIONS ITINERARY MAY NOT INCLUDE MAURITIUS/SOUTH AFRICA. |
Originally Posted by anabolism
(Post 35167189)
There's a restriction in the rules regarding stopping in Europe twice to/from South (another reason why an EF subscription is so handy: it provides fares and fare rules):
So I think you might be OK if you went to South Africa to or from Asia or Australia one way, and Europe the other. That’s how I read it, so I was trying AKL>HKG>CPT(via DOH)>LHR>OSL. I was thinking of breaking the trip at LHR and doing a short trip to Oslo later in the year with the last segment, but the tool does not like it!? |
Originally Posted by Alan T
(Post 35167258)
Thanks.
That’s how I read it, so I was trying AKL>HKG>CPT(via DOH)>LHR>OSL. I was thinking of breaking the trip at LHR and doing a short trip to Oslo later in the year with the last segment, but the tool does not like it!? |
Originally Posted by jerry a. laska
(Post 35167375)
How many stopovers will you already have in EUR/ME up to that point?
Plan is to start in OSL, then to NYC via LHR but no stopovers, just a connection. |
Originally Posted by Alan T
(Post 35166792)
The Tour Approvals Officer is the spreadsheet specialist in the family and I have passed your suggestions to her. 😉
We really like the order of the Asian cities and Australia/NZ in pandaperths plan. Would it be allowable to route AKL>HKG>CPT(via DOH)>OSL(via LHR or DOH) as the tool says this is against the rules, 2 stops in Europe or Middle East not allowed if traveling to South Africa? I can only see Europe mentioned on the OneWorld website? Two of the rules of the ticket are in play here: Rule 8 Stopovers A maximum of two stopovers are allowed in the continent of origin (Europe/Middle East in your case) Second Visits to a Continent - Rule 4(e)This rule allows for second visits to each of the three northern hemisphere continents. In the case of Europe/Middle East: the rules split the continent into two zones - Europe and the Middle East and says if you want to travel to Africa from the Europe Zone AND return from Africa to the Europe Zone then you cannot include South Africa or Mauritius in your itinerary. (the rule doesn't mention stopovers at all, therefore the normal stopover rule 8 applies) You are proposing to travel to Africa from the Middle East Zone and return from Africa to either the Europe Zone or the Middle East Zone Therefore you can include South Africa (and/or Mauritius). The online tool is very buggy, so never takes its word when it says an itinerary is invalid! (But I've just plugged your itinerary into the tool and it says it's valid!) The full fare rules are available on the Oneworld web site, the User Guide tells you how to find them. Provided you haven't stopped over twice in Doha (!), you can stopover in London after Africa (or before Africa, if you fly HKG-LHR-CPT-DOH-OSL, or both before and after Africa if you don't stopover in Doha at all and you fly HKG-LHR-CPT-DOH-LHR-OSL :D). In your first post you asked about the optimum time to book. I don't think there is one. As Mwenenzi posted, 'D' space can sometimes be hard to get, so booking earlier rather than later might be indicated - however my two most recent RTWs I booked 6 days and 10 days before their first flights without any problems. ETA: A reason for booking earlier than later in these inflationary times is the possibility of fares increases. (For interest, I checked ex-Norway fares, and they are cheaper now than they were back in 2012 !!!) |
Originally Posted by Alan T
(Post 35167561)
None.
Plan is to start in OSL, then to NYC via LHR but no stopovers, just a connection. |
Originally Posted by Alan T
(Post 35167258)
That’s how I read it, so I was trying AKL>HKG>CPT(via DOH)>LHR>OSL. I was thinking of breaking the trip at LHR and doing a short trip to Oslo later in the year with the last segment, but the tool does not like it!?
QR also fly into other UK airports. Not just LHR A map from the Great Circle Mapper - Great Circle Mapper |
Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
(Post 35167711)
Need to write out the complete route and check against the rules. AKL-HKG-CPT-DOH-LHR-OSL [the[i] "via" will trap you some time]
QR also fly into other UK airports. Not just LHR A map from the Great Circle Mapper - Great Circle Mapper Checking Expert Flyer it looks like CX has not yet returned to Cape Town, but it is flying to JNB ETA: On second thought, this is not an option - because of the rule regarding a second visit to Asia, which is "Two permitted in Asia when one is for travel between the Southwest Pacific and Europe/Middle East." AlanT's first visit will be from Nth America to SWP, and the second from SWP to Africa - so not allowed. |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 35167651)
Qatar Airways business class is far superior to British Airways business class (OSL-DOH-JFK)
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Originally Posted by anabolism
(Post 35167888)
OSL-DOH is likely a 1-2-1 configuration, much nicer than BA Club Europe,
Due to a medical problem we reached OSL checkin 60 seconds after the desk closed and the local agency staff were absolutely horrible: cold, unwilling to help, refused to call the QR manager. Eventually we did get them to consult QR and the manager was exceptionally helpful, reassuring and professional; he even came down on a scooter to reassure us as we rushed from security to the gate (which was, as always happens when things go awry, the very most distant one). Huge bonus points to QR but not their local Norwegian agent sadly. We have moved QR to the top of our favourite list. |
Having just said how much I like QR , that made me think: if I go OSL-LHR-xDOH-SYD then US then LHR-OSL, is it allowed to do the US-UK bit back through DOH on QR? I think we are allowed to go through DOH twice because one is a direct flight to S Pacific, but would it violate the continuous TC1-2-3 rule?
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Originally Posted by SP0
(Post 35167966)
Having just said how much I like QR , that made me think: if I go OSL-LHR-xDOH-SYD then US then LHR-OSL, is it allowed to do the US-UK bit back through DOH on QR?
Originally Posted by SP0
(Post 35167966)
I think we are allowed to go through DOH twice because one is a direct flight to S Pacific, but would it violate the continuous TC1-2-3 rule?
There is no limitation on how many times you can go through DOH, the only limitation that might cause some issues is you can't fly the same city pair in the same direction more than once. Also, since Europe is your originating continent you are only allowed two stopovers in Europe. |
Originally Posted by SP0
(Post 35167966)
Having just said how much I like QR , that made me think: if I go OSL-LHR-xDOH-SYD then US then LHR-OSL, is it allowed to do the US-UK bit back through DOH on QR? I think we are allowed to go through DOH twice because one is a direct flight to S Pacific, but would it violate the continuous TC1-2-3 rule?
My record is four times, back in 2015 JNB-xDOH-EZE......BKK-xDOH-CMN-xDOH-OSL-xDOH-NBO :D As anabolism said, there is no restriction on the number of stopovers/transits you can have at any point (other than the point of origin - no stopovers or transits allowed there) |
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