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slhu82 Sep 22, 2025 5:42 pm


Originally Posted by izzik (Post 37315593)
It said it was ticketed.

Do you have ticket number, confirmation code, and are you able to select seats?

pandaperth Sep 22, 2025 7:46 pm


Originally Posted by steveholt (Post 37333115)
Have the currency fluctuations in Argentina created any reasonable RTW opportunities?

Unfortunately no.
For the whole of the Americas, except Canada, the base fares are quoted in USD.

izzik Sep 23, 2025 4:31 am


Originally Posted by slhu82 (Post 37333752)
Do you have ticket number, confirmation code, and are you able to select seats?

Yes x3

zoombee Sep 26, 2025 11:22 am

I'm not sure which thread is right for this, I have a CX issued DONE4. Date changes have been no issue via whatsapp (and once by calling), though they bave been understandly swamped post dramatic weather issues. What I'm struggling with now and would love advice on (I have no CX status) is convincing the non xONEx knowledgeable person to ask someone about availability on flights which show a D9 on expertflyer with the POS set to where I started my xONEx AND moreover show as available on a dummy new booking via https://rtw.oneworld.com/rtw/choose-flight

An example of what the agent tiold me: as this will involve another airline, we see what is allocated for us. Also, ticket stocks for new booking and for rebooking are different. It matters since we only rely on the ticket stocks that are available for us to sell in to passengers.

LilZeppelin Sep 26, 2025 1:07 pm


Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 37310254)
Might need some screenshots, because what you linked in the T&C's still says OR.

It was AND before 2025 it is OR now.
And since segments rule can be met flying 8 segments within past 24 months, it means I only need to construct a RTW with 3 QR segments on my next RTW having nearly finished the second ex-Cairo RTW. Is Oslo and Tokyo still the lowest DONEs out there?

littlevoices Sep 26, 2025 5:38 pm


Originally Posted by zoombee (Post 37340431)
What I'm struggling with now and would love advice on (I have no CX status) is convincing the non xONEx knowledgeable person to ask someone about availability on flights which show a D9 on expertflyer with the POS set to where I started my xONEx AND moreover show as available on a dummy new booking via https://rtw.oneworld.com/rtw/choose-flight

An example of what the agent tiold me: as this will involve another airline, we see what is allocated for us. Also, ticket stocks for new booking and for rebooking are different. It matters since we only rely on the ticket stocks that are available for us to sell in to passengers.

In your case if you can see it on the RTW tool it seems to be most likely an agent issue, I think CX regulars would normally do a HUCA (Hang Up, Call Again) - which you can do on the WhatsApp by just letting it time out. However, I did want to make you aware, in case its an a variant of this problem where what ExpertFlyer shows doesn't always seem to be what's available for booking. I did think this was constrained to AA though: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onew...king-tool.html


dvs7310 Sep 27, 2025 12:21 am


Originally Posted by zoombee (Post 37340431)
I'm not sure which thread is right for this, I have a CX issued DONE4. Date changes have been no issue via whatsapp (and once by calling), though they bave been understandly swamped post dramatic weather issues. What I'm struggling with now and would love advice on (I have no CX status) is convincing the non xONEx knowledgeable person to ask someone about availability on flights which show a D9 on expertflyer with the POS set to where I started my xONEx AND moreover show as available on a dummy new booking via https://rtw.oneworld.com/rtw/choose-flight

An example of what the agent tiold me: as this will involve another airline, we see what is allocated for us. Also, ticket stocks for new booking and for rebooking are different. It matters since we only rely on the ticket stocks that are available for us to sell in to passengers.

CX has a OW desk, though not all agents know this, maybe even most agents don't know this. So when you tell them to refer it to the OW desk who handles more complex xONEx changes, many don't know how.

It's definitely a HUCA situation until you find someone who understands. The OW desk will call you back on the phone to confirm the changes and any fees. In my case I made changes to ticketed points and they still didn't charge me any fees for it.

But as Littlevoices said as well, I'd check it in the OW tool first, because we know that Expertflyer isn't perfect for RTW availability due to point of origin issues that it doesn't have access to. So you'd need to plug in a proxy itinerary similar to your current one to get accurate availability.

anabolism Sep 27, 2025 1:40 pm


Originally Posted by zoombee (Post 37340431)
I'm not sure which thread is right for this, I have a CX issued DONE4. Date changes have been no issue via whatsapp (and once by calling), though they bave been understandly swamped post dramatic weather issues. What I'm struggling with now and would love advice on (I have no CX status) is convincing the non xONEx knowledgeable person to ask someone about availability on flights which show a D9 on expertflyer with the POS set to where I started my xONEx AND moreover show as available on a dummy new booking via https://rtw.oneworld.com/rtw/choose-flight

One thing to check is availability in EF using a PoS of the country of the CX office you are calling, e.g., HKG if calling their HKG office (I'm not sure where Whatsapp contacts are handled). You could also check PoS U.S. and if it shows available, call CX's U.S. number. Likewise for other countries.I'd suggest verifying EF availability for PoSin a country where CX has an office, then calling that office.

jacket6 Sep 28, 2025 4:48 am

Hi all, seeking some advice on how I could optimise the YQ/YR on this DONE4 itinerary via codeshares and ticketing carrier, for now this is what I have planned to optimise points earn on AY. The advice I've been reading on the forum has been highly insightful and appreciated.

OSL-QR-DOH-QR-DUB-QR-xDOH-QR-GRU / SCL-QF-SYD-AA-ZQN / CHC-AA-xSYD-BA-HKG-CX-HKT-CX-HKG-AA-SIN-AA-xHND-BA-xLHR-AA-OSL

AY earns the most on AA,BA,IB, which I've chosen where possible, but unsure if this is feasible on all these flights or if I am being overly ambitious. Also reading that issuing it on QR via Sabre would avoid other carriers' surcharges, how easy is it to find a TA that can do that? Open to suggestions on how to tweak the itinerary if necessary. Thanks all in advance.

Mwenenzi Sep 28, 2025 1:37 pm


Originally Posted by jacket6 (Post 37343096)
Hi all, seeking some advice on how I could optimise the YQ/YR on this DONE4 itinerary via codeshares and ticketing carrier, for now this is what I have planned to optimise points earn on AY. The advice I've been reading on the forum has been highly insightful and appreciated.
OSL-QR-DOH-QR-DUB-QR-xDOH-QR-GRU / SCL-QF-SYD-AA-ZQN / CHC-AA-xSYD-BA-HKG-CX-HKT-CX-HKG-AA-SIN-AA-xHND-BA-xLHR-AA-OSL

AY earns the most on AA,BA,IB, which I've chosen where possible, but unsure if this is feasible on all these flights or if I am being overly ambitious. Also reading that issuing it on QR via Sabre would avoid other carriers' surcharges, how easy is it to find a TA that can do that? Open to suggestions on how to tweak the itinerary if necessary. Thanks all in advance.

ZQN CHC by land is a waste of a segment. Is counted in the 16 allowable. Note CX fly AKL-HKG and CHC-HKG seasonably (summer).

Have you checked code shares are all available on the routes listed?
Example SYD-(BA)-HKG which is flown by QF and CX, but not BA. SYD-HKG CX110 does as AY5092, BA4132, OM5604

Also reading that issuing it on QR via Sabre would avoid other carriers' surcharges
Read where? Link?

http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=c%3Ablu...=bm&PW=3&DU=mi

jacket6 Sep 29, 2025 3:58 am


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 37343761)
ZQN CHC by land is a waste of a segment. Is counted in the 16 allowable. Note CX fly AKL-HKG and CHC-HKG seasonably (summer).

Have you checked code shares are all available on the routes listed?
Example SYD-(BA)-HKG which is flown by QF and CX, but not BA. SYD-HKG CX110 does as AY5092, BA4132, OM5604

Yep, might change ZQN-CHC into the same airport to avoid the surface segment, though I'm not sure where I would use that freed up segment, given that I've already used up the max allowance for flights within Europe and Asia, and have time constraints surrounding how long I will stay in Oceania. Perhaps I could make a detour via NAN to maximise points earn, will have a deeper look. Also wish to try the new Aria Suites which only fly to SYD and MEL currently, hence not taking the NZ-HKG CX flights.

I believe the codeshares all exist, but the only thing I don't know is if I actually have this freedom to nitpick the codeshares for every flight I want, or if there are some married segment logic or requirement to link it with a prime flight of that carrier. Not sure I understand your example on the SYD-HKG routing, as your example of the CX flight shows a BA code like I have in my itinerary. Same way I wrote AA between HKG and SIN, which is obviously operated by CX. The reason for this is that AA, BA, IB codes earn double the tier points vs CX, QF, JL, etc. on AY, so I'm trying to pick these codes where possible. Not sure if this has YQ/YR implications, especially with BA's reputation of high surcharges on their own flights, do these apply to codeshares too? This


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 37343761)
Read where? Link?

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/37292353-post1122.html
Saw this post mentioning QR-issued tickets only have YQ/YR levied on QR and BA sectors, unsure if that's universally applicable or if I've misunderstood.

Dr. HFH Sep 29, 2025 5:37 am


Originally Posted by jacket6 (Post 37344611)
. . . but the only thing I don't know is if I actually have this freedom to nitpick the codeshares for every flight I want, or if there are some married segment logic or requirement to link it with a prime flight of that carrier.

You do not have the freedom to select any codeshare on any flight. Most (but not all) of the time, codeshares require a connection to or from a prime flight of the codeshare you want. I haven't yet figured out any pattern or logic to this, however. Like you, I try to select codeshares to maximize the mileage I earn (in my case, in QRPC). Sometimes I can get them, sometimes not. Never hurts to try, however.

izzik Sep 29, 2025 11:26 am

codeshare selection really depends on who is ticketing.. travel agent or airline agent.

zoombee Sep 30, 2025 9:38 am


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 37342193)
One thing to check is availability in EF using a PoS of the country of the CX office you are calling, e.g., HKG if calling their HKG office (I'm not sure where Whatsapp contacts are handled). You could also check PoS U.S. and if it shows available, call CX's U.S. number. Likewise for other countries.I'd suggest verifying EF availability for PoSin a country where CX has an office, then calling that office.

tnx. The issue was that some agents were just totally divorced from reality but 6 hours later another agent wasn't, but none till today stayed online with me long enough to get 5 date changes onto my ticket and pass it on for pricing. Now -- today, a full 8 days of going round in circles -- an agent stayed online enough to put in dates and pass it over for pricing. I'm banking on the back office contacting me so I can have a synchronous conversation about real dates and ticketing all in one.

littlevoices Oct 1, 2025 6:25 am

Full route booked (for 4, cost per adult = ~USD7.5k; so a lot of fuel surcharges)
OSL-DOH-HKG // HKG-CMB-SIN-HKG // HKG-AKL-NAN-MEL-HKG // HKG-JFK-ORD-ANC-SEA-DOH-OSL
(Return from another RTW) // 1 week CNY Holiday // 2 week Easter Holiday // 2.5week Summer holiday and return

Other points to note:
  1. In general, even 9 months in advance, Alaska Airlines are very stingy with their D class availability on direct flights out of ANC - Near impossible to get even ANC-SEA, but the moment you do ANC-SEA-LAX or ANC-SEA-DFW, lots more space. This was frustrating as my ambition here was an Alaska visit in July, busy times clearly (maybe not helped with the football world cup)
  2. Continuing problems with Trans-conntential availability remains, over a 5 day period couldn't find a single flight (admittedly I need 4 business tickets) from JFK/BOS to LAX or SFO. In the end I had to accept defeat and do JFK-ORD-ANC, rather than JFK-SFO-ANC that I could find on EF). Maybe they're blocking for the world cup?
  3. No enforcement of AA codeshare across an ocean (all of my US flights were AA or AA codeshare)
  4. I had to do this twice as the first agent (after the HUCA) seemed to be doing a good job, but actually hadn't: She had missed an entire flight out; had one flight taking off before I landed, and misspelt a name (which leads to a restart). The second agent, who I've had before, was great and fixed it all as quickly as possible when I called back ten minutes later after viewing online (the other agent was too keen to get me off)
  5. The ticket cost vs fuel surcharge are wrong and so I'll need to call back when I have the energy (children's fuel surcharges are more than adults, but one adult looks to have paid a child fare). The overall amounts are probably correct, but not how they're split... Edit: Yes, looks like one of the adults was classed as a child when I called, maybe I entered passport details incorrectly, or the agent copy/pasted across. God knows what that means. The fuel surcharges are still the wrong way around too, so it's with AA to decide what to do. I have a horror of having to redo this all again, or splitting the ticket to fix the adult fare. Sigh :(. Maybe the tip there is: Don't enter passport information until AFTER ticketing.


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