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dvs7310 Jul 17, 2024 5:09 am

Thought it's worth note about CAI, sometime in the last week the lounge has changed from post security to pre security (different set of doors now). Give yourselves some extra time to get to your 'first' flights now. They say that there's a dedicated lane for lounge customers but if you know Egypt at all, it's not enforced whatsoever and a ridiculous exercise.

tboons Jul 19, 2024 5:49 pm

Anyone has tips or experience on pricing of one world, round the world from Nepal?

anc305 Jul 19, 2024 8:39 pm


Originally Posted by tboons (Post 36389522)
Anyone has tips or experience on pricing of one world, round the world from Nepal?

Current fares using CX if that is what you wanted

LGLOB26 CX L Round-Trip 2418.00(USD) E
LONE3 CX L Round-Trip 2418.00(USD) E
LGLOB29 CX L Round-Trip 2809.00(USD) E
LONE4 CX L Round-Trip 2809.00(USD) E
LGLOB34 CX L Round-Trip 3230.00(USD) E
LONE5 CX L Round-Trip 3230.00(USD) E
LGLOB39 CX L Round-Trip 3823.00(USD) E
LONE6 CX L Round-Trip 3823.00(USD) E
IGLOB26 CX I Round-Trip 5123.00(USD) B
ONE3 CX I Round-Trip 5123.00(USD) B
DONE3 CX D Round-Trip 5227.00(USD) B
DGLOB34 CX D Round-Trip 5808.00(USD) B
DONE4 CX D Round-Trip 5808.00(USD) B
DONE5 CX D Round-Trip 7078.00(USD) B
DONE6 CX D Round-Trip 8164.00(USD) B
AONE3 CX A Round-Trip 9712.00(USD) F
AGLOB34 CX A Round-Trip 11057.00(USD) F
AONE4 CX A Round-Trip 11057.00(USD) F
AONE5 CX A Round-Trip 12542.00(USD) F
AONE6 CX A Round-Trip 14465.00(USD) F


wandering_fred Jul 19, 2024 9:08 pm

After much back and forth, my DONE3 is issued with about two months to go.
OTOH with 7 segments (one surface with a purchased filler) on AA in the USA, what is the experience when flights get changed beyond normal connecting times.
This is particularly an issue as Mrs WF normally uses a walker (distances being the main problem) special assistance will be requested.
My TA has her fingers crossed concerning this set of flights for my wandering
Fred

tboons Jul 20, 2024 6:45 am


Originally Posted by anc305 (Post 36389739)
Current fares using CX if that is what you wanted

LGLOB26 CX L Round-Trip 2418.00(USD) E
LONE3 CX L Round-Trip 2418.00(USD) E
LGLOB29 CX L Round-Trip 2809.00(USD) E
LONE4 CX L Round-Trip 2809.00(USD) E
LGLOB34 CX L Round-Trip 3230.00(USD) E
LONE5 CX L Round-Trip 3230.00(USD) E
LGLOB39 CX L Round-Trip 3823.00(USD) E
LONE6 CX L Round-Trip 3823.00(USD) E
IGLOB26 CX I Round-Trip 5123.00(USD) B
ONE3 CX I Round-Trip 5123.00(USD) B
DONE3 CX D Round-Trip 5227.00(USD) B
DGLOB34 CX D Round-Trip 5808.00(USD) B
DONE4 CX D Round-Trip 5808.00(USD) B
DONE5 CX D Round-Trip 7078.00(USD) B
DONE6 CX D Round-Trip 8164.00(USD) B
AONE3 CX A Round-Trip 9712.00(USD) F
AGLOB34 CX A Round-Trip 11057.00(USD) F
AONE4 CX A Round-Trip 11057.00(USD) F
AONE5 CX A Round-Trip 12542.00(USD) F
AONE6 CX A Round-Trip 14465.00(USD) F


thanks! Is it considered good pricing?

izzik Jul 20, 2024 12:06 pm

Not bad but only if you are actually from the region. There are cheaper origination points.
It's not worth going out of your way to reposition to ktm.

paul4471 Jul 23, 2024 10:52 pm

Route (Sanity) Check: Hi Guys, looking to set up our next DONE5 and just wondering if the following route looks compliant:

NRT-xHKG-PER-CDG-MCT-AMM-DOH-CDG-MIA-HAV-MIA-ORD-YYZ-xHKG-DPS-xKUL-NRT

I'm within segments and I believe there are OW routes on all these. I'm just not sure about compliance with continent of origin rules.

Intention is to use AA to book and have the CDG-MIA as transcon on AA metal.

Appreciate any feedback.

ironmanjt Jul 23, 2024 10:58 pm


Originally Posted by paul4471 (Post 36400864)
Route (Sanity) Check: Hi Guys, looking to set up our next DONE5 and just wondering if the following route looks compliant:

NRT-xHKG-PER-CDG-MCT-AMM-DOH-CDG-MIA-HAV-MIA-ORD-YYZ-xHKG-DPS-xKUL-NRT

I'm within segments and I believe there are OW routes on all these. I'm just not sure about compliance with continent of origin rules.

Intention is to use AA to book and have the CDG-MIA as transcon on AA metal.

Appreciate any feedback.

I’d be skeptical AA will ticket with a turn to HAV. I know people think it’s “no big deal” these days but CBP often has different opinions.

danger Jul 23, 2024 11:02 pm


Originally Posted by paul4471 (Post 36400864)
Route (Sanity) Check: Hi Guys, looking to set up our next DONE5 and just wondering if the following route looks compliant:

NRT-xHKG-PER-CDG-MCT-AMM-DOH-CDG-MIA-HAV-MIA-ORD-YYZ-xHKG-DPS-xKUL-NRT

I'm within segments and I believe there are OW routes on all these. I'm just not sure about compliance with continent of origin rules.

Intention is to use AA to book and have the CDG-MIA as transcon on AA metal.

Appreciate any feedback.

The rules are pretty clear on Cuba and AA/AS:


IF A TICKET INCLUDES TRAVEL TO/FROM/VIA CUBA IT MAY NOT ALSO INCLUDE FLIGHT SEGMENTS FOR TRAVEL ON AMERICAN AIRLINES/AMERICAN EAGLE OPERATED BY ENVOY AIR/COMPASS AIRLINES/MESA AIRLINES/PIEDMONT AIRLINES/PSA AIRLINES/REPUBLIC AIRWAYS/SKYWEST AIRLINES OR ALASKA AIRLINES/ALASKA AIRLINES OPERATED BY HORIZON AIR/SKYWEST DUE TO U.S GOVERNMENT RESTRICTIONS. ANY SUCH TICKET WILL NOT BE HONOURED BY AA OR AS AND CANNOT BE USED TO TRAVEL ON AA OR AS.

paul4471 Jul 24, 2024 12:16 am


Originally Posted by danger (Post 36400877)
The rules are pretty clear on Cuba and AA/AS:

OK thanks for that I had no idea it was still an issue. I just saw that AA fly there and assumed all good (I now see tourism is not a valid travel reason). Ok well we can just change HAV for SJO and go somewhere different (I already have Sudan in my Aussie passport and that has been 10yrs of CBP pain - I don't need more).

So route would instead be:

NRT-xHKG-PER-CDG-MCT-AMM-DOH-CDG-MIA-SJO-MIA-ORD-YYZ-xHKG-DPS-xKUL-NRT

Look workable?

R2 Jul 24, 2024 1:40 am


Originally Posted by paul4471 (Post 36400967)
So route would instead be:

NRT-xHKG-PER-CDG-MCT-AMM-DOH-CDG-MIA-SJO-MIA-ORD-YYZ-xHKG-DPS-xKUL-NRT

Look workable?

Your routing looks fine except Oman Air is not yet in oneworld so you'd need to wait till they are in to have this ticketed. Also, I don't see any direct AA flight CDG-MIA.

dvs7310 Jul 24, 2024 1:44 am


Originally Posted by paul4471 (Post 36400967)
OK thanks for that I had no idea it was still an issue. I just saw that AA fly there and assumed all good (I now see tourism is not a valid travel reason). Ok well we can just change HAV for SJO and go somewhere different (I already have Sudan in my Aussie passport and that has been 10yrs of CBP pain - I don't need more).

So route would instead be:

NRT-xHKG-PER-CDG-MCT-AMM-DOH-CDG-MIA-SJO-MIA-ORD-YYZ-xHKG-DPS-xKUL-NRT

Look workable?

Cuba is not a problem for a non-US citizen as long as you don't fly there to / from the US, and not on this ticket. But if you want to go from Mexico or Canada as many people do, it's a non-issue, they won't even stamp your passport so no evidence of your visit. I know plenty of people who have been to Cuba on non-US passports and visit the US quite regularly.

The Sudan ban has also been rescinded, but a stamp may still draw scrutiny from CBP officers when they actually look at your passport. But these days they rarely even open mine or my partner's (mine is US, hers is Japanese). They primarily just use the facial recognition now.

As for your itinerary, I assume you're waiting until WY joins before issuing it (CDG-MCT)? You only have 1 stopover in Asia so that restriction is not a problem. But I'm pretty sure you have too many segments in Europe / ME. I cout 5 there, you'd need to do one of them as a surface segment or drop AMM or DOH. Those are quite reasonably priced in economy with either AA miles or Avios, but for business (first) only AA for QR flights, but either AA or Avios are fine for an RJ flight. For QR, both BA or QR price it as First, not business and the cost is outrageous. I'd likely recommend doing MCT-AMM as your surface segment since AMM-DOH on QR will grant you Al Safwa lounge access.

pandaperth Jul 24, 2024 3:00 am


Originally Posted by paul4471 (Post 36400967)
OK thanks for that I had no idea it was still an issue. I just saw that AA fly there and assumed all good (I now see tourism is not a valid travel reason). Ok well we can just change HAV for SJO and go somewhere different (I already have Sudan in my Aussie passport and that has been 10yrs of CBP pain - I don't need more).

So route would instead be:

NRT-xHKG-PER-CDG-MCT-AMM-DOH-CDG-MIA-SJO-MIA-ORD-YYZ-xHKG-DPS-xKUL-NRT

Look workable?


Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 36401075)
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The Sudan ban has also been rescinded, but a stamp may still draw scrutiny from CBP officers when they actually look at your passport. But these days they rarely even open mine or my partner's (mine is US, hers is Japanese). They primarily just use the facial recognition now.

Yay! Do you have a link to a statement by the US Government?
(I visited Sudan in 2013 - to start a cheap DONE5 from KRT - and since 2017 I have had to get a visa for the US because of it. No problem getting the visa and no problem entering the US, but a pain nonetheless

But I'm pretty sure you have too many segments in Europe / ME. I count 5 there,
I count four segments CDG-MCT-AMM-DOH-CDG

pandaperth Jul 24, 2024 3:20 am

RATS!

[QUOTE] Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015



Under the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015, travelers in the following categories must obtain a visa prior to traveling to the United States as they are no longer eligible to travel under the Visa Waiver Program (VWP):

dvs7310 Jul 24, 2024 4:13 am


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 36401191)
Yay! Do you have a link to a statement by the US Government?
(I visited Sudan in 2013 - to start a cheap DONE5 from KRT - and since 2017 I have had to get a visa for the US because of it. No problem getting the visa and no problem entering the US, but a pain nonetheless

I count four segments CDG-MCT-AMM-DOH-CDG

Ah, you're right on segments, not sure how I counted 5 earlier.

[QUOTE=pandaperth;36401221]

RATS!



Under the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015, travelers in the following categories must obtain a visa prior to traveling to the United States as they are no longer eligible to travel under the Visa Waiver Program (VWP):
Ok, what I saw then was just rescinding the ban on citizens of those countries then it seems, I thought it was an executive order to remove the entire thing. Agree, that would be a major PITA to deal with getting the visa.

Cuba though should not be a problem since they don't stamp for that exact reason, but maybe best to avoid flying there from a Five Eyes country.


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