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ernestnywang May 24, 2023 12:24 am


Originally Posted by Cerebus (Post 35273663)
And many thanks for the quote. It was a fun little game working out the code. So that's about £1100 in taxes, could be worse! When I was doing some test ex-OSL routings in the OneWorld RTW tool, QF YQ/YR sometimes came to about £1500 alone!



Looks as if I should try using JL to book, however if I decide to use the AA RTW desk instead, are the taxes likely to be the same? Also, will I have to use an AA codeshare on one of the trans-ocean flights for AA to except it? Not an issue as it's more Avios as a BA EC member.

Thanks again.

Sorry I kept writing USD when your code specified GBP.

Using AA to plate the ticket for your original itinerary resulted in a slight increase, as there is now 60GBP of YR from QF. If the ticket is issued in the US, there is also more US and XF taxes, when I specified the ticket to be issued in DFW (but still with a GBP quote just for easy comparison).

Code:

WQHND/AJL14SEP/CA/XBKK/ACX/CDHKG/ACX/CD/XSIN/AQF/CASYD/AQF/CD/XBNE/AQF/CDAPW/-NAN/AQF/CDSYD/AQF/CASIN/AQF/CALHR/AQR/CADOH/AQR/CALHR/ABA/CASEA/AAS/CDSFO/AAA/CAJFK/AJL/CAHND-B01JUN23/RW/MGBP/SDFW/TDFW/VAA«

    PSGR TYPE  ADT
    ATTN*VERIFY BOOKING CLASS
      FARE BASIS BOOK CODE          FARE TAX/FEES/CHGS  TOTAL
    01 LONE4      E/R/R/R/* GBP    2063.00  1094.62    3157.62 ADT
    02 LONE5      E/R/R/R/* GBP    2436.00  1096.52    3532.52 ADT
    03 DONE4      D/D/D/D/* GBP    4540.00  1206.52    5746.52 ADT
    04 DONE5      D/D/D/D/* GBP    5207.00  1210.02    6417.02 ADT
    05 AONE4      A/A/A/A/* GBP    6878.00  1218.82    8096.82 ADT
    *01-05*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY
    *01-05*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED
    *01-05*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED
    *01-05*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY
    ATTN*BOOK OPTION OF CHOICE IN APPLICABLE BOOKING CLASS
    ** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES **
    ** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE
      CONFIRMED **
    .

WQ5«

    1 JLOPENA 14SEP 4 HNDBKK DS1   
    2 CXOPENA        BKKHKG DS1 
    3 CXOPENA        HKGSIN DS1 
    4 QFOPENA        SINSYD DS1 
    5 QFOPENA        SYDBNE DS1 
    6 QFOPENA        BNEAPW DS1 
    7  ARNK
    8 QFOPENA        NANSYD DS1 
    9 QFOPENA        SYDSIN DS1 
    10 QFOPENA        SINLHR DS1 
    11 QROPENA        LHRDOH DS1 
    12 QROPENA        DOHLHR DS1 
    13 BAOPENA        LHRSEA DS1 
    14 ASOPEND        SEASFO DS1 
    15 AAOPENA        SFOJFK DS1 
    16 JLOPENA        JFKHND DS1 
    PSGR TYPE  ADT - 05
        CXR RES DATE  FARE BASIS      NVB  NVA    BG
    TYO
    XBKK JL  A  14SEP AONE4          14SEP 14SEP 02P
    HKG CX  A  OPEN  AONE4          15SEP 15SEP 02P
    XSIN CX  A  OPEN  AONE4          16SEP 16SEP 02P            ¥

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    SYD QF  A  OPEN  AONE4          17SEP 17SEP 02P            ¥
    XBNE QF  A  OPEN  AONE4          18SEP 18SEP 02P
    APW QF  A  OPEN  AONE4          19SEP 19SEP 02P
    NAN    S U R F A C E
    SYD QF  A  OPEN  AONE4          21SEP 21SEP 02P
    SIN QF  A  OPEN  AONE4          22SEP 22SEP 02P
    LON QF  A  OPEN  AONE4          23SEP 23SEP 02P
    DOH QR  A  OPEN  AONE4          24SEP 24SEP 02P
    LON QR  A  OPEN  AONE4          25SEP 25SEP 02P
    SEA BA  A  OPEN  AONE4          26SEP 26SEP 02P
    SFO AS  D  OPEN  AONE4          27SEP 27SEP 02P
    NYC AA  A  OPEN  AONE4          28SEP 28SEP 02P
    TYO JL  A  OPEN  AONE4          29SEP 29SEP 02P
    FARE  JPY  1182500 EQUIV GBP  6878.00
    TAX  GBP    17.20SW GBP      0.40G8 GBP  1201.22XT
    TOTAL GBP  8096.82
    ADT-01  AONE4
    TYO JL X/BKK CX HKG CX X/SIN QF SYD QF X/BNE QF APW//NAN QF
    SYD QF SIN QF LON QR DOH QR LON BA SEA AS SFO AA NYC JL TYO
    8761.45NUC8761.45END ROE134.966207 ZPSEASFO
    XT GBP0.80E7 GBP12.30HK GBP16.40G3 GBP5.60I5 GBP3.60SG
    XT GBP8.30L7 GBP4.80OP GBP64.20AU GBP10.70QR GBP1.00WG
    XT GBP66.70WY GBP36.50EY GBP3.40EZ GBP3.40FA GBP111.62UB      ¥

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    XT GBP13.20QA GBP3.20PZ GBP13.20G4 GBP36.30US GBP7.80ZP        ¥
    XT GBP34.00US GBP5.20YC GBP5.60XY GBP3.10XA GBP9.00AY
    XT GBP106.60YR GBP595.90YQ GBP5.80TK GBP2.20R9
    XT GBP10.80XFSEA4.5SFO4.5JFK4.5
    ENDOS*SEG0/1/2/3/4/5/6/8/9/10/11/12/13/14/15/16*VALID ON
    ENDOS*ONEWORLD ONLY/NONREF
    TKT/TL20AUG23/2359
    RATE USED 1JPY-0.00581689GBP
    ATTN*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY SEG 1-16
    ATTN*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED SEG 1-16
    ATTN*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED SEG 1
    ATTN*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY SEG 1-16
    ATTN*VALIDATING CARRIER SPECIFIED - AA
    ATTN*APPLICABLE BOOKING CLASS - 2A 3A 5A 6A 8A
    ** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES **
    ** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE
      CONFIRMED **
    .

WQ¥DF5«

    WQ¥DF5
    PSGR TYPE ADT
    FARE  JPY  1182500 EQUIV GBP  6878.00
    TAX  GBP    17.20SW GBP      0.40G8 GBP  1201.22XT
    TOTAL GBP  8096.82
    TYO JL X/BKK CX HKG CX X/SIN QF SYD QF X/BNE QF APW//NAN QF SYD
    QF SIN QF LON QR DOH QR LON BA SEA AS SFO AA NYC JL TYO8761.45NU
    C8761.45END ROE134.966207 ZPSEASFO
    XT GBP0.80E7 GBP12.30HK GBP16.40G3 GBP5.60I5 GBP3.60SG
    XT GBP8.30L7 GBP4.80OP GBP64.20AU GBP10.70QR GBP1.00WG
    XT GBP66.70WY GBP36.50EY GBP3.40EZ GBP3.40FA GBP111.62UB
    XT GBP13.20QA GBP3.20PZ GBP13.20G4 GBP36.30US GBP7.80ZP
    XT GBP34.00US GBP5.20YC GBP5.60XY GBP3.10XA GBP9.00AY
    XT GBP106.60YR GBP595.90YQ GBP5.80TK GBP2.20R9 GBP10.80XFSEA4.5S
    FO4.5JFK4.5
    RATE USED 1JPY-0.00581689GBP
    /////////////// TRAFFIC DOCUMENT ISSUED IN DFW ///////////////
    PU -FARE BASIS-CUR  NUC AMT ELEMENT DESCRIPTION ----------- GI
    01 AONE4      JPY  8761.45 TYO-TYO QF /RT RTG              RW
                        8761.45    -    TOTAL NUC
    -TAX AMT/GBP/-- CUR  CODES  DESCRIPTION-----TAX TYPE/SEQUENCE--
          328.10        /YQF SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED FUEL
            114.00:JPY    19600 *HND* *JL*                162740
            214.10:JPY    36800 *JFK* *JL*                164760
          267.80        /YQI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC
              2.90:USD    3.60 *HND* *JL*              9040090  ¥

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              2.90:USD    3.60 *JFK* *JL*              9040090  ¥
            262.00:USD  326.00 *LHR* *BA*              9004350
          46.60        /YRF SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED FUEL
              23.30:JPY    4000 *BKK* *CX*                139037
              23.30:JPY    4000 *HKG* *CX*                139037
          60.00        /YRI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC
              10.00:USD    12.50 *SIN* *QF*              3595000
              10.00:USD    12.50 *SIN* *QF*              3595000
              10.00:USD    12.50 *SIN* *QF*              3595000
              10.00:USD    12.50 *NAN* *QF*              3595000
              10.00:USD    12.50 *NAN* *QF*              3595000
              10.00:USD    12.50 *NAN* *QF*              3595000
          64.20        AU/AU  PASSENGER MOVEMENT CHARGE  PMC
              32.10:AUD    60.00 *BNE* *QF*          001    21250
              32.10:AUD    60.00 *SYD* *QF*          001    21250
            4.00        AU/QR  PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE DOMESTIC DE
              4.00:AUD    7.41 *SYD* *QF*          001  513750
            6.70        AU/QR2 PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE DOMESTIC AR
              6.70:AUD    12.50 *SYD* *QF*          002  391250
            1.00        AU/WG  SAFETY AND SECURITY CHARGE  DEPARTUR
              1.00:AUD    1.81 *SYD* *QF*          001  608437
          33.30        AU/WY  PASSENGER SERVICES CHARGE DEPARTURE
              16.60:AUD    31.09 *BNE* *QF*          001  104396  ¥

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              16.70:AUD    31.28 *SYD* *QF*          001  287500  ¥
          33.40        AU/WY2 PASSENGER SERVICES CHARGE ARRIVAL IN
              16.70:AUD    31.28 *NAN* *QF*          002  289375
              16.70:AUD    31.28 *SIN* *QF*          002  289375
          36.50        FJ/EY  AIRPORT DEPARTURE TAX
              36.50:FJD  100.00 *NAN* *QF*          001    25000
            3.40        FJ/EZ  AIRPORT SECURITY CHARGE
              3.40:FJD    9.27 *NAN* *QF*          001    25000
            3.40        FJ/FA  AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT CHARGE
              3.40:FJD    9.27 *NAN* *QF*          001    25000
          111.62        GB/UB  PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE DEPARTURES
              55.81:GBP    55.81 *LHR* *QR*          001  4724938
              55.81:GBP    55.81 *LHR* *BA*          001  4724938
          16.40        HK/G3  AIRPORT CONSTRUCTION FEE
              16.40:HKD      160 *HKG* *CX*          001  105000
          12.30        HK/HK  AIR PASSENGER DEPARTURE TAX
              12.30:HKD      120 *HKG* *CX*          001    15000
            5.60        HK/I5  AIRPORT PASSENGER SECURITY CHARGE
              5.60:HKD      55 *HKG* *CX*          001  110000
          17.20        JP/SW  PASSENGER SERVICE FACILITIES CHARGE
              17.20:JPY    2950 *HND* *JL*          001  475000
            5.80        JP/TK  INTERNATIONAL TOURIST TAX
              5.80:JPY    1000 *HND* *JL*          001  100000  ¥

MD«

          13.20        QA/G4  PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE PFC      ¥
              13.20:QAR    60.00 *DOH* *QR*          001  105000
            1.60        QA/PZ  PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE DEPARTURES
              1.60:USD    2.05 *DOH* *QR*          001  115000
            1.60        QA/PZ2 PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE ARRIVALS
              1.60:USD    2.05 *LHR* *QR*          002  120000
          13.20        QA/QA  AIRPORT FEE INTERNATIONAL
              13.20:QAR    60.00 *DOH* *QR*          001    25000
            2.20        QA/R9  PASSENGER SAFETY AND SECURITY FEE PS
              2.20:QAR    10.00 *DOH* *QR*          001  110000
            8.30        SG/L7  AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT LEVY
              1.80:SGD    3.00 *SIN* *QF*          001  102500
              6.50:SGD    10.80 *SIN* *QF*          001  105000
            4.80        SG/OP  AVIATION LEVY
              4.80:SGD    8.00 *SIN* *QF*          001  120000
            3.60        SG/SG  PASSENGER SERVICE AND SECURITY FEE P
              3.60:SGD    6.00 *SIN* *QF*          001    20312
            0.80        TH/E72 ADVANCE PASSENGER PROCESSING USER CH
              0.80:THB      35 *HND* *JL*          002    75025
            0.40        TH/G82 INTERNATIONAL ARRIVAL FEE
              0.40:THB      15 *HND* *JL*          002  100000
            9.00        US/AY  PASSENGER CIVIL AVIATION SECURITY SE
              4.50:USD    5.60 *SEA*              001  828212  ¥

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              4.50:USD    5.60 *SFO*              001  828212  ¥
          36.30        US/US1 TRANSPORTATION TAX DOMESTIC NOT WHOL
              7.60:GBP    9.50 *SEA* *AS*          012  290000
              28.70:GBP    35.70 *SFO* *AA*          012  290000
          34.00        US/US2 TRANSPORTATION TAX INTERNATIONAL DEP
              17.00:USD    21.10 *JFK* *JL*          014  187890
              17.00:USD    21.10 *LHR* *BA*          015  137890
            3.10        US/XA  APHIS PASSENGER FEE PASSENGERS
              3.10:USD    3.83 *LHR* *BA*          001  112500
            5.60        US/XY2 IMMIGRATION USER FEE
              5.60:USD    7.00 *LHR* *BA*          002  130000
            5.20        US/YC  CUSTOMS USER FEE
              5.20:USD    6.52 *LHR* *BA*          001  125000
            7.80        US/ZP  FLIGHT SEGMENT TAX DOMESTIC
              3.90:USD    4.80 *SEA*              001  138750
              3.90:USD    4.80 *SFO*              001  138750
          10.80        US/XF  PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE
              3.60:USD    4.50 *SEA*                 
              3.60:USD    4.50 *SFO*                 
              3.60:USD    4.50 *JFK*                 
    -IATA RATES OF EXCHANGE USED IN FARE CALCULATION --------------
      134.966207  JPY-ROE  EFF 01JUN23*INDEF
    -BSR USED IN FARE CALCULATION ---------------------------------¥

MD«

    1JPY:0.00581689GBP                                            ¥
    -BSR USED IN TAX CALCULATION ----------------------------------
    1JPY:0.00581689GBP                1USD:0.80370113GBP
    1AUD:0.53425698GBP                1FJD:0.36452872GBP
    1HKD:0.10272058GBP                1QAR:0.22070606GBP
    1SGD:0.59747215GBP                1THB:0.02336188GBP
    -PRICING UNIT TRIP TYPE ---------------------------------------
      PU 01 - SPECIAL RW SINGLE FARE COMPONENT
    .

Changing LHR-SEA to AA code will save you quite a lot, as YQ changes from 262GBP when BA code is used to 140.6GBP. Changing JFK-HND would save you the 2.9GBP YQ from JL but not the main portion (214.1GBP).

Code:

WQHND/AJL14SEP/CA/XBKK/ACX/CDHKG/ACX/CD/XSIN/AQF/CASYD/AQF/CD/XBNE/AQF/CDAPW/-NAN/AQF/CDSYD/AQF/CASIN/AQF/CALHR/AQR/CADOH/AQR/CALHR/AAA/CASEA/AAS/CDSFO/AAA/CAJFK/AAA/CAHND-B01JUN23/RW/MGBP/SDFW/TDFW/VAA«

    PSGR TYPE  ADT
    ATTN*VERIFY BOOKING CLASS
      FARE BASIS BOOK CODE          FARE TAX/FEES/CHGS  TOTAL
    01 LONE4      E/R/R/R/* GBP    2063.00  1135.12    3198.12 ADT
    02 LONE5      E/R/R/R/* GBP    2436.00  1137.02    3573.02 ADT
    03 DONE4      D/D/D/D/* GBP    4540.00  1082.22    5622.22 ADT
    04 DONE5      D/D/D/D/* GBP    5207.00  1085.72    6292.72 ADT
    05 AONE4      A/A/A/A/* GBP    6878.00  1094.52    7972.52 ADT
    *01-05*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY
    *01-05*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED
    *01-05*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED
    *01-05*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY
    ATTN*BOOK OPTION OF CHOICE IN APPLICABLE BOOKING CLASS
    ** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES **
    ** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE
      CONFIRMED **
    .

WQ5«

    1 JLOPENA 14SEP 4 HNDBKK DS1   
    2 CXOPENA        BKKHKG DS1 
    3 CXOPENA        HKGSIN DS1 
    4 QFOPENA        SINSYD DS1 
    5 QFOPENA        SYDBNE DS1 
    6 QFOPENA        BNEAPW DS1 
    7  ARNK
    8 QFOPENA        NANSYD DS1 
    9 QFOPENA        SYDSIN DS1 
    10 QFOPENA        SINLHR DS1 
    11 QROPENA        LHRDOH DS1 
    12 QROPENA        DOHLHR DS1 
    13 AAOPENA        LHRSEA DS1 
    14 ASOPEND        SEASFO DS1 
    15 AAOPENA        SFOJFK DS1 
    16 AAOPENA        JFKHND DS1 
    PSGR TYPE  ADT - 05
        CXR RES DATE  FARE BASIS      NVB  NVA    BG
    TYO
    XBKK JL  A  14SEP AONE4          14SEP 14SEP 02P
    HKG CX  A  OPEN  AONE4          15SEP 15SEP 02P
    XSIN CX  A  OPEN  AONE4          16SEP 16SEP 02P            ¥

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    SYD QF  A  OPEN  AONE4          17SEP 17SEP 02P            ¥
    XBNE QF  A  OPEN  AONE4          18SEP 18SEP 02P
    APW QF  A  OPEN  AONE4          19SEP 19SEP 02P
    NAN    S U R F A C E
    SYD QF  A  OPEN  AONE4          21SEP 21SEP 02P
    SIN QF  A  OPEN  AONE4          22SEP 22SEP 02P
    LON QF  A  OPEN  AONE4          23SEP 23SEP 02P
    DOH QR  A  OPEN  AONE4          24SEP 24SEP 02P
    LON QR  A  OPEN  AONE4          25SEP 25SEP 02P
    SEA AA  A  OPEN  AONE4          26SEP 26SEP 02P
    SFO AS  D  OPEN  AONE4          27SEP 27SEP 02P
    NYC AA  A  OPEN  AONE4          28SEP 28SEP 02P
    TYO AA  A  OPEN  AONE4          29SEP 29SEP 02P
    FARE  JPY  1182500 EQUIV GBP  6878.00
    TAX  GBP    17.20SW GBP      0.40G8 GBP  1076.92XT
    TOTAL GBP  7972.52
    ADT-01  AONE4
    TYO JL X/BKK CX HKG CX X/SIN QF SYD QF X/BNE QF APW//NAN QF
    SYD QF SIN QF LON QR DOH QR LON AA SEA AS SFO AA NYC AA TYO
    8761.45NUC8761.45END ROE134.966207 ZPSEASFO
    XT GBP0.80E7 GBP12.30HK GBP16.40G3 GBP5.60I5 GBP3.60SG
    XT GBP8.30L7 GBP4.80OP GBP64.20AU GBP10.70QR GBP1.00WG
    XT GBP66.70WY GBP36.50EY GBP3.40EZ GBP3.40FA GBP111.62UB      ¥

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    XT GBP13.20QA GBP3.20PZ GBP13.20G4 GBP36.30US GBP7.80ZP        ¥
    XT GBP34.00US GBP5.20YC GBP5.60XY GBP3.10XA GBP9.00AY
    XT GBP461.30YR GBP116.90YQ GBP2.20R9 GBP5.80TK
    XT GBP10.80XFSEA4.5SFO4.5JFK4.5
    ENDOS*SEG0/1/2/3/4/5/6/8/9/10/11/12/13/14/15/16*VALID ON
    ENDOS*ONEWORLD ONLY/NONREF
    TKT/TL20AUG23/2359
    RATE USED 1JPY-0.00581689GBP
    ATTN*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY SEG 1-16
    ATTN*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED SEG 1-16
    ATTN*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED SEG 1
    ATTN*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY SEG 1-16
    ATTN*VALIDATING CARRIER SPECIFIED - AA
    ATTN*APPLICABLE BOOKING CLASS - 2A 3A 5A 6A 8A
    ** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES **
    ** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE
      CONFIRMED **
    .

WQ¥DF5«

    WQ¥DF5
    PSGR TYPE ADT
    FARE  JPY  1182500 EQUIV GBP  6878.00
    TAX  GBP    17.20SW GBP      0.40G8 GBP  1076.92XT
    TOTAL GBP  7972.52
    TYO JL X/BKK CX HKG CX X/SIN QF SYD QF X/BNE QF APW//NAN QF SYD
    QF SIN QF LON QR DOH QR LON AA SEA AS SFO AA NYC AA TYO8761.45NU
    C8761.45END ROE134.966207 ZPSEASFO
    XT GBP0.80E7 GBP12.30HK GBP16.40G3 GBP5.60I5 GBP3.60SG
    XT GBP8.30L7 GBP4.80OP GBP64.20AU GBP10.70QR GBP1.00WG
    XT GBP66.70WY GBP36.50EY GBP3.40EZ GBP3.40FA GBP111.62UB
    XT GBP13.20QA GBP3.20PZ GBP13.20G4 GBP36.30US GBP7.80ZP
    XT GBP34.00US GBP5.20YC GBP5.60XY GBP3.10XA GBP9.00AY
    XT GBP461.30YR GBP116.90YQ GBP2.20R9 GBP5.80TK GBP10.80XFSEA4.5S
    FO4.5JFK4.5
    RATE USED 1JPY-0.00581689GBP
    /////////////// TRAFFIC DOCUMENT ISSUED IN DFW ///////////////
    PU -FARE BASIS-CUR  NUC AMT ELEMENT DESCRIPTION ----------- GI
    01 AONE4      JPY  8761.45 TYO-TYO QF /RT RTG              RW
                        8761.45    -    TOTAL NUC
    -TAX AMT/GBP/-- CUR  CODES  DESCRIPTION-----TAX TYPE/SEQUENCE--
          414.70        /YRI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC
            140.60:USD  175.00 *LHR* *AA*              5691200
            214.10:JPY    36800 *JFK* *AA*              9193300
              10.00:USD    12.50 *SIN* *QF*              3595000
              10.00:USD    12.50 *SIN* *QF*              3595000  ¥

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              10.00:USD    12.50 *SIN* *QF*              3595000  ¥
              10.00:USD    12.50 *NAN* *QF*              3595000
              10.00:USD    12.50 *NAN* *QF*              3595000
              10.00:USD    12.50 *NAN* *QF*              3595000
          114.00        /YQF SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED FUEL
            114.00:JPY    19600 *HND* *JL*                162740
            2.90        /YQI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC
              2.90:USD    3.60 *HND* *JL*              9040090
          46.60        /YRF SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED FUEL
              23.30:JPY    4000 *BKK* *CX*                139037
              23.30:JPY    4000 *HKG* *CX*                139037
          64.20        AU/AU  PASSENGER MOVEMENT CHARGE  PMC
              32.10:AUD    60.00 *BNE* *QF*          001    21250
              32.10:AUD    60.00 *SYD* *QF*          001    21250
            4.00        AU/QR  PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE DOMESTIC DE
              4.00:AUD    7.41 *SYD* *QF*          001  513750
            6.70        AU/QR2 PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE DOMESTIC AR
              6.70:AUD    12.50 *SYD* *QF*          002  391250
            1.00        AU/WG  SAFETY AND SECURITY CHARGE  DEPARTUR
              1.00:AUD    1.81 *SYD* *QF*          001  608437
          33.30        AU/WY  PASSENGER SERVICES CHARGE DEPARTURE
              16.60:AUD    31.09 *BNE* *QF*          001  104396
              16.70:AUD    31.28 *SYD* *QF*          001  287500  ¥

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          33.40        AU/WY2 PASSENGER SERVICES CHARGE ARRIVAL IN¥
              16.70:AUD    31.28 *NAN* *QF*          002  289375
              16.70:AUD    31.28 *SIN* *QF*          002  289375
          36.50        FJ/EY  AIRPORT DEPARTURE TAX
              36.50:FJD  100.00 *NAN* *QF*          001    25000
            3.40        FJ/EZ  AIRPORT SECURITY CHARGE
              3.40:FJD    9.27 *NAN* *QF*          001    25000
            3.40        FJ/FA  AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT CHARGE
              3.40:FJD    9.27 *NAN* *QF*          001    25000
          111.62        GB/UB  PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE DEPARTURES
              55.81:GBP    55.81 *LHR* *QR*          001  4724938
              55.81:GBP    55.81 *LHR* *AA*          001  4724938
          16.40        HK/G3  AIRPORT CONSTRUCTION FEE
              16.40:HKD      160 *HKG* *CX*          001  105000
          12.30        HK/HK  AIR PASSENGER DEPARTURE TAX
              12.30:HKD      120 *HKG* *CX*          001    15000
            5.60        HK/I5  AIRPORT PASSENGER SECURITY CHARGE
              5.60:HKD      55 *HKG* *CX*          001  110000
          17.20        JP/SW  PASSENGER SERVICE FACILITIES CHARGE
              17.20:JPY    2950 *HND* *JL*          001  475000
            5.80        JP/TK  INTERNATIONAL TOURIST TAX
              5.80:JPY    1000 *HND* *JL*          001  100000
          13.20        QA/G4  PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE PFC      ¥

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              13.20:QAR    60.00 *DOH* *QR*          001  105000  ¥
            1.60        QA/PZ  PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE DEPARTURES
              1.60:USD    2.05 *DOH* *QR*          001  115000
            1.60        QA/PZ2 PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE ARRIVALS
              1.60:USD    2.05 *LHR* *QR*          002  120000
          13.20        QA/QA  AIRPORT FEE INTERNATIONAL
              13.20:QAR    60.00 *DOH* *QR*          001    25000
            2.20        QA/R9  PASSENGER SAFETY AND SECURITY FEE PS
              2.20:QAR    10.00 *DOH* *QR*          001  110000
            8.30        SG/L7  AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT LEVY
              1.80:SGD    3.00 *SIN* *QF*          001  102500
              6.50:SGD    10.80 *SIN* *QF*          001  105000
            4.80        SG/OP  AVIATION LEVY
              4.80:SGD    8.00 *SIN* *QF*          001  120000
            3.60        SG/SG  PASSENGER SERVICE AND SECURITY FEE P
              3.60:SGD    6.00 *SIN* *QF*          001    20312
            0.80        TH/E72 ADVANCE PASSENGER PROCESSING USER CH
              0.80:THB      35 *HND* *JL*          002    75025
            0.40        TH/G82 INTERNATIONAL ARRIVAL FEE
              0.40:THB      15 *HND* *JL*          002  100000
            9.00        US/AY  PASSENGER CIVIL AVIATION SECURITY SE
              4.50:USD    5.60 *SEA*              001  828212
              4.50:USD    5.60 *SFO*              001  828212  ¥

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          36.30        US/US1 TRANSPORTATION TAX DOMESTIC NOT WHOL¥
              7.60:GBP    9.50 *SEA* *AS*          012  290000
              28.70:GBP    35.70 *SFO* *AA*          012  290000
          34.00        US/US2 TRANSPORTATION TAX INTERNATIONAL DEP
              17.00:USD    21.10 *JFK* *AA*          014  187890
              17.00:USD    21.10 *LHR* *AA*          015  137890
            3.10        US/XA  APHIS PASSENGER FEE PASSENGERS
              3.10:USD    3.83 *LHR* *AA*          001  112500
            5.60        US/XY2 IMMIGRATION USER FEE
              5.60:USD    7.00 *LHR* *AA*          002  130000
            5.20        US/YC  CUSTOMS USER FEE
              5.20:USD    6.52 *LHR* *AA*          001  125000
            7.80        US/ZP  FLIGHT SEGMENT TAX DOMESTIC
              3.90:USD    4.80 *SEA*              001  138750
              3.90:USD    4.80 *SFO*              001  138750
          10.80        US/XF  PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE
              3.60:USD    4.50 *SEA*                 
              3.60:USD    4.50 *SFO*                 
              3.60:USD    4.50 *JFK*                 
    -IATA RATES OF EXCHANGE USED IN FARE CALCULATION --------------
      134.966207  JPY-ROE  EFF 01JUN23*INDEF
    -BSR USED IN FARE CALCULATION ---------------------------------
    1JPY:0.00581689GBP                                            ¥

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    -BSR USED IN TAX CALCULATION ----------------------------------¥
    1USD:0.80370113GBP                1JPY:0.00581689GBP
    1AUD:0.53425698GBP                1FJD:0.36452872GBP
    1HKD:0.10272058GBP                1QAR:0.22070606GBP
    1SGD:0.59747215GBP                1THB:0.02336188GBP
    -PRICING UNIT TRIP TYPE ---------------------------------------
      PU 01 - SPECIAL RW SINGLE FARE COMPONENT
    .

If you can convince AA RTW desk to book you on AS code for SEA-LHR, though, you can eliminate the 140.6GBP YQ on that flight completely.

Code:

WQHND/AJL14SEP/CA/XBKK/ACX/CDHKG/ACX/CD/XSIN/AQF/CASYD/AQF/CD/XBNE/AQF/CDAPW/-NAN/AQF/CDSYD/AQF/CASIN/AQF/CALHR/AQR/CADOH/AQR/CALHR/AAS/CASEA/AAS/CDSFO/AAA/CAJFK/AAA/CAHND-B01JUN23/RW/MGBP/SDFW/TDFW/VAA«

    PSGR TYPE  ADT
    ATTN*VERIFY BOOKING CLASS
      FARE BASIS BOOK CODE          FARE TAX/FEES/CHGS  TOTAL
    01 LONE4      E/R/R/R/* GBP    2063.00  921.32    2984.32 ADT
    02 LONE5      E/R/R/R/* GBP    2436.00  923.22    3359.22 ADT
    03 DONE4      D/D/D/D/* GBP    4540.00  941.62    5481.62 ADT
    04 DONE5      D/D/D/D/* GBP    5207.00  945.12    6152.12 ADT
    05 AONE4      A/A/A/A/* GBP    6878.00  953.92    7831.92 ADT
    *01-05*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY
    *01-05*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED
    *01-05*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED
    *01-05*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY
    ATTN*BOOK OPTION OF CHOICE IN APPLICABLE BOOKING CLASS
    ** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES **
    ** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE
      CONFIRMED **
    .

WQ5«

    1 JLOPENA 14SEP 4 HNDBKK DS1   
    2 CXOPENA        BKKHKG DS1 
    3 CXOPENA        HKGSIN DS1 
    4 QFOPENA        SINSYD DS1 
    5 QFOPENA        SYDBNE DS1 
    6 QFOPENA        BNEAPW DS1 
    7  ARNK
    8 QFOPENA        NANSYD DS1 
    9 QFOPENA        SYDSIN DS1 
    10 QFOPENA        SINLHR DS1 
    11 QROPENA        LHRDOH DS1 
    12 QROPENA        DOHLHR DS1 
    13 ASOPEND        LHRSEA DS1 
    14 ASOPEND        SEASFO DS1 
    15 AAOPENA        SFOJFK DS1 
    16 AAOPENA        JFKHND DS1 
    PSGR TYPE  ADT - 05
        CXR RES DATE  FARE BASIS      NVB  NVA    BG
    TYO
    XBKK JL  A  14SEP AONE4          14SEP 14SEP 02P
    HKG CX  A  OPEN  AONE4          15SEP 15SEP 02P
    XSIN CX  A  OPEN  AONE4          16SEP 16SEP 02P            ¥

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    SYD QF  A  OPEN  AONE4          17SEP 17SEP 02P            ¥
    XBNE QF  A  OPEN  AONE4          18SEP 18SEP 02P
    APW QF  A  OPEN  AONE4          19SEP 19SEP 02P
    NAN    S U R F A C E
    SYD QF  A  OPEN  AONE4          21SEP 21SEP 02P
    SIN QF  A  OPEN  AONE4          22SEP 22SEP 02P
    LON QF  A  OPEN  AONE4          23SEP 23SEP 02P
    DOH QR  A  OPEN  AONE4          24SEP 24SEP 02P
    LON QR  A  OPEN  AONE4          25SEP 25SEP 02P
    SEA AS  D  OPEN  AONE4          26SEP 26SEP 02P
    SFO AS  D  OPEN  AONE4          27SEP 27SEP 02P
    NYC AA  A  OPEN  AONE4          28SEP 28SEP 02P
    TYO AA  A  OPEN  AONE4          29SEP 29SEP 02P
    FARE  JPY  1182500 EQUIV GBP  6878.00
    TAX  GBP    17.20SW GBP      0.40G8 GBP    936.32XT
    TOTAL GBP  7831.92
    ADT-01  AONE4
    TYO JL X/BKK CX HKG CX X/SIN QF SYD QF X/BNE QF APW//NAN QF
    SYD QF SIN QF LON QR DOH QR LON AS SEA AS SFO AA NYC AA TYO
    8761.45NUC8761.45END ROE134.966207 ZPSEASFO
    XT GBP0.80E7 GBP12.30HK GBP16.40G3 GBP5.60I5 GBP3.60SG
    XT GBP8.30L7 GBP4.80OP GBP64.20AU GBP10.70QR GBP1.00WG
    XT GBP66.70WY GBP36.50EY GBP3.40EZ GBP3.40FA GBP111.62UB      ¥

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    XT GBP13.20QA GBP3.20PZ GBP13.20G4 GBP36.30US GBP7.80ZP        ¥
    XT GBP34.00US GBP5.20YC GBP5.60XY GBP3.10XA GBP9.00AY
    XT GBP320.70YR GBP116.90YQ GBP2.20R9 GBP5.80TK
    XT GBP10.80XFSEA4.5SFO4.5JFK4.5
    ENDOS*SEG0/1/2/3/4/5/6/8/9/10/11/12/13/14/15/16*VALID ON
    ENDOS*ONEWORLD ONLY/NONREF
    TKT/TL20AUG23/2359
    RATE USED 1JPY-0.00581689GBP
    ATTN*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY SEG 1-16
    ATTN*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED SEG 1-16
    ATTN*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED SEG 1
    ATTN*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY SEG 1-16
    ATTN*VALIDATING CARRIER SPECIFIED - AA
    ATTN*APPLICABLE BOOKING CLASS - 2A 3A 5A 6A 8A 13D
    ** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES **
    ** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE
      CONFIRMED **
    .

WQ¥DF5«

    WQ¥DF5
    PSGR TYPE ADT
    FARE  JPY  1182500 EQUIV GBP  6878.00
    TAX  GBP    17.20SW GBP      0.40G8 GBP    936.32XT
    TOTAL GBP  7831.92
    TYO JL X/BKK CX HKG CX X/SIN QF SYD QF X/BNE QF APW//NAN QF SYD
    QF SIN QF LON QR DOH QR LON AS SEA AS SFO AA NYC AA TYO8761.45NU
    C8761.45END ROE134.966207 ZPSEASFO
    XT GBP0.80E7 GBP12.30HK GBP16.40G3 GBP5.60I5 GBP3.60SG
    XT GBP8.30L7 GBP4.80OP GBP64.20AU GBP10.70QR GBP1.00WG
    XT GBP66.70WY GBP36.50EY GBP3.40EZ GBP3.40FA GBP111.62UB
    XT GBP13.20QA GBP3.20PZ GBP13.20G4 GBP36.30US GBP7.80ZP
    XT GBP34.00US GBP5.20YC GBP5.60XY GBP3.10XA GBP9.00AY
    XT GBP320.70YR GBP116.90YQ GBP2.20R9 GBP5.80TK GBP10.80XFSEA4.5S
    FO4.5JFK4.5
    RATE USED 1JPY-0.00581689GBP
    /////////////// TRAFFIC DOCUMENT ISSUED IN DFW ///////////////
    PU -FARE BASIS-CUR  NUC AMT ELEMENT DESCRIPTION ----------- GI
    01 AONE4      JPY  8761.45 TYO-TYO QF /RT RTG              RW
                        8761.45    -    TOTAL NUC
    -TAX AMT/GBP/-- CUR  CODES  DESCRIPTION-----TAX TYPE/SEQUENCE--
          274.10        /YRI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC
            214.10:JPY    36800 *JFK* *AA*              9193300
              10.00:USD    12.50 *SIN* *QF*              3595000
              10.00:USD    12.50 *SIN* *QF*              3595000
              10.00:USD    12.50 *SIN* *QF*              3595000  ¥

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              10.00:USD    12.50 *NAN* *QF*              3595000  ¥
              10.00:USD    12.50 *NAN* *QF*              3595000
              10.00:USD    12.50 *NAN* *QF*              3595000
          114.00        /YQF SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED FUEL
            114.00:JPY    19600 *HND* *JL*                162740
            2.90        /YQI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC
              2.90:USD    3.60 *HND* *JL*              9040090
          46.60        /YRF SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED FUEL
              23.30:JPY    4000 *BKK* *CX*                139037
              23.30:JPY    4000 *HKG* *CX*                139037
          64.20        AU/AU  PASSENGER MOVEMENT CHARGE  PMC
              32.10:AUD    60.00 *BNE* *QF*          001    21250
              32.10:AUD    60.00 *SYD* *QF*          001    21250
            4.00        AU/QR  PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE DOMESTIC DE
              4.00:AUD    7.41 *SYD* *QF*          001  513750
            6.70        AU/QR2 PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE DOMESTIC AR
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littlevoices May 27, 2023 5:48 am

To share a recent experience, booking a DGLOB34 (as I wanted to go to Fiji with FJ rather than QF, and due to the 34k mileage limit on the ticket had to be creative compared to a DONE4) from Japan, with the first flight on Cathay, two interesting observations:
1. I was unable to book a last leg from HNL to HND with JAL, the system kept throwing a wait list error even after trying a few days/combinations including finishing in another city. But was fine to book HNL-NRT on the same day I wanted (note that JAL is booking D class a lot on this route, there are days at a time, Friday/Saturday/Sunday) with 0 availability across both HNL and NRT some 11 months out. Wasn't a big deal, I was willing to take the longer NRT commute to avoid having to read out 12 flights
2. I then had to call, rather than being able to pay online. CX picked up nearly instantly but clearly in the backend there was something complex as it took 20+ minutes (almost all with hold music) to get towards the payment, then another hour before the payment link was sent, but then instantly ticketed

jerry a. laska May 27, 2023 12:46 pm


Originally Posted by littlevoices (Post 35282599)
To share a recent experience, booking a DGLOB34 (as I wanted to go to Fiji with FJ rather than QF, and due to the 34k mileage limit on the ticket had to be creative compared to a DONE4) from Japan, with the first flight on Cathay, two interesting observations:
1. I was unable to book a last leg from HNL to HND with JAL, the system kept throwing a wait list error even after trying a few days/combinations including finishing in another city. But was fine to book HNL-NRT on the same day I wanted (note that JAL is booking D class a lot on this route, there are days at a time, Friday/Saturday/Sunday) with 0 availability across both HNL and NRT some 11 months out. Wasn't a big deal, I was willing to take the longer NRT commute to avoid having to read out 12 flights
2. I then had to call, rather than being able to pay online. CX picked up nearly instantly but clearly in the backend there was something complex as it took 20+ minutes (almost all with hold music) to get towards the payment, then another hour before the payment link was sent, but then instantly ticketed

I would say 20 minutes for a booking over the phone with CX is pretty good, I would be happy with this as these are complex tickets and usually have to be sent off.

pandaperth May 27, 2023 11:19 pm


Originally Posted by jerry a. laska (Post 35283412)
I would say 20 minutes for a booking over the phone with CX is pretty good, I would be happy with this as these are complex tickets and usually have to be sent off.

I agree
I spent an hour on the phone with an AA Agent setting up my current DGLBO34 - see FlyerTalk Forums - View Single Post - 2016-2023 Oneworld booking and pricing experiences

jrobin Jun 5, 2023 1:07 pm

I have booked and modified a few LONE4's in the past week with AA and QF staff, and time to do so has varied considerably. One lovely person from QF in Capetown set one up an LONE4 for me in 28 minutes, but said I had to call back later to get a price as her system was not pricing it for her.
When I called back later, I was asked by the agent who answered whether I was trying to buy a paid or a points ticket: some of the flights were in L, but others booked were in S, Y, X, etc. I them had to spend another half hour with someone correcting the booking classes in each flight to L.
So fast is not always good!

jrobin Jun 5, 2023 9:31 pm

AA and QF Oneworld Explorer Pricing : Why the $1100 Price difference?
 
I had the same itinerary priced by AA and by QF in CAD.
OSL-LHR(stop)PHL-YYZ(stop)-ORD-SFO-DFW-LAX(stop)-MEL(stop)-SIN(stop)-DOH-OSL

The very same flights were used in each case.
AA quoted CA$4535
QF quoted CA$5679
for the same route and flights.

There were some differences in the marketing of flights used
For OSL-LHR, AA used an AA codeshare on BA; I requested that QF do the same, but they would or could not start a Oneworld Explorer with a codeshare, so used the BA flight.
For ORD-SFO-DFW-LAX, AA used AA flights, while QF, at my request, used QF codeshares on AA flights.

1. Would you expect prices to be more than CA$1000 different for the same flights, just different marketing of them?

2. QF quoted CA$5232 (over $400 less if I used SIN-HEL-OSL rather than SIN-DOH-OSL.
Does it make sense that QR flights SIN-OSL would be priced $400 more than AY flights SIN-OSL?

Cynicor Jun 5, 2023 9:55 pm

1 yep. QF YQ is crazy and that’s what they do, chuck it on everything.
2. Yep, QR YQ is flat fee I believe

pye1201 Jun 13, 2023 6:00 am

Apologies if my questions are silly - but I can't seem to find decisive answers in the threads I've been looking through. My husband I are planning a DONE5 beginning March 2024, flights as below. I have asked for advice earlier in this forum but I have changed our itinerary because we're hoping to do an AA Platinum (possibly Platinum Pro) Challenge (pay upfront for the immediate status) over the year it will take to do this itinerary.
nrt-hnl-sea-cun-jfk-gru-doh-lhr-rho-hel-doh-syd-akl-hkg-sin-bkk-nrt
Some questions:
1 Is this itinerary valid?
2 Will all the DONE5 sectors be booked in J class? Or are they likely to be booked on a business fare class that earns a lower cabin bonus i.e. C, D or R? How would i know before actually booking?
3 The cun-jfk-gru sectors would be on AA metal. As I understand it, under the Special Fares rules, I take the base miles, plus 100% J cabin loading (related to my second question above), then add an additional 60% (Plat.) or 80% (Plat. Pro) of the base miles. For example, sea-cun = 2684miles. So 2684+2684(based on J class fare)+520 gives me a total of 6978 redeemable miles/loyalty points on this sector.
Is this correct or am I barking up the wrong tree? I have set up the trip sectors to hopefully allow me to earn the 42K points across each of the three x 4 monthly sessions necessary to gain Platinum Pro. We will probably be spending 5 months in the US during 2025 and hope to take advantage of Platinum Pro benefits.

Cynicor Jun 13, 2023 6:02 am

As per the name, "D"ONE5 they are booked into D class...

petez Jun 13, 2023 2:06 pm

I am potentially looking at:

OSL/LHR/BDA/MIA/LAX/SAT/LAX/HNL/NRT/SIN/SYD/HBA/SYD/PER/DOH/LHR/OSL

Does it look ok with the two visits to LHR assuming they are stops and not just transit ?

jerry a. laska Jun 13, 2023 2:11 pm


Originally Posted by petez (Post 35329507)
I am potentially looking at:

OSL/LHR/BDA/MIA/LAX/SAT/LAX/HNL/NRT/SIN/SYD/HBA/SYD/PER/DOH/LHR/OSL

Does it look ok with the two visits to LHR assuming they are stops and not just transit ?

Are you also stopping in DOH or just transitting?

petez Jun 13, 2023 2:16 pm

Yes, they are all stops at the moment - I could transit at DOH but would prefer not to ....

jerry a. laska Jun 13, 2023 2:31 pm


Originally Posted by petez (Post 35329543)
Yes, they are all stops at the moment - I could transit at DOH but would prefer not to ....

Only 2 stopovers permitted in the continent of origin (in your case EUR/ME).

8. STOPOVERS

Permitted.

NOTE:

1. Minimum 2 stopovers required
2. Maximum 2 stopovers permitted in the continent of origin
https://assets.ctfassets.net/m9ph4qv...d-explorer.pdf

petez Jun 13, 2023 2:42 pm

So am I right assuming any of these routings would be permitted ?

OSL/xLHR/BDA/MIA/LAX/SAT/LAX/HNL/NRT/SIN/SYD/HBA/SYD/PER/DOH/LHR/OSL

OSL/
LHR/BDA/MIA/LAX/SAT/LAX/HNL/NRT/SIN/SYD/HBA/SYD/PER/xDOH/LHR/OSL

OSL/
LHR/BDA/MIA/LAX/SAT/LAX/HNL/NRT/SIN/SYD/HBA/SYD/PER/DOH/xLHR/OSL

jerry a. laska Jun 13, 2023 2:52 pm


Originally Posted by petez (Post 35329631)
So am I right assuming any of these routings would be permitted ?

OSL/xLHR/BDA/MIA/LAX/SAT/LAX/HNL/NRT/SIN/SYD/HBA/SYD/PER/DOH/LHR/OSL

OSL/
LHR/BDA/MIA/LAX/SAT/LAX/HNL/NRT/SIN/SYD/HBA/SYD/PER/xDOH/LHR/OSL

OSL/
LHR/BDA/MIA/LAX/SAT/LAX/HNL/NRT/SIN/SYD/HBA/SYD/PER/DOH/xLHR/OSL

Well, they wouldn't run afoul of the 2 stopovers rule. I haven't checked the entire routing but looks okay at first glance. There is no special limitation on LHR stopovers.


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