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pandaperth Mar 8, 2023 10:04 am


2. Two permitted in Asia when one is for travel between the Southwest Pacific and Europe/Middle East.

CAI-xLHR-xDFW-SCL-xDFW-CUN-ORD-ANC-HNL-HND-SYD-NAN, AKL-KUL-DEL-xDOH-AMM
Your second arrival and departure IS for travel between the Southwest Pacific and Europe/Middle East - AKL-KUL and DEL-DOH
So, it looks OK to me

Padkir Mar 8, 2023 11:23 am


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 35071317)
Your second arrival and departure IS for travel between the Southwest Pacific and Europe/Middle East - AKL-KUL and DEL-DOH
So, it looks OK to me

Oh ok, so it doesn't matter that there are long stopovers in Asia, as long as I'm ultimately arriving from Southwest Pacific and leaving to Europe/Middle East (with regards to the 2nd entry/exit)?

That's great, one less thing to wonder about! Thanks for the clarification!

Clairus Mar 10, 2023 1:25 am

Just an update - I finally got ticketed this morning.

I gave up on BA and called AA RTW desk who were incredibly helpful and unpicked the mess BA had made. They instantly spotted that it was the US continental legs that were making it an invalid booking as pandaperth said and sorted me out with a London to Sydney flight via DOH.

Base price of the ticket from Oslo came to £5,565 and with taxes etc it came to £7,353

Thank you so much for all of your help - I literally couldn't have done it without this thread!

aaupgrade Mar 10, 2023 6:22 am


Originally Posted by Clairus (Post 35075987)
Base price of the ticket from Oslo came to £5,565 and with taxes etc it came to £7,353

That base price seems a bit high. Are you sure that's not USD pricing as the numbers are closer to the current USD pricing of $5,489 based on NOK base pricing of 57,959 NOK. Based on the NOK rate, current GBP base pricing should be around £4,589.

Cynicor Mar 10, 2023 6:29 am

That was my initial thought. Base price seems very high.

Cynicor Mar 10, 2023 6:40 am

That was my initial thought. Base price seems very high.

danger Mar 16, 2023 9:04 pm

A few weeks ago, wasn't a DONE5 ex-CAI circa USD5500? It's now USD4700 and USD4570 for a DONE4.

pandaperth Mar 17, 2023 11:20 am


Originally Posted by danger (Post 35093586)
A few weeks ago, wasn't a DONE5 ex-CAI circa USD5500? It's now USD4700 and USD4570 for a DONE4.

This is intriguing
Interest in ex-CAI RTW fares was rekindled in early Feb - [MENTION=873896]PO48RA[/MENTION] posted that the base fare for a DONE4 was USD4664 (see Post #1113)
Other posts at that time indicated that the base fares were in EGP (e.g. post #1119 told us the DONE5 base fares was EGP145,000)
But then early this month the fares were being quoted in USD, and were higher (DONE4 for USD5220 for example; I actually made a note of these fares on March 8th, but didn't note which OW airline's fares I was looking at)
And now the fares have reverted to being quote in EGP and are the same as they were before the change to USD

Note: I used experflyer to look up the current fares. It displays the fares in the currency you choose, but if you click on the routing rules (!) for a fare, you can see what currency has been filed for the fare

BUT the bottom line is - these fares are a bargain!

ernestnywang Mar 17, 2023 12:21 pm


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 35094914)
This is intriguing
Interest in ex-CAI RTW fares was rekindled in early Feb - [MENTION=873896]PO48RA[/MENTION] posted that the base fare for a DONE4 was USD4664 (see Post #1113)
Other posts at that time indicated that the base fares were in EGP (e.g. post #1119 told us the DONE5 base fares was EGP145,000)
But then early this month the fares were being quoted in USD, and were higher (DONE4 for USD5220 for example; I actually made a note of these fares on March 8th, but didn't note which OW airline's fares I was looking at)
And now the fares have reverted to being quote in EGP and are the same as they were before the change to USD

Note: I used experflyer to look up the current fares. It displays the fares in the currency you choose, but if you click on the routing rules (!) for a fare, you can see what currency has been filed for the fare

BUT the bottom line is - these fares are a bargain!

I believe QR is filing the fare in USD, BA and AT are not filing one, while all other oneworld carriers are filing the fare in EGP.

jerry a. laska Mar 17, 2023 9:22 pm

The EGP has continued to trend lower against the US dollar over the last month and the fare when converted to dollars is lower also.

danger Mar 17, 2023 9:46 pm


Originally Posted by Calchas (Post 35061409)
LHR-DOH-SIN-DOH-LHR doesn't work. You are only permitted one entry into the European continent (except for going to/from Africa)
Code:

E. ONLY ONE INTERCONTINENTAL DEPARTURE AND ONE
INTERCONTINENTAL ARRIVAL PERMITTED IN EACH
CONTINENT EXCEPT AS FOLLOWS -
1. TWO PERMITTED IN NORTH AMERICA.
2. TWO PERMITTED IN ASIA.
3. TWO PERMITTED IN EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST FOR
TRAVEL TO/FROM/VIA AFRICA. IF TRAVEL IS TO/FROM
EUROPE IN BOTH DIRECTIONS ITINERARY MAY NOT
INCLUDE MAURITIUS/SOUTH AFRICA.

Also, LHR-PER counts as passing through Asia, so you're entering Asia three times in total, which isn't allowed either.

LHR-DOH is only permitted once.

Code:

I.THE SAME CITY PAIRS/SECTORS CANNOT BE FLOWN
MORE THAN ONCE IN THE SAME DIRECTION



Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 35095069)
I believe QR is filing the fare in USD, BA and AT are not filing one, while all other oneworld carriers are filing the fare in EGP.

Interesting. On ExpertFlyer, a DONE5 with QR is USD5370. With QF it's USD4700.

anc305 Mar 18, 2023 8:11 am


Originally Posted by danger (Post 35096237)
Interesting. On ExpertFlyer, a DONE5 with QR is USD5370. With QF it's USD4700.

This has been the case the last few weeks I have been checking prices.

ernestnywang Mar 19, 2023 4:03 pm


Originally Posted by danger (Post 35096237)
Interesting. On ExpertFlyer, a DONE5 with QR is USD5370. With QF it's USD4700.

Code:


       
Code:

       
FQDCAICAI/D7APR/CD/AQF/IX,L
ROE 30.30 UP TO 1.00 EGP
07APR23**07APR23/QF CAICAI/NSP;RW/TPM ...../MPM .....
LN FARE BASIS    OW   EGP  RT   B PEN  DATES/DAYS   AP MIN MAX R
01 DONE3                 130000 D  +     -     -   +  + -  12M+R
02 DONE4                 141000 D  +     -     -   +  + -  12M+R
03 DGLOB34               141000 D  +     -     -   +  + -  12M+R
04 DONE5                 145000 D  +     -     -   +  + -  12M+R
05 DONE6                 165000 D  +     -     -   +  + -  12M+R
>                                                 PAGE  1/ 1


>FQN4

       
Code:

       
FQN4
**  RULES DISPLAY  **
07APR23**07APR23/QF CAICAI/NSP;RW/TPM ...../MPM .....
LN FARE BASIS    OW   EGP  RT   B PEN  DATES/DAYS   AP MIN MAX R
04 DONE5                 145000 D  +     -     -   +  + -  12M+R
FCL: DONE5     TRF: 346 RULE: 3015 BK:  D
PTC: ADT-ADULT              FTC: BRW-BUSINESS ROUND THE WORLD
OPTION LIST
   RU.RULE APPLICATION              MX.MAX STAY
   SR.SALES RESTRICT                AP.ADVANCE RES/TKT
   FL.FLT APPLICATION               CD.CHILD DISCOUNTS
   TC.TOUR CONDUCTOR                AD.AGTS DISCOUNTS
   OD.OTHER DISCOUNTS               SO.STOPOVERS
   TF.TRANSFERS/RTGS                TE.TKT ENDORSEMENT
   PE.PENALTIES                     CO.COMBINABILITY
   GP.GROUPS
          ****** SELECT CATEGORIES ******
                                                  PAGE  1/ 1


>fqdcaicai/d7apr/cd/aqr/ix,l

       
Code:

       
FQDCAICAI/D7APR/CD/AQR/IX,L
NO FARE IN EGP - USD FARES SHOWN
ROE 1.00 NEAREST 1.00 USD
07APR23**07APR23/QR CAICAI/NSP;RW/TPM ...../MPM .....
LN FARE BASIS    OW   USD  RT   B PEN  DATES/DAYS   AP MIN MAX R
01 DONE3                   4810 D  +     -     -   +  + -  12M+R
02 DONE4                   5220 D  +     -     -   +  + -  12M+R
03 DGLOB34                 5220 D  +     -     -   +  + -  12M+R
04 DONE5                   5370 D  +     -     -   +  + -  12M+R
05 DONE6                   6110 D  +     -     -   +  + -  12M+R
>                                                 PAGE  1/ 1


>FQN4FQN4
**  RULES DISPLAY  **
07APR23**07APR23/QR CAICAI/NSP;RW/TPM ...../MPM .....
LN FARE BASIS    OW  USD  RT  B PEN  DATES/DAYS  AP MIN MAX R
04 DONE5                  5370 D  +    -    -  +  + -  12M+R
FCL: DONE5    TRF: 346 RULE: 3015 BK:  D*
PTC: ADT-ADULT              FTC: BRW-BUSINESS ROUND THE WORLD
FARE FAMILY            : BCOMFORT
FARE FAMILY DESCRIPTION: BUSINESS COMFORT
OPTION LIST
  RU.RULE APPLICATION              MX.MAX STAY
  SR.SALES RESTRICT                AP.ADVANCE RES/TKT
  FL.FLT APPLICATION              CD.CHILD DISCOUNTS
  TC.TOUR CONDUCTOR                AD.AGTS DISCOUNTS
  OD.OTHER DISCOUNTS              SO.STOPOVERS
  TF.TRANSFERS/RTGS                TE.TKT ENDORSEMENT
  PE.PENALTIES                    CO.COMBINABILITY
  GP.GROUPS
          ****** SELECT CATEGORIES ******
                                                  PAGE  1/ 1


Clairus Mar 22, 2023 8:03 am


Originally Posted by aaupgrade (Post 35076382)
That base price seems a bit high. Are you sure that's not USD pricing as the numbers are closer to the current USD pricing of $5,489 based on NOK base pricing of 57,959 NOK. Based on the NOK rate, current GBP base pricing should be around £4,589.

You're absolutely right: for clarity, this is what I was charged:Base Fare
£4,606.00Taxes
£2,469.99Carrier-imposed fees
£277.00Total (all passengers)
£7,353.89

skunker Mar 22, 2023 2:56 pm


Originally Posted by Clairus (Post 35107646)
You're absolutely right: for clarity, this is what I was charged:Base Fare
£4,606.00Taxes
£2,469.99Carrier-imposed fees
£277.00Total (all passengers)
£7,353.89

”Taxes” more than 50% of the fare?? Something isn’t right.


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