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R2 Feb 22, 2023 1:32 am


Originally Posted by Irish lad (Post 35029487)
I'm considering a AONE3 ticket starting in Tokyo. I've booked quite a few of these in previous years (pre-Covid) through the Cathay Pacific Tokyo office with no issues. However, upon contacting them this time, they rather unhelpfully told me to try using the Oneworld website first (although they offered to assist if "any error message or problem"). Assuming I can find the routing I want on the explorer tool, my main concern would be future changes to dates (definitely will happen) and/or routing.(possibly). Has anyone used the online booking tool in the past and been able to receive assistance from an airline (whether Cathay or another) at a later date please? Any other advice appreciated. Many thanks.

If you manage to book and buy a RTW ticket using the online tool, it will be ticketed by a oneworld airline (typically the one that has the first segment in the ticket). You would have bought the ticket from this airline and have a contract with them. You need to contact them for any changes. The other airlines you have flights with typically would refuse to touch the ticket unless it is a last minute flight cancellation/delay leading to involuntary rerouting.

LeSouris Feb 22, 2023 1:38 am


Originally Posted by R2 (Post 35031334)
If you manage to book and buy a RTW ticket using the online tool, it will be ticketed by a oneworld airline (typically the one that has the first segment in the ticket).

Yes. Another option is to give up on the bug-filled tool and have AA’s specialist RTW desk do it - especially if you have an intercontinental AA flight somewhere in your itinerary (I’ve not tried without). I am doing an ex-OSL RTW bought that way shortly. Finnair is the first carrier but refused to assist with a RTW booking; and the tool would not correctly validate the route. AA were very professional and knowledgeable.

Clairus Feb 22, 2023 3:49 am


Originally Posted by Clairus (Post 35012802)
Thanks everyone - this is super helpful, some great tweaks here and i'll definitely take a subscription on ExpertFlyer - great tip

Hi again

I've been finessing my trip thanks to your advice and expert flyer, and before I call to get it booked, I wanted to check that this itinerary wouldn't fall foul of any rules

OSL-DOH-KUL-DPS-MEL-NAN-SYD-SIN-HKG-KIX-HNL-LAX-BOS-LHR-OSL

anabolism Feb 22, 2023 8:06 pm


Originally Posted by Clairus (Post 35031510)
OSL-DOH-KUL-DPS-MEL-NAN-SYD-SIN-HKG-KIX-HNL-LAX-BOS-LHR-OSL

You've got two unused overall segments and four unused North America segments. I'd change BOS-LHR to BOS-DFW/ORD-LAX-LHR. LAX-LHR is a much nicer flight if you'll be in J or F.

You have two visits to Asia, which is fine since one is for transt between Europe/Middle East and South West Pacific, but I'm not 100% sure if you can have two stopovers in that transit.

skipaway Feb 23, 2023 10:55 am


Originally Posted by SP0 (Post 35031339)
Yes. Another option is to give up on the bug-filled tool and have AA’s specialist RTW desk do it - especially if you have an intercontinental AA flight somewhere in your itinerary (I’ve not tried without). I am doing an ex-OSL RTW bought that way shortly. Finnair is the first carrier but refused to assist with a RTW booking; and the tool would not correctly validate the route. AA were very professional and knowledgeable.

I've given up on the oneworld site's two booking options.. I have two questions: My first flights are CAI-CMN-DFW-ICT. Through Expert Flyer, I've found D inventory on CMN-DOH-DFW. The QR flight to DFW has an AA codeshare. Would the RTW desk likely look at this as an AA flight? (I can try to book TPAC on AA, too.)
If I try to find a travel agent to book this, will all future date changes have to go through that TA, or could I deal with AA, the airline I hope to be ticketing trip?

skunker Feb 23, 2023 7:01 pm


Originally Posted by jerry a. laska (Post 35020080)
I'm not sure why you think AA won't quote ex-Egypt fares. The restriction on starting country and selling country was removed from the rules sometime ago. Just ask them.

AA codeshares on QR DOH-DFW so that might be an option. By overwater, what is usually meant is intercontinental but someone recently posted that AA issued an xonex recently w/o any of those segments:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/34918618-post1088.html

Because AA RTW desk stopped selling ex-Egypt tickets a few years ago.

Viajero Millero Feb 23, 2023 7:09 pm

Looking at a DONE 4 ex-CAI and needing to start westbound. Couple of questions:

A. If I don't want to burn my Europe/Middle Eastern stop or visit to start. I understand I must do CAI-DOH/AMM/CMN/LHR-USA/GRU with a <24hr transit in DOH/AMM/CMN/LHR?
Because If I try something like CAI-DOH-MAD-EZE I would have visited Europe and at the end backend of the RTW I'd only be able to transit through it on my way back to CAI (or whatever other ME final destination?)

C. If I end up doing CAI-DOH-MIA-EZE/GRU and the MIA is a transit under 24hr, would that mean I can then go up EZE/GRU-DFW and have 5 segments remaining for use within NA?
Or in case that MIA stop is over 24hrs would I have burned my NA segments and when I go back up EZE/GRU-DFW then that stop in DFW would have to be under 24hr before continuing to Asia/Australia?

Thanks for the clarifications.

anabolism Feb 23, 2023 7:16 pm


Originally Posted by skipaway (Post 35035666)
I've given up on the oneworld site's two booking options.. I have two questions: My first flights are CAI-CMN-DFW-ICT. Through Expert Flyer, I've found D inventory on CMN-DOH-DFW. The QR flight to DFW has an AA codeshare. Would the RTW desk likely look at this as an AA flight? (I can try to book TPAC on AA, too.)

I'm sure the Aa RTW desk would be happy to book the QR flight as an AA code. Just as a note, when I've had AA codeshares operated by QR, I've had difficulty assigning Qsuite center seats (QR blocks them so AA can't assign them, and the QR web page and app balked at assigning seats on an AA code, and I even had QR phone agents claim they couldn't touch the booking.)

Originally Posted by skipaway (Post 35035666)
If I try to find a travel agent to book this, will all future date changes have to go through that TA, or could I deal with AA, the airline I hope to be ticketing trip?

AA can redirect you to your agency, but in my experience the RTW desk usually is happy to make changes provided the itinerary is on an AA ticket. You might try American Express travel; in my experience, they will create the record and queue it to AA for pricing, just as the AA RTW desk does. I thnk they are still waiving their fees, at least for some cardholders.

Viajero Millero Feb 25, 2023 7:53 am


Originally Posted by Viajero Millero (Post 35036797)
Looking at a DONE 4 ex-CAI and needing to start westbound. Couple of questions:

A. If I don't want to burn my Europe/Middle Eastern stop or visit to start. I understand I must do CAI-DOH/AMM/CMN/LHR-USA/GRU with a <24hr transit in DOH/AMM/CMN/LHR?
Because If I try something like CAI-DOH-MAD-EZE I would have visited Europe and at the end backend of the RTW I'd only be able to transit through it on my way back to CAI (or whatever other ME final destination?)

C. If I end up doing CAI-DOH-MIA-EZE/GRU and the MIA is a transit under 24hr, would that mean I can then go up EZE/GRU-DFW and have 5 segments remaining for use within NA?
Or in case that MIA stop is over 24hrs would I have burned my NA segments and when I go back up EZE/GRU-DFW then that stop in DFW would have to be under 24hr before continuing to Asia/Australia?

Thanks for the clarifications.

​​​​​​I called in and Janet helped me set it up.

Looks like a stopover is allowed on the way out and in. DONE4. Itinerary was placed on hold successfully like this:

CAI-DOH-MAD-EZE-JFK-MEX-LAX-ANC-DFW-ICN-HKG-SIN-HND-BKK-HEL-CDG-DOH

MAD and CDG are both stopovers of +24hr.

Now to figure out what the hit will be in taxes and surcharges.

Viajero Millero Feb 25, 2023 10:27 am

Got the quote. Around 6,150 USD. Over 800 USD in surcharges despite avoiding LHR and British. Didn't realize IB YQs were this dirty.

Is it a coincidence both surcharges of MAD-EZE and LHR happen to add up to $583?

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a801af3e97.png

Calchas Feb 25, 2023 10:52 am

BA isn't the only carrier charging YQ or YR. IB, AY, RJ, are all in on the game.

Viajero Millero Feb 25, 2023 12:17 pm

Aware. For example RJ's for a AMM-ORD is around $300. AY for HEL-DFW is about $230.

Just wasn't expecting Iberia to pull a full BA :td:

LeSouris Feb 25, 2023 4:28 pm


Originally Posted by Viajero Millero (Post 35040969)
Got the quote. Around 6,150 USD. Over 800 USD in surcharges despite avoiding LHR and British.

Doesn’t surprise me. My RTW just bought (ex OSL) had USD898 taxes and charges on it.

Mind you I had a bit of a panic when I saw this:

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...53cedee00.jpeg


Oops, someone forgot to include the right currency sign (NOK in this case) :-)

Cashew1977 Feb 26, 2023 1:59 am

Whats the best way to get in touch with the AA RTW desk? Looking to book an ex HND DONE4 and the tool is hopeless!! thanks

LeSouris Feb 26, 2023 2:34 am


Originally Posted by Cashew1977 (Post 35042494)
Whats the best way to get in touch with the AA RTW desk?

I don’t know whether their number is public. But if you poke around in this forum you will find it - that’s what I did.


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