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Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
(Post 37296658)
What route? Airlines? Stopover vs transit.
It may be an invalid xONEx route, but OK for GLOB.. But the "34000 miles" is often a generic error messgae: |
Check the airpots?
Originally Posted by wijibintheair
(Post 37297377)
The route I was trying to work on was OSL-xHEL-HND-SIN-HKG-LAX-ANC-DFW-SFO-JFK-xDOH-MAD-xDOH-OSL - as far as I understand a perfectly valid XONE3 - doing it that way won't even let me get to the choose dates screen as it says I cannot have more than 2 stopovers in the continent of origin. When I try inputting OSL-HND-SIN-HKG-LAX-ANC-DFW-SFO-JFK-MAD-DOH-OSL it will allow me to go to choosing flights but then displays the message in the pic shown.
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Originally Posted by dvs7310
(Post 37297186)
You're indeed correct, it is a Sabre issue. The travel agent I am working with was able to find the errors in the route map that you mentioned and has elevated them to Sabre support, but they need to talk to QR and RJ (the airlines involved in the examples we presented). We got it to price in Amadeus finally, but had to remove one TYO stopover to get it, so even Amadeus still seems imperfect on this routing.
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Originally Posted by UserMark
(Post 37298510)
And.... can you ask your agent where I can find documentation to understand the numerical route maps?
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Originally Posted by wijibintheair
(Post 37297377)
The route I was trying to work on was OSL-xHEL-HND-SIN-HKG-LAX-ANC-DFW-SFO-JFK-xDOH-MAD-xDOH-OSL - as far as I understand a perfectly valid XONE3 - doing it that way won't even let me get to the choose dates screen as it says I cannot have more than 2 stopovers in the continent of origin. When I try inputting OSL-HND-SIN-HKG-LAX-ANC-DFW-SFO-JFK-MAD-DOH-OSL it will allow me to go to choosing flights but then displays the message in the pic shown.
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Is there any particular reason we're discussing experiences (frustrations) of the online tool in this thread, rather than the thread dedicated to that very topic?
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Originally Posted by ernestnywang
(Post 37298793)
I have the recollection that there's a Sabre command for this, but I can't remember it anymore. Anyway, I found the definition here: https://support.travelport.com/webhe...ones_Areas.htm
220-*O-210/220-*O-210/220-*O-310/320/330/350-*O-310/ 320/330/350-*O-310/320/330/350-*O-310/320/330/350-*O- 310/320/330/350-*O-000/140/160-*O-000/140/160-*O-000/ 140/160-*O-000/140/160-*O-000/140/160-*O-000/140/160- *O-*PA-*O-*LY-*O-*LY-*O-220 Now I know what the 3 digit codes are, but what are things like *O, *PA, and *LY ? |
Originally Posted by UserMark
(Post 37299074)
Wow, thank you so much for that, it's really interesting. Now I understand half of what I'm seeing. Maybe someone can fill in the rest, and I hope others find this info useful too. I looked at the routing rules for a DONE3 from CAI. There are 4 options, and this is one of them:
220-*O-210/220-*O-210/220-*O-310/320/330/350-*O-310/ 320/330/350-*O-310/320/330/350-*O-310/320/330/350-*O- 310/320/330/350-*O-000/140/160-*O-000/140/160-*O-000/ 140/160-*O-000/140/160-*O-000/140/160-*O-000/140/160- *O-*PA-*O-*LY-*O-*LY-*O-220 Now I know what the 3 digit codes are, but what are things like *O, *PA, and *LY ? I believe *PA and *LY mean Panama and Libya, respectively. They are specifically written out because Panama is part of North America for xONEx purposes but part of South America according to IATA, while Libya is part of Middle East for xONEx purposes but part of Africa according to IATA. Note the routings list "allowed" points (except origin and final destination), not points you have to travel through. There are 499 (not 4) allowed routings for an ex-CAI DONE3. You cannot mix and match from these 499 possibilities, but you can skip any point in between. |
Originally Posted by danger
(Post 37299057)
Is there any particular reason we're discussing experiences (frustrations) of the online tool in this thread, rather than the thread dedicated to that very topic?
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Originally Posted by zoombee
(Post 37299308)
I believe it is no more complicated than some people don't notice in a busy thread, some people don't overly agree with rules and being organised, xome people care but less so than replying when they have someone to contribute. I've been shot down a few times trying to nudge things to thr dedicated thread so no longer bother. The mods set the tone and have the authority and power to do so.
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Originally Posted by danger
(Post 37299311)
Helpful. Thank you. I like to be organised too but if that's not the approach here, at least I know.
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Privilege Club calculation
LilZeppelin - thanks for the advice and just curious, how did you come up with the 712 Qpoints number? Running things through the Privilege Club calculator I got something like 500 Qpoints (enough for Gold but not Platinum) but I certainly may have missed something.
(edit: oops I didn't quote the original message but — AA codes on HND-DFW-DTW-ORD-SFO-JFK-DOH; then QR on DOH-TBS-DOH-MUC-DOH-BKK; then AA on BKK-HND, all in D class) |
Originally Posted by milhouse10000
(Post 37300495)
LilZeppelin - I got something like 500 Qpoints (enough for Gold but not Platinum)
Booking as AA codeshare gives more Qpoints, but in addition to not meeting the condition to have 20% of QR-marketed and operated flights, one also cannot easily assign Qsuites as the middle aisle ones are blocked for QR-marketed bookings in my experience. |
Originally Posted by LilZeppelin
(Post 37309230)
Your calculation is correct: The ticket will give you 524 Qpoints, of which 118 earned and operated by QR (76qpoints short of Platinum, in addition 2 Qpoints short of QR marketed and operated flights).
Booking as AA codeshare gives more Qpoints, but in addition to not meeting the condition to have 20% of QR-marketed and operated flights, one also cannot easily assign Qsuites as the middle aisle ones are blocked for QR-marketed bookings in my experience. So really they just need to find another 76 Qpoints from any source on a separate ticket(s) if they want Platinum The 20% clause is really only useful if someone were doing something like only 2x really long haul QR segments on a RTW, like LAX-DOH-AKL as an example. That'd cover your 20% as you need 120 and that gives 186. |
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