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Originally Posted by Dr. HFH
(Post 36335996)
This is one of the main reasons I stopped crediting to AA, and now credit everything to QRPC. 95+% of my flying is on xONEx tix.
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Originally Posted by ironmanjt (Post # 2326)
(Post 36335998)
BA and AY codes especially earn gangsta.
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Has anyone booked a xonex AS fare? Likely with a travel agent? I wonder if AS would require the same kind of overwater flight like AA does.
Also, for anyone crediting to AA, if you are using an independent travel agent... Aren't you affected by AA's ridiculously vague rule about where you book your tickets? Customers will earn miles and Loyalty Points on flights when they: Book directly with American and eligible partner airlines.Book travel anywhere as an AAdvantage Business™ member or contracted corporate traveler.Book through preferred travel agencies. American will share a list of eligible preferred agencies on aa.com in late April. |
Originally Posted by izzik
(Post 36336404)
Has anyone booked a xonex AS fare? Likely with a travel agent? I wonder if AS would require the same kind of overwater flight like AA does.
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Originally Posted by ironmanjt
(Post 36337227)
I’ve tried multiple times - AS doesn’t ticket RTW fares.
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Originally Posted by izzik
(Post 36338260)
You've tried how? Calling AS or using a TA?
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Originally Posted by ironmanjt
(Post 36338334)
Calling. AS doesn’t publish a fare so why would you want them to ticket someone else’s fare? Changes would be a nightmare if it were even possible. If you’re going to use a TA why the desire to ticket with AS?
Re: using a TA -- I don't know if having an AA-coded overwater segment is a requirement to using the AA xONEx fare.. or just a preference stated by the AA RTW desk. If it is the former, then it makes sense to explore the idea of an AS xONEx fare instead. If it's the latter, then nevermind. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...b3bc4f64ac.png |
Originally Posted by izzik
(Post 36338389)
Sorry, but this is what I'm going off of (re AS publishing xONEx fares). See screenshot.
Given they also don’t have a RTW desk and their elite agents told me they don’t do RTW fares it could easily be a pain to change just as QF is. |
Originally Posted by izzik
(Post 36336404)
Has anyone booked a xonex AS fare? Likely with a travel agent? I wonder if AS would require the same kind of overwater flight like AA does.
Originally Posted by izzik
(Post 36336404)
Customers will earn miles and Loyalty Points on flights when they: Book directly with American and eligible partner airlines.Book travel anywhere as an AAdvantage Business™ member or contracted corporate traveler.Book through preferred travel agencies. American will share a list of eligible preferred agencies on aa.com in late April.
Originally Posted by izzik
(Post 36338389)
Sorry, but this is what I'm going off of (re AS publishing xONEx fares). See screenshot.
Originally Posted by izzik
(Post 36338389)
Re: using a TA -- I don't know if having an AA-coded overwater segment is a requirement to using the AA xONEx fare.. or just a preference stated by the AA RTW desk.
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Originally Posted by ironmanjt
(Post 36338411)
Interesting. I never checked Tokyo, but they don’t publish South Africa, Norway, or Egypt.
Given they also don’t have a RTW desk and their elite agents told me they don’t do RTW fares it could easily be a pain to change just as QF is. Yes, it would be as bad as QF which is why I suggested the TA route. |
Originally Posted by izzik
(Post 36338542)
Actually I'm seeing AS DONEx for Oslo as well.
Yes, it would be as bad as QF which is why I suggested the TA route. Seems pretty clear if AA works for your needs that’s the easiest, but I still believe after a couple of these the deals can be so good I don’t even mind the 10 hours of my life spent on the phone w Qantas. Even at my standard billing rate 😂 |
So much to unravel here..
Originally Posted by Dr. HFH
(Post 36338466)
AFAICT, the only AS "over water" routes are between Hawaii and mainland U.S. The AA requirement for over water is TATL or TPAC.
Actually AS codes are on transatlantic flights too, for example. But this was all conjecture because we don't know if such requirements exist for booking AS RTW fares. I believe that AA dropped that plan when Mr. Raja left the company. Ok good to know. Even if EF is accurate in this regard, why would you want to book this fare with an airline that has basically no experience with the complicated rules that govern the fare? Nobody is suggesting that the fare be booked with AS agents. Full stop. The only scenario I'm suggesting is using a TA ( again, not AS agents) to price using the AS fare. Seeing as how the AA fares are required to have AA coded overwater segment, maybe the AS fares don't have such rules? I don't know, this is all open question. I believe that it's an unpublished requirement. Note that AA codeshares on other carriers' metal meet the requirement. Yes, I realize that. The point of considering AS over AA fares is to avoid AA coded flights that don't credit well with BA or AA programs. No other reason driving this exercise. |
Originally Posted by ironmanjt
(Post 36338557)
Very TAs are sophisticated and knowledgeable in these fares - and I don’t see any reason Alaska ticket stock would make anything better.
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Originally Posted by izzik
(Post 36338569)
Maybe lower surcharges? Maybe no minimum requirements on certain airline coded segments? I'm sure these are all easy to prove true/false with some experimentation and a TA.
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You're absolutely right. There's no point in pursuing any of these AS fares. A giant waste of time! Nothing to see here, folks.
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