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ernestnywang Feb 12, 2023 4:24 pm


Originally Posted by Calchas (Post 35004145)
The currency of fares filed from a particular city is set by IATA, I don't think(?) the airline can choose to file in a different currency.

I believe airlines are allowed to file fares in a different currency if they want to. I did a random search on CZ fares from CAI to CAN, and the cheapest fare is filed in AED.

petez Feb 13, 2023 2:58 am


Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 35006452)
Validating carrier QR yields the lowest amount, as only QR, BA, and MH YQ/YR are collected. Please note though I have heard from another FTer that at least one of the QR offices calculates segment by segment manually, resulting in a much higher amount. YMMV, perhaps with a different QR office.

Hi,

Many thanks for this - much appreciated. I have only ever booked a RTW with BA (directly). Would I just call QR or is it best via a TA ? I've seen lots of comments about poor QR call centre customer service.

LeSouris Feb 13, 2023 3:12 am


Originally Posted by petez (Post 35007405)
I have only ever booked a RTW with BA (directly). Would I just call QR or is it best via a TA ?

Not sure about this particular pricing, but typically for a RTW I make an international call to the airline with whom my first flight will be, in the country where that flight takes off from (eg Norway). Some how that seems cleaner than persuading a UK agent to sell a ticket originating in OSL etc. Note that if you buy a ticket internationally like that, you will need a credit card that doesn't add a foreign exchange margin.

I suspect in your case I'd try QR locally, and if that doesn't work then QR in Qatar (assuming the outstation has a different call centre, for some airlines this is the case and for some it just routes to the nightshift in the centre).

If your journey uses AA on one of the over-ocean legs you can also get great service from AA's specialist RTW desk.

ernestnywang Feb 13, 2023 10:52 am


Originally Posted by petez (Post 35007405)
Hi,

Many thanks for this - much appreciated. I have only ever booked a RTW with BA (directly). Would I just call QR or is it best via a TA ? I've seen lots of comments about poor QR call centre customer service.

You are welcome. In my experience, a TA can only issue an RTW using QR plate if QR has the first inter-TC segment (TPAC, TATL, or Europe/ME-Asia/Aus), so the autoprice default to QR as the validating carrier. You can try asking a different TA, or reverse the routing if possible.

Clairus Feb 14, 2023 10:17 am

Hi - I'm trying to use the tool to check if my itinerary is valid or not, but it's insisting that there isn't a single OW flight between Sydney and Thailand/Malaysia or Singapore which seems *quite* unlikely, so I thought I'd check here if this looks like a valid itinerary or if there are issues with it that I might not have spotted:

OSL-LHR-SIN-MEL-SYD-NOU-SYD-SIN-HKT-HKG-KIX-LAX-BOS-LHR-OSL

(first SIN stop transit only)

I'm within the 16 legs, but not sure if I have too many flights in Asia and Australia

Hoping I can use my BA vouchers to bring the pricing down even further!

skunker Feb 14, 2023 10:29 am


Originally Posted by Clairus (Post 35011072)
Hi - I'm trying to use the tool to check if my itinerary is valid or not, but it's insisting that there isn't a single OW flight between Sydney and Thailand/Malaysia or Singapore which seems *quite* unlikely, so I thought I'd check here if this looks like a valid itinerary or if there are issues with it that I might not have spotted:

OSL-LHR-SIN-MEL-SYD-NOU-SYD-SIN-HKT-HKG-KIX-LAX-BOS-LHR-OSL

(first SIN stop transit only)

I'm within the 16 legs, but not sure if I have too many flights in Asia and Australia

Hoping I can use my BA vouchers to bring the pricing down even further!

I noticed that the other day as well. Tool couldn't find any flights for HKG-AKL, HKG-SYD, or NRT/HND-SYD.

LeSouris Feb 14, 2023 10:44 am


Originally Posted by Clairus (Post 35011072)
Hi - I'm trying to use the tool to check if my itinerary is valid or not,
OSL-LHR-SIN-MEL-SYD-NOU-SYD-SIN-HKT-HKG-KIX-LAX-BOS-LHR-OSL
(first SIN stop transit only)

Others will know the detailed rules but it sounds as though you have made it think you are backtracking in Asia-Pac. Sometimes the tool gets it wrong (actually there are two tools and they seem to calculate differently). Also, rather than go back to LHR have you thought of going OSL-HEL-SIN instead (on Finnair)? It's a nice airline, great airport and quite a convenient route.

You may also be hitting some availability constraints on those sectors. HKG and SYD have some bottlenecks at the moment as we found on our booking. I usually take a subscription to Expertflyer for a month or two while I'm setting up an RTW, and use it to check for D class (or whatever you are flying in) on specific flights before asking the tool to price the route and again before calling to book.

anabolism Feb 14, 2023 12:00 pm


Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 35008365)
You are welcome. In my experience, a TA can only issue an RTW using QR plate if QR has the first inter-TC segment (TPAC, TATL, or Europe/ME-Asia/Aus), so the autoprice default to QR as the validating carrier. You can try asking a different TA, or reverse the routing if possible.

I believe TAs can ticket on any airline that has the fare. Back when a number of people were buying xONEx tickets starting in origins for which most of the OW airlines had withdrawn their fares but a few hadn't yet, people were using TAs to get them ticketed on OW airlines that still had the fare, with the ticketing airline not being the first flight and maybe only having a small flight in the routing (I can't recall all the details).

anabolism Feb 14, 2023 12:07 pm


Originally Posted by SP0 (Post 35011139)
I usually take a subscription to Expertflyer for a month or two while I'm setting up an RTW, and use it to check for D class (or whatever you are flying in) on specific flights before asking the tool to price the route and again before calling to book.

I agree with @SPO, except that I have an annual subscription to Expert Flyer, as I use it all the time. I would not rely on the online tool to verify if a routing is correct, as it is often wrong. I verify the routing against the rules myself, manually, then use Expert Flyer to identify the flights I want and verify availability in the appropriate booking inventory.

pandaperth Feb 14, 2023 12:50 pm


Originally Posted by Clairus (Post 35011072)
Hi - I'm trying to use the tool to check if my itinerary is valid or not, but it's insisting that there isn't a single OW flight between Sydney and Thailand/Malaysia or Singapore which seems *quite* unlikely,
The tool is very buggy, and this is one of the known bugs - there is a thread discussing the bugs xONEx online tool bugs thread - FlyerTalk Forums

so I thought I'd check here if this looks like a valid itinerary or if there are issues with it that I might not have spotted:
Your itinerary looks fine
OSL-LHR-SIN-MEL-SYD-NOU-SYD-SIN-HKT-HKG-KIX-LAX-BOS-LHR-OSL

(first SIN stop transit only) - doesn't need to be, can be a stopover if you want it

Your second visit to Asia is allowed (the rule is two visits are allowed "when one is for travel between the Southwest Pacific and Europe/Middle East", which your LHR-SIN-MEL routing satisfies


I'm within the 16 legs, but not sure if I have too many flights in Asia and Australia
In South-West Pacific - you are using three (MEL-SYD-NOU-SYD) of the allowed four flight segments
In Asia - you are again using three (SIN-HKT-HKG-KIX) of the allowed four flight segments, but I don't think there is a direct Oneworld flight between SIN and HKT, so you will need to use an extra segment (e.g. SIN-KUL-HKT) - still not exceeding the four allowed flight segments


Hoping I can use my BA vouchers to bring the pricing down even further!

Suggestions:
If you are wanting to see more of Australia, you can change one of your SYD visits to BNE. If you have an unused segment, then you can add PER between SIN and MEL
The wiki to the
The Oneworld Explorer User Guide - FlyerTalk Forums might give you more ideas

LeSouris Feb 14, 2023 12:54 pm


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 35011464)
If you are wanting to see more of Australia, you can change one of your SYD visits to BNE

or indeed CNS providing you aren’t going there in marine stinger season. Might be a nice contrast to Sydney.

jerry a. laska Feb 14, 2023 5:15 pm


Originally Posted by anc305 (Post 35003604)
Thanks for adding to this thread. Made me look agian at fares, CAI in only $4761 for a DONE 5

Egypt has devalued the EGP several times in the last year which means that Egypt is again a good starting place for xonex tickets.

Clairus Feb 15, 2023 3:10 am

Thanks everyone - this is super helpful, some great tweaks here and i'll definitely take a subscription on ExpertFlyer - great tip

Always Flyin Feb 17, 2023 5:30 am

My primary question is where do I actually book a DONE3 starting in Cairo? The on-line itinerary builder on oneworld is useless.

First two segments would be on QR.

General planned itinerary is:

CAI-xDOH-xLAX-oLAS-xLAX-oJFK-xDFW-oLAS-xDFW-oHNL-oTYO-oBKK-xHKG-oLHR-oCAI

Any hiccups on that itinerary?

Thx.

jerry a. laska Feb 17, 2023 1:03 pm


Originally Posted by Always Flyin (Post 35018443)
My primary question is where do I actually book a DONE3 starting in Cairo? The on-line itinerary builder on oneworld is useless.

First two segments would be on QR.

General planned itinerary is:

CAI-xDOH-xLAX-oLAS-xLAX-oJFK-xDFW-oLAS-xDFW-oHNL-oTYO-oBKK-xHKG-oLHR-oCAI

Any hiccups on that itinerary?

Thx.

Looks like 7 NA segments.

LAX-oLAS-xLAX-oJFK-xDFW-oLAS-xDFW-oHNL
I usually book through the AA RTW desk, although they may at times require an AA over water segment.


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