No, I mean I am required to use another carrier's metal even though there's space (hypothetically) available. I'm not sure how religiously JL is guarding those flights as I flew one inbound.

So what is a good tool to use if I am only theoretically pricing out a trip? I don't want to waste a TA's or AA RTW desk's time with just a theoretical calculation.

Right you are! Using Chrome did fix it.

I guess we will see in a few days. Asking the clanker suggested that JL is protecting the JV and ensuring that BA gets their "fair" share of the revenue by refusing to carry me when a competing route is available from BA. I don't know where it got this information from, or whether it completely invented it when it didn't have a good answer, though.

Unfortunately, there isn't a publicly available tool that can calculate or even just show fuel surcharges. Matrix comes closest, but there's lots it can't do in the context of RTWs.


I doubt this is the case. As I mentioned, I've been unable to confirm the daytime JFK-HND flight, but I was able to waitlist it and confirm the midnight departure. I am unable to confirm or waitlist a QF flight SIN-BNE. Both flights are wide open in 'D' but are 'D0' as part of my ex-OSL RTW.

I just got a ticket issued that has several stopovers at jfk with AA: IIRC this ticket was HND to JFK to EGE to JFK to MEX to JFK to MIA to JFK to LHR to HEL to OSL to LHR to HKG to TPE to KUL to NRT.

I continue to enjoy these tickets a lot for my personal travels, and find despite their constraints the AA RTW desk are really very helpful. I'd often wondered about how close to departure you could really make changes, well I just had the following to mention on that basis.

Original route was LHR-DFW-LAX-JFK-HKG to try the new AA 78P and A321XLR on my way back from a business trip to Europe. I had a long day/stopover in New York because Cathay wasn't giving availability on Saturday night for these tickets, indeed all 3 flights went to J0.

Whilst overnight at LAX in an airport hotel I realised, via Expertflyer, there was now a route to get home 24 hours earlier via YYZ that wasn't the case a few days before, so I needed to change to JFK-YYZ-HKG. I called at 5am LA/West Coast time when the AA RTW line opens up (7am Central). It took about 20 minutes to get the new route loaded, price it, pay the change fee and ticket it, before an 8am flight to JFK, with the YYZ connection being 2 hours after I landed in JFK. They did mention it took a little longer as they had to undo my AA checkin.

So that was a change to route being made 3 hours prior to departure and 20 minutes before I checked in at the desk. And I got home a day earlier, having experienced what I wanted with the new planes. Great.
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That beats my close-in change, which was quite a few years ago. We landed in HKG for what was booked as a multi-day stop before continuing to Sydney, but it was absolutely freezing in Hong Kong, so I called the AA RTW desk and moved HKG-SYD to the next day.

That�s good to know, and a reminder as always that OLCI causes more problems than it�s worth. The ONLY TIME it�s worth checking in online is if you have no bags and plan to be at the airport late so you can just go to security. (OK - to be fair - I was recently told - by a kid, no less! - that it�s good to OLCI in case you�re flying economy and they�re going to offload you to give your seat to another pax. maybe. lol)

I always try for OLCI so I can go right through security and into a lounge. It shouldn't be much extra time to undo a check-in in those instances where a change is needed after checking in. I suspect what caused the delay was that the RTW agent didn't have access to the operations system, as only some AA phone agents do, so had to call the airport and get an agent there to do it.

How things should be and how they are are often two very different things.

Well due to these RTW tickets I've got a few experiences of impressive checkins, aka a lot of boarding passes being printed: In this specific instance my LHR-DFW-LAX-JFK was considered one trip by AA (14 hours in LAX isn't a stopover) so in LHR I was checked-in all the way thru. After the change from LAX I was given boarding passes for LAX-JFK-YYZ-HKG. Ultimately in 58 hours I did all those segments and ~14k nmiles. So whether online check-in, or at a desk, you will still be considered checked in.

A similar one I was very "proud" of after the great LHR fire IRROPS I printed out SEA-LHR-MAN-LHR-DOH-HKG on an AONE at a desk, again, no stopovers just "transfers", we were all impressed (I lost a stopover in the UK, and a nested LHR-BAH-LHR , but kept my QR F segments).

Personally on RTW tickets I often try to do an check-in as a backup and to see if there are problems... I've had the AA desk forget to properly re-ticket with changes a few too many times to want to do that when there is a risk the AA desk is closed, since I live in Asia. 99% of the time go to the airport check-in desk anyway to get my paper boarding pass after too many issues with digital passes or phones in less popularly visited airports. CX, my home carrier, trains me well on this point anyway - if I do pure OLCI I can't board the plane without them doing a physical check anyway, so I may as well do that earlier on.

This.

as far as I know this is not enforced for RTW trips. The only exception being the Qantas LAX JFK service

Starting this trip on Monday with the majority of sectors being flown in the next 7 weeks. I'll report back and let everyone know the planned vs actual Avios & TP credits and how long it takes to get posted after each sector.

Depends who books it. In my experience, airlines won't allow codeshares on purely domestic flights that don't connect with an international flight booked with the same code, aside from permitting an AS code for an AA flight and vice-versa, presumably because both AA and AS have rights to sell domestic flights. Travel agents have booked such for me, and as far as I know no airline has penalized them for doing so.

Data point: RTW (Global Explorer) booked on Oneworld.com

OSL-HEL-DOH (AY)
DOH-HEL-LAX (AY)
LAX-SYD (AA)
SYD-PER (QF)
PER-ADL (QF)
ADL-MEL-HEL-OSL (QF/AY)

NOK 60891, ticketed by Qantas

Paid in GBP, charged �4966 after currency conversion.

I have a DONE4, booked directly with JL. I initially booked it with open-dated segments for flights that were not yet bookable. When I called JL last month to confirm those flights, they charged me $47.99 per passenger in "additional taxes". At the time of booking, each open segment was for a specific airline between two airports, which is supposed to allow accurate tax and airline overcharge calculation.

I called to move the last two flights (both on QR) to be one day earlier, and they quoted me $300 ad/col per passenger. That didn't seem right, so I declined and will try again. Is there any way that $300 can be correct? Massive new airline overcharges because of soaring fuel prices?