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ironmanjt Jun 21, 2024 4:44 pm


Originally Posted by Gardyloo (Post 36321383)
If you have time in Nome, try to get a vehicle and drive out a couple of the roads that lead into the Seward Peninsula bush - maybe the Nome - Council Road to the "last train to nowhere" or the Kougarok Road to Pilgrim Hot Springs - lots of wildlife in the area, especially musk oxen.

Yup, planning to go out to Council weather and roads permitting for sure! Thanks to all in this group who gave me advice.

Dr. HFH Jun 21, 2024 8:15 pm


Originally Posted by ironmanjt (Post 36320785)
Nope. Many fares have similar wording. The fare doesn’t lock until the first segment using that fare basis is flown. If you make any change of any sort before flying the first segment it will trigger a refare.


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 36320941)
All due respect and all that, but I disagree ironmanjt

Is this a distinction without a difference? Obviously you can only change the first segment if you haven't flown it yet.

ironmanjt Jun 21, 2024 8:35 pm


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 36321664)
Is this a distinction without a difference? Obviously you can only change the first segment if you haven't flown it yet.

Yes. The discussion wasn’t about changes to the first segments. It was if you can date change future segments for free before flying the first. It’s clear you can after flying it.

dvs7310 Jun 21, 2024 11:18 pm


Originally Posted by ironmanjt (Post 36321005)
Not looking forward to:

7+ hours with MH...but maybe they'll surprise me!

I got rerouted and flew them on the DOH-KUL segment due to an RJ cancellation in January and was very pleasantly surprised. It definitely helped though that QR hadn't sold a single seat in business on the flight so there were only 2 people in the whole cabin (the other was the Malaysian sports minister). I thought the service was good, food perfectly fine, and seat comfortable (A330).

ironmanjt Jun 21, 2024 11:58 pm


Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 36321854)
I got rerouted and flew them on the DOH-KUL segment due to an RJ cancellation in January and was very pleasantly surprised. It definitely helped though that QR hadn't sold a single seat in business on the flight so there were only 2 people in the whole cabin (the other was the Malaysian sports minister). I thought the service was good, food perfectly fine, and seat comfortable (A330).

Thanks - gives me some hope. The seat is “ok” - I’ve flown it before. Certainly not internationally the best like Q-Suites or even private products like Polaris or NH. But I have the 1K throne so it’ll be more than acceptable for a daytime.

I’ve read that the food can be pretty grim, but gonna try and be glass half full about this. I haven’t actually flown them long haul since around 2005 when I did first on the 747 from LAX so it’ll be a nice chance to see!

kayzng Jun 22, 2024 12:47 am


Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 36321854)
I got rerouted and flew them on the DOH-KUL segment due to an RJ cancellation in January and was very pleasantly surprised. It definitely helped though that QR hadn't sold a single seat in business on the flight so there were only 2 people in the whole cabin (the other was the Malaysian sports minister). I thought the service was good, food perfectly fine, and seat comfortable (A330).

Nice to hear
As Malaysian, i flew DOH-KUL, KUL-DOH, 16x in total. 1x in MH, the rest in QR. Once i did Qsuites, hard to go back to MH. It doesnt help when sometimes MH price is higher than QR.

kayzng Jun 22, 2024 12:49 am


Originally Posted by ironmanjt (Post 36321881)
Thanks - gives me some hope. The seat is “ok” - I’ve flown it before. Certainly not internationally the best like Q-Suites or even private products like Polaris or NH. But I have the 1K throne so it’ll be more than acceptable for a daytime.

I’ve read that the food can be pretty grim, but gonna try and be glass half full about this. I haven’t actually flown them long haul since around 2005 when I did first on the 747 from LAX so it’ll be a nice chance to see!

chose your seat early, to you can get the throne seat

Perisai Jun 22, 2024 3:04 am


Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 36317710)
[...] Might get tempted if there's another strong swing somewhere though and just book for next spring / summer, my primary reluctance in booking too far out is that I will have to use QF and they only allow changes to a year from ticketing vs. the correct 1 year from first departure. [...]

You scared me there - a lot!
Luckily (rightly) QF didn't have any issue with changing a number of flights on my exCAI DONEx to past 1 year of the issuing date; the last flight will be something like 14 months after the ticketing date.

Disclaimer: This was only changes in the dates of the flights, routing remained the same, and since I've already started the ticket, no repricing or change fee was needed. No idea how they would have handled route changes.

kayzng Jun 22, 2024 3:08 am


Originally Posted by Perisai (Post 36322076)
You scared me there - a lot!
Luckily (rightly) QF didn't have any issue with changing a number of flights on my exCAI DONEx to past 1 year of the issuing date; the last flight will be something like 14 months after the ticketing date.

Disclaimer: This was only changes in the dates of the flights, routing remained the same, and since I've already started the ticket, no repricing or change fee was needed. No idea how they would have handled route changes.

changing dates or time are fine, they can do it. Might be a bit reluctant, but if you push or soft talk, they will do it.

dvs7310 Jun 22, 2024 3:12 am


Originally Posted by Perisai (Post 36322076)
You scared me there - a lot!
Luckily (rightly) QF didn't have any issue with changing a number of flights on my exCAI DONEx to past 1 year of the issuing date; the last flight will be something like 14 months after the ticketing date.

Disclaimer: This was only changes in the dates of the flights, routing remained the same, and since I've already started the ticket, no repricing or change fee was needed. No idea how they would have handled route changes.

That's a good data point. Earlier on when the ex-CAI frenzy was happening, they were telling people it's 1 year from ticketing, despite the xONEx rules saying differently. I reckon you may be the first to have actually tried it post ticketing.

Weltrekord Jun 22, 2024 4:19 am

i actually have a followup question. What are the rights if you have flight canellations? For example, i have a flight connecting via HEL, could i change it to connect via LHR as part of the flight canellation i got? I am rarely flying oneworld therefore i don't know the generall procedures (which i also don't know if they would be applied on a RTW ticket).

dvs7310 Jun 22, 2024 8:23 am


Originally Posted by Weltrekord (Post 36322165)
i actually have a followup question. What are the rights if you have flight cancelations? For example, i have a flight connecting via HEL, could i change it to connect via LHR as part of the flight cancellation i got? I am rarely flying oneworld therefore i don't know the generall procedures (which i also don't know if they would be applied on a RTW ticket).

Who issued your ticket? I have 2 experiences of an involuntary change with a QF ticket and they were pretty good about dealing with it. One time they let me bundle in several other changes that would otherwise be chargeable, the other time they didn't, they processed the invol first then went back to the other changes I wanted (that were chargeable).

On my CX ticket I don't think I ever had any significant airline cancellations / changes so never came up, but CX has generally been pretty decent to deal with anyway.

Weltrekord Jun 22, 2024 9:33 am


Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 36322438)
Who issued your ticket? I have 2 experiences of an involuntary change with a QF ticket and they were pretty good about dealing with it. One time they let me bundle in several other changes that would otherwise be chargeable, the other time they didn't, they processed the invol first then went back to the other changes I wanted (that were chargeable).

On my CX ticket I don't think I ever had any significant airline cancellations / changes so never came up, but CX has generally been pretty decent to deal with anyway.

One is RJ where a 2h connection turned into a 25h layover (could i use it to generate a stopover, even if not intended at first?) and second is AY from LAX. The routing actually would be SEA-LAX-HEL-ZRH but i had to set it up by booking SEA-LAX and LAX-HEL-ZRH. Ideally i would change it to SEA-LHR-ZRH but i assume that would not be possible as i made it a manual transit? Or do you have a different experience? Thanks for the help!

ironmanjt Jun 22, 2024 9:39 am


Originally Posted by kayzng (Post 36321926)
chose your seat early, to you can get the throne seat

Did you miss that I said at least I have 1K the throne seat? :D

That said, idk what some people are thinking. Cabin is 75% full, and two of the thrones are still available :confused:

dvs7310 Jun 22, 2024 11:23 am


Originally Posted by Weltrekord (Post 36322568)
One is RJ where a 2h connection turned into a 25h layover (could i use it to generate a stopover, even if not intended at first?) and second is AY from LAX. The routing actually would be SEA-LAX-HEL-ZRH but i had to set it up by booking SEA-LAX and LAX-HEL-ZRH. Ideally i would change it to SEA-LHR-ZRH but i assume that would not be possible as i made it a manual transit? Or do you have a different experience? Thanks for the help!

That didn't really answer my question. You're on a xONEx RTW ticket, correct? Which airline issued the ticket?

It's impossible for us to guess at the ease or difficulty in getting it fixed without that info.

The RJ one would easily be eligible for a re-route unless you actually want to spend a day in Jordan. I've been there a few times and it's a very nice country and plenty you can do in 24 hours, but up to you. The visa is slightly expensive in my opinion compared to others in the region. Very high chance you can re-route it on QR which is a FAR FAR superior airline. RJ is about as basic and old school as it gets in business class these days. QR on the other hand is top notch.

For your second one with AY, I'm not exactly following what you mean by manual transit. Your original routing, despite having to enter it like you did will still be a transit on the ticket, not a stopover. Your proposed re-reroute seems viable, but I'm not sure Id' advise it depending on the BA product on that route. Unless it's BA's new Club Suite, the old one is God awful. AY flies to SEA as well don't they? You can also re-route it on QR via DOH if you're after extra miles and a better flight experience. (Yeah A LOT longer in the air, so again priorities do matter)



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