Booked a new ex-OSL DONE4 with AA yesterday. I wanted to fly LAX-SYD on QF12 on December 1 and ExpertFlyer was showing D9 (and J9 C9), but the AA agent said that nothing in business class was available, not even J/C classes. We checked all through December 12 and still nothing. Had to book AA73 instead just to get it finished, but not happy about it due to higher taxes and worse J experience. Is this a tool glitch or QF limiting access somehow?
QF's surcharges on LAX-SYD are significantly higher than AA when booked as part of a DONE4. I know what the fuel surcharges say, but the difference between booking AA and QF on this routing is about $1200 US cheaper on the AA side.
wandering_fred
Sep 5, 2023 9:54 pm
I wonder what AA is planning on SYD-LAX.
I have P class seats ex SYD late Sep and exLAX mid Oct. The AA code shares on QF are still showing open availability, but there are no business seats available on AA and limited W/P class. I wonder what the on departure upgrade opportunities will be? Or even if I will swapped over to the AA code shares on QF?
Interesting times to be wandering
Fred
ernestnywang
Sep 6, 2023 12:36 pm
Originally Posted by jrobin
(Post 35555892)
AA-booked Oneworld Explorer showed D availability on JL HND-SGN-HND, but AA agent was unable to book seats, so the agent (not unhappily) was able instead to book AA 8493 and AA 8494 codeshares on JL.
Now the AA website cannot assign seats, and the JL site says "No Seat selection for this flight".
How do I get seats assigned for AA Codeshares on JL? Or does JL only allow seat selection if you book with them?
For AA*/JL flights, you have to call AA to get seat assignment. JL has a strict policy (unlike most other airlines I know of) to not help reserve seat when marketing carrier is not JL.
skunker
Sep 6, 2023 1:15 pm
Originally Posted by jrobin
(Post 35555892)
AA-booked Oneworld Explorer showed D availability on JL HND-SGN-HND, but AA agent was unable to book seats, so the agent (not unhappily) was able instead to book AA 8493 and AA 8494 codeshares on JL.
Now the AA website cannot assign seats, and the JL site says "No Seat selection for this flight".
How do I get seats assigned for AA Codeshares on JL? Or does JL only allow seat selection if you book with them?
You used to be able to do it via the JL website but you had to use the JL flight number. Another quirk was the naming convention. I believe it to get it to work I had to use FIRSTNAMEMIDDLENAME with no spaces for the given name field.
ernestnywang
Sep 6, 2023 1:32 pm
Originally Posted by skunker
(Post 35558807)
You used to be able to do it via the JL website but you had to use the JL flight number.
But you have to have a JL prime flight in your PNR, and even then I recall some problems, although I don't remember the specifics.
jrobin
Sep 6, 2023 3:58 pm
Call AA for seats on AA codeshares on JL, (and possibly for JL prime seats)
Originally Posted by ernestnywang
(Post 35558719)
For AA*/JL flights, you have to call AA to get seat assignment. JL has a strict policy (unlike most other airlines I know of) to not help reserve seat when marketing carrier is not JL.
Thanks very much for this ernestnywang.
I tried calling JL and they assisted me to get seat assignments (perhaps because I am Oneworld Sapphire) but gave Mrs Jrobin seats that were across the plane from me in one AA codeshare, and could not assign a seat in another AA codeshare. On the JL flight they also had difficulty assigning a seat for her. I suspect it was because she has no status.
Later JL called me (while I was on the phone with AA) and said I should talk with AA about seats on codeshare flights and not JL.
AA were able to assign seats on the AA codeshares on JL and even on JL41 on which the JL agent was unable to assign a seat for Mrs Jrobin.
andreiz
Sep 7, 2023 8:20 pm
Originally Posted by steveholt
(Post 35556501)
QF's surcharges on LAX-SYD are significantly higher than AA when booked as part of a DONE4. I know what the fuel surcharges say, but the difference between booking AA and QF on this routing is about $1200 US cheaper on the AA side.
I just got off the phone with the RTW desk and that may explain the 2,500USD taxes/fees/surcharges on top of 5,415USD base fare.
My current itinerary on hold is OSL-xLHR-JFK-SEA-xLAX-SYD-HND-xDOH-OSL. This was meant as a placeholder to fulfill 4 continent requirements until I figure out the final routing. Would doing LAX-NRT-SYD-HND save me taxes/fees? Any other options I can try to minimize taxes until I'm ready to do the final routing?
steveholt
Sep 8, 2023 11:48 am
Originally Posted by andreiz
(Post 35562412)
I just got off the phone with the RTW desk and that may explain the 2,500USD taxes/fees/surcharges on top of 5,415USD base fare.
My current itinerary on hold is OSL-xLHR-JFK-SEA-xLAX-SYD-HND-xDOH-OSL. This was meant as a placeholder to fulfill 4 continent requirements until I figure out the final routing. Would doing LAX-NRT-SYD-HND save me taxes/fees? Any other options I can try to minimize taxes until I'm ready to do the final routing?
Your taxes will reduce significantly if you can find availability on the LAX-SYD AA flight.
andreiz
Sep 8, 2023 5:03 pm
Originally Posted by steveholt
(Post 35563925)
Your taxes will reduce significantly if you can find availability on the LAX-SYD AA flight.
I will try. Does QF charge onerous fees on Asia-SP D fares too? Like SYD-NRT?
andreiz
Sep 8, 2023 5:05 pm
Originally Posted by steveholt
(Post 35563925)
Your taxes will reduce significantly if you can find availability on the LAX-SYD AA flight.
Alternatively, is there a way to determine what fees/taxes will be charged per segment without sending the whole itinerary to the rate desk?
steveholt
Sep 8, 2023 5:19 pm
Originally Posted by andreiz
(Post 35564583)
Alternatively, is there a way to determine what fees/taxes will be charged per segment without sending the whole itinerary to the rate desk?
ernestnywang has been very gracious in helping users identify costs. One way to estimate would be to use the oneworld RTW explorer tool and make a change to one segment to identify the relative cost difference.
ernestnywang
Sep 8, 2023 6:58 pm
Originally Posted by andreiz
(Post 35562412)
I just got off the phone with the RTW desk and that may explain the 2,500USD taxes/fees/surcharges on top of 5,415USD base fare.
My current itinerary on hold is OSL-xLHR-JFK-SEA-xLAX-SYD-HND-xDOH-OSL. This was meant as a placeholder to fulfill 4 continent requirements until I figure out the final routing. Would doing LAX-NRT-SYD-HND save me taxes/fees? Any other options I can try to minimize taxes until I'm ready to do the final routing?
I don't know your exact carriers of choices. Given your LAX-SYD seems to be booked on QF, I assume your LHR-JFK is on AA. This is the closest quote I found that match your numbers.
PSGR TYPE ADT
FARE BASIS BOOK CODE FARE TAX/FEES/CHGS TOTAL
01 DGLOB34 D/D/D/D/* USD 5352.00 2542.95 7894.95 ADT
02 DONE4 D/D/D/D/* USD 5408.00 2543.41 7951.41 ADT
03 DONE5 D/D/D/D/* USD 6176.00 2550.30 8726.30 ADT
04 DONE6 D/D/D/D/* USD 6967.00 2657.35 9624.35 ADT
*01-04*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY
*01-04*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED
*01-04*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED
*01-04*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY
ATTN*SEE OTHER FARES - USE XM QUALIFIER, E.G. WQCTY/ACRCTY-XM
ATTN*SEE ALL FARES - USE AL QUALIFIER, E.G. WQCTY/ACRCTY-AL
** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES **
** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE
CONFIRMED **
.
WQ2«
1 AAOPEND 01OCT 7 OSLLHR DS1
2 AAOPEND LHRJFK DS1
3 AAOPEND JFKSEA DS1
4 AAOPEND SEALAX DS1
5 QFOPEND LAXSYD DS1
6 JLOPEND SYDHND DS1
7 QROPEND HNDDOH DS1
8 QROPEND DOHOSL DS1
PSGR TYPE ADT - 02
CXR RES DATE FARE BASIS NVB NVA BG
OSL
XLON AA D 01OCT DONE4 01OCT 01OCT 02P
NYC AA D OPEN DONE4 02OCT 02OCT 02P
SEA AA D OPEN DONE4 03OCT 03OCT 02P
XLAX AA D OPEN DONE4 04OCT 04OCT 02P
SYD QF D OPEN DONE4 05OCT 05OCT 02P
TYO JL D OPEN DONE4 06OCT 06OCT 02P
XDOH QR D OPEN DONE4 07OCT 07OCT 02P
OSL QR D OPEN DONE4 08OCT 08OCT 02P
FARE NOK 57959 EQUIV USD 5408.00
TAX USD 29.90G2 USD 10.90ZN USD 2502.61XT
TOTAL USD 7951.41 ¥
MD«
ADT-01 DONE4 ¥
OSL AA X/LON AA NYC AA SEA AA X/LAX QF SYD JL TYO QR X/DOH QR
OSL5675.60NUC5675.60END ROE10.211949 ZPJFKSEA
XT USD52.80UB USD48.46US USD9.60ZP USD42.20US USD6.52YC
XT USD7.00XY USD3.83XA USD11.20AY USD38.30AU USD40.00WY
XT USD20.00SW USD0.70OI USD16.50QA USD0.50PZ USD16.50G4
XT USD294.50YR USD1871.00YQ USD6.80TK USD2.70R9
XT USD13.50XFJFK4.5SEA4.5LAX4.5
ENDOS*SEG1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8*VALID ON ONEWORLD ONLY/NONREF
TKT/TL11SEP23/2359
RATE USED 1NOK-0.09331275USD
ATTN*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY SEG 1-8
ATTN*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED SEG 1-8
ATTN*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED SEG 1
ATTN*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY SEG 1-8
ATTN*VALIDATING CARRIER SPECIFIED - AA
** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES **
** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE
CONFIRMED **
.
WQ¥DF2«
WQ¥DF2
PSGR TYPE ADT
FARE NOK 57959 EQUIV USD 5408.00
TAX USD 29.90G2 USD 10.90ZN USD 2502.61XT
TOTAL USD 7951.41
OSL AA X/LON AA NYC AA SEA AA X/LAX QF SYD JL TYO QR X/DOH QR OS
L5675.60NUC5675.60END ROE10.211949 ZPJFKSEA
XT USD52.80UB USD48.46US USD9.60ZP USD42.20US USD6.52YC
XT USD7.00XY USD3.83XA USD11.20AY USD38.30AU USD40.00WY
XT USD20.00SW USD0.70OI USD16.50QA USD0.50PZ USD16.50G4
XT USD294.50YR USD1871.00YQ USD6.80TK USD2.70R9 USD13.50XFJFK4.5
SEA4.5LAX4.5
RATE USED 1NOK-0.09331275USD
/////////////// TRAFFIC DOCUMENT ISSUED IN DFW ///////////////
PU -FARE BASIS-CUR NUC AMT ELEMENT DESCRIPTION ----------- GI
01 DONE4 NOK 5675.60 OSL-OSL AA /RT RTG RW
5675.60 - TOTAL NUC
-TAX AMT/USD/-- CUR CODES DESCRIPTION-----TAX TYPE/SEQUENCE--
294.50 /YRI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC
250.00:USD 250.00 *LHR* *AA* 9592500
12.50:USD 12.50 *LAX* *QF* 3595000
16.00:USD 16.00 *HND* *QR* 10007
16.00:USD 16.00 *HND* *QR* 10007
1867.40 /YQF SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED FUEL 1228.40:EUR 1145.00 *LAX* *QF* 2994925 ¥
4.80:USD 4.80 *JFK* 001 138750 ¥
4.80:USD 4.80 *SEA* 001 138750
13.50 US/XF PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE
4.50:USD 4.50 *JFK*
4.50:USD 4.50 *SEA*
4.50:USD 4.50 *LAX*
-IATA RATES OF EXCHANGE USED IN FARE CALCULATION --------------
10.2119490 NOK-ROE EFF 01SEP23*INDEF
-BSR USED IN FARE CALCULATION ---------------------------------
1NOK:0.09331275USD
-BSR USED IN TAX CALCULATION ----------------------------------
1EUR:1.07283323USD 1AUD:0.63830607USD
1GBP:1.25378973USD 1JPY:0.00677938USD
1NOK:0.09331275USD 1QAR:0.27461211USD
-PRICING UNIT TRIP TYPE ---------------------------------------
PU 01 - NORMAL RW SINGLE FARE COMPONENT
.
The QF 1145.00EUR YQ + 12.50USD YR is very high and can double if you put SYD-HND on QF as well, so yes, you can avoid it if you do LAX-NRT-SYD-HND and do not use QF at all. Use JL for NRT-SYD-HND. In this case, LAX-NRT is cheaper on AA, and if you can use JL for HND-DOH it would be even better. JL's YQ is higher for SYD-HND (219USD + [3.6USD per sector]) alone but lower when SYD-HND-DOH (67EUR + [3.6USD per sector]) is put together. But as you can see later, as long as you can use AA code for LAX-SYD, that would save you more.
PSGR TYPE ADT
FARE BASIS BOOK CODE FARE TAX/FEES/CHGS TOTAL
01 DGLOB34 D/D/D/D/* USD 5352.00 1372.03 6724.03 ADT
02 DONE4 D/D/D/D/* USD 5408.00 1372.56 6780.56 ADT
03 DONE5 D/D/D/D/* USD 6176.00 1378.70 7554.70 ADT
04 DONE6 D/D/D/D/* USD 6967.00 1485.23 8452.23 ADT
*01-04*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY
*01-04*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED
*01-04*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED
*01-04*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY
ATTN*SEE OTHER FARES - USE XM QUALIFIER, E.G. WQCTY/ACRCTY-XM
ATTN*SEE ALL FARES - USE AL QUALIFIER, E.G. WQCTY/ACRCTY-AL
** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES **
** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE
CONFIRMED **
.
WQ2«
1 AAOPEND 01OCT 7 OSLLHR DS1
2 AAOPEND LHRJFK DS1
3 AAOPEND JFKSEA DS1
4 AAOPEND SEALAX DS1
5 AAOPEND LAXNRT DS1
6 JLOPEND NRTSYD DS1
7 JLOPEND SYDHND DS1
8 JLOPEND HNDDOH DS1
9 QROPEND DOHOSL DS1
PSGR TYPE ADT - 02
CXR RES DATE FARE BASIS NVB NVA BG
OSL
XLON AA D 01OCT DONE4 01OCT 01OCT 02P
NYC AA D OPEN DONE4 02OCT 02OCT 02P
SEA AA D OPEN DONE4 03OCT 03OCT 02P
XLAX AA D OPEN DONE4 04OCT 04OCT 02P
XTYO AA D OPEN DONE4 05OCT 05OCT 02P
SYD JL D OPEN DONE4 06OCT 06OCT 02P
TYO JL D OPEN DONE4 07OCT 07OCT 02P
XDOH JL D OPEN DONE4 08OCT 08OCT 02P
OSL QR D OPEN DONE4 09OCT 09OCT 02P
FARE NOK 57959 EQUIV USD 5408.00 ¥
MD«
TAX USD 29.90G2 USD 10.90ZN USD 1331.76XT ¥
TOTAL USD 6780.56
ADT-01 DONE4
OSL AA X/LON AA NYC AA SEA AA X/LAX AA X/TYO JL SYD JL TYO JL
X/DOH QR OSL5675.60NUC5675.60END ROE10.211949 ZPJFKSEA
XT USD52.80UB USD44.11US USD9.60ZP USD42.20US USD6.52YC
XT USD7.00XY USD3.83XA USD11.20AY USD28.30SW USD3.70OI
XT USD38.30AU USD40.00WY USD16.50QA USD0.50PZ USD16.50G4
XT USD266.00YR USD721.70YQ USD2.70R9 USD6.80TK
XT USD13.50XFJFK4.5SEA4.5LAX4.5
ENDOS*SEG1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9*VALID ON ONEWORLD ONLY/NONREF
TKT/TL11SEP23/2359
RATE USED 1NOK-0.09331275USD
ATTN*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY SEG 1-9
ATTN*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED SEG 1-9
ATTN*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED SEG 1
ATTN*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY SEG 1-9
ATTN*VALIDATING CARRIER - AA
** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES **
** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE
CONFIRMED **
.
WQ¥DF2«
WQ¥DF2
PSGR TYPE ADT
FARE NOK 57959 EQUIV USD 5408.00
TAX USD 29.90G2 USD 10.90ZN USD 1331.76XT
TOTAL USD 6780.56
OSL AA X/LON AA NYC AA SEA AA X/LAX AA X/TYO JL SYD JL TYO JL X/
DOH QR OSL5675.60NUC5675.60END ROE10.211949 ZPJFKSEA
XT USD52.80UB USD44.11US USD9.60ZP USD42.20US USD6.52YC
XT USD7.00XY USD3.83XA USD11.20AY USD28.30SW USD3.70OI
XT USD38.30AU USD40.00WY USD16.50QA USD0.50PZ USD16.50G4
XT USD266.00YR USD721.70YQ USD2.70R9 USD6.80TK USD13.50XFJFK4.5S
EA4.5LAX4.5
RATE USED 1NOK-0.09331275USD
/////////////// TRAFFIC DOCUMENT ISSUED IN DFW ///////////////
PU -FARE BASIS-CUR NUC AMT ELEMENT DESCRIPTION ----------- GI
01 DONE4 NOK 5675.60 OSL-OSL AA /RT RTG RW
5675.60 - TOTAL NUC
-TAX AMT/USD/-- CUR CODES DESCRIPTION-----TAX TYPE/SEQUENCE--
266.00 /YRI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC
250.00:USD 250.00 *LHR* *AA* 9592500
16.00:USD 16.00 *DOH* *QR* 40012
710.90 /YQF SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED FUEL 219.00:USD 219.00 *NRT* *JL* 1057374 71.90:EUR 67.00 *SYD* *JL* 999900
420.00:USD 420.00 *DOH* *QR* 888 ¥
PSGR TYPE ADT
FARE BASIS BOOK CODE FARE TAX/FEES/CHGS TOTAL
01 DGLOB34 D/D/D/D/* USD 5352.00 1141.85 6493.85 ADT
02 DONE4 D/D/D/D/* USD 5408.00 1142.31 6550.31 ADT
03 DONE5 D/D/D/D/* USD 6176.00 1149.20 7325.20 ADT
04 DONE6 D/D/D/D/* USD 6967.00 1256.25 8223.25 ADT
*01-04*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY
*01-04*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED
*01-04*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED
*01-04*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY
ATTN*SEE OTHER FARES - USE XM QUALIFIER, E.G. WQCTY/ACRCTY-XM
ATTN*SEE ALL FARES - USE AL QUALIFIER, E.G. WQCTY/ACRCTY-AL
** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES **
** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE
CONFIRMED **
.
WQ2«
1 AAOPEND 01OCT 7 OSLLHR DS1
2 AAOPEND LHRJFK DS1
3 AAOPEND JFKSEA DS1
4 AAOPEND SEALAX DS1
5 AAOPEND LAXSYD DS1
6 JLOPEND SYDHND DS1
7 JLOPEND HNDDOH DS1
8 QROPEND DOHOSL DS1
PSGR TYPE ADT - 02
CXR RES DATE FARE BASIS NVB NVA BG
OSL
XLON AA D 01OCT DONE4 01OCT 01OCT 02P
NYC AA D OPEN DONE4 02OCT 02OCT 02P
SEA AA D OPEN DONE4 03OCT 03OCT 02P
XLAX AA D OPEN DONE4 04OCT 04OCT 02P
SYD AA D OPEN DONE4 05OCT 05OCT 02P
TYO JL D OPEN DONE4 06OCT 06OCT 02P
XDOH JL D OPEN DONE4 07OCT 07OCT 02P
OSL QR D OPEN DONE4 08OCT 08OCT 02P
FARE NOK 57959 EQUIV USD 5408.00
TAX USD 29.90G2 USD 10.90ZN USD 1101.51XT
TOTAL USD 6550.31 ¥
MD«
ADT-01 DONE4 ¥
OSL AA X/LON AA NYC AA SEA AA X/LAX AA SYD JL TYO JL X/DOH QR
OSL5675.60NUC5675.60END ROE10.211949 ZPJFKSEA
XT USD52.80UB USD48.46US USD9.60ZP USD42.20US USD6.52YC
XT USD7.00XY USD3.83XA USD11.20AY USD38.30AU USD40.00WY
XT USD20.00SW USD16.50QA USD0.50PZ USD16.50G4 USD266.00YR
XT USD499.10YQ USD6.80TK USD2.70R9 USD13.50XFJFK4.5SEA4.5LAX4.5
ENDOS*SEG1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8*VALID ON ONEWORLD ONLY/NONREF
TKT/TL11SEP23/2359
RATE USED 1NOK-0.09331275USD
ATTN*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY SEG 1-8
ATTN*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED SEG 1-8
ATTN*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED SEG 1
ATTN*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY SEG 1-8
ATTN*VALIDATING CARRIER SPECIFIED - AA
** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES **
** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE
CONFIRMED **
.
WQ¥DF2«
WQ¥DF2
PSGR TYPE ADT
FARE NOK 57959 EQUIV USD 5408.00
TAX USD 29.90G2 USD 10.90ZN USD 1101.51XT
TOTAL USD 6550.31
OSL AA X/LON AA NYC AA SEA AA X/LAX AA SYD JL TYO JL X/DOH QR OS
L5675.60NUC5675.60END ROE10.211949 ZPJFKSEA
XT USD52.80UB USD48.46US USD9.60ZP USD42.20US USD6.52YC
XT USD7.00XY USD3.83XA USD11.20AY USD38.30AU USD40.00WY
XT USD20.00SW USD16.50QA USD0.50PZ USD16.50G4 USD266.00YR
XT USD499.10YQ USD6.80TK USD2.70R9 USD13.50XFJFK4.5SEA4.5LAX4.5
RATE USED 1NOK-0.09331275USD
/////////////// TRAFFIC DOCUMENT ISSUED IN DFW ///////////////
PU -FARE BASIS-CUR NUC AMT ELEMENT DESCRIPTION ----------- GI
01 DONE4 NOK 5675.60 OSL-OSL AA /RT RTG RW
5675.60 - TOTAL NUC
-TAX AMT/USD/-- CUR CODES DESCRIPTION-----TAX TYPE/SEQUENCE--
266.00 /YRI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC
250.00:USD 250.00 *LHR* *AA* 9592500
16.00:USD 16.00 *DOH* *QR* 40012
491.90 /YQF SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED FUEL 71.90:EUR 67.00 *SYD* *JL* 999900
420.00:USD 420.00 *DOH* *QR* 888
7.20 /YQI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC ¥
4.50:USD 4.50 *SEA* ¥
4.50:USD 4.50 *LAX*
-IATA RATES OF EXCHANGE USED IN FARE CALCULATION --------------
10.2119490 NOK-ROE EFF 01SEP23*INDEF
-BSR USED IN FARE CALCULATION ---------------------------------
1NOK:0.09331275USD
-BSR USED IN TAX CALCULATION ----------------------------------
1EUR:1.07283323USD 1AUD:0.63830607USD
1GBP:1.25378973USD 1JPY:0.00677938USD
1NOK:0.09331275USD 1QAR:0.27461211USD
-PRICING UNIT TRIP TYPE ---------------------------------------
PU 01 - NORMAL RW SINGLE FARE COMPONENT
.
I have previously shared that in some cases using AS code for TPAC can further reduce YR/YQ, but in this case it makes no difference.
The 420USD YQ from QR is unavoidable as long as you have a QR sector (OSL-DOH). Given that and having to use some AA sectors at least, I think the last itineray is quite well already in terms of saving YR/YQ.
Originally Posted by andreiz
(Post 35564580)
I will try. Does QF charge onerous fees on Asia-SP D fares too? Like SYD-NRT?
Yes, another 1145.00EUR YQ + 12.50USD YR is applicable.
Originally Posted by steveholt
(Post 35564595)
ernestnywang has been very gracious in helping users identify costs.
Thank you!
andreiz
Sep 9, 2023 11:54 am
Originally Posted by ernestnywang
(Post 35564731)
I don't know your exact carriers of choices. Given your LAX-SYD seems to be booked on QF, I assume your LHR-JFK is on AA. This is the closest quote I found that match your numbers.
Thank you for such a detailed breakdown. I switched LAX-SYD to AA flight yesterday and booked the fare since I need to fly the first 2 segments soon. Here is the itinerary with carriers slotted in:
The taxes came out to about 1,220USD. I am guessing, based on the above, majority of that is from the BA and QR charges?
Yes, and remember not to use QF code (use JL code instead) for SYD-HND, and also use JL code for HND-DOH.
Do you mean to use JL codeshare or actual JL flights?
ernestnywang
Sep 9, 2023 7:06 pm
Originally Posted by andreiz
(Post 35566217)
Thank you for such a detailed breakdown. I switched LAX-SYD to AA flight yesterday and booked the fare since I need to fly the first 2 segments soon. Here is the itinerary with carriers slotted in:
PSGR TYPE ADT
FARE BASIS BOOK CODE FARE TAX/FEES/CHGS TOTAL
01 DGLOB34 D/D/D/D/* USD 5368.00 1320.33 6688.33 ADT
02 DONE4 D/D/D/D/* USD 5424.00 1320.85 6744.85 ADT
03 DONE5 D/D/D/D/* USD 6192.00 1327.75 7519.75 ADT
04 DONE6 D/D/D/D/* USD 6983.00 1434.88 8417.88 ADT
*01-04*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY
*01-04*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED
*01-04*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED
*01-04*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY
*01-04*PAYMENT/TKT RESTRICTIONS APPLY
ATTN*SEE OTHER FARES - USE XM QUALIFIER, E.G. WQCTY/ACRCTY-XM
ATTN*SEE ALL FARES - USE AL QUALIFIER, E.G. WQCTY/ACRCTY-AL
** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES **
** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE
CONFIRMED **
.
WQ2«
1 BAOPEND 15SEP 5 OSLLHR DS1
2 BAOPEND LHRJFK DS1
3 ASOPEND JFKSEA DS1
4 ASOPEND SEALAX DS1
5 AAOPEND LAXSYD DS1
6 JLOPEND SYDHND DS1
7 QROPEND HNDDOH DS1
8 QROPEND DOHOSL DS1
PSGR TYPE ADT - 02
CXR RES DATE FARE BASIS NVB NVA BG
OSL
XLON BA D 15SEP DONE4 15SEP 15SEP 02P
NYC BA D OPEN DONE4 16SEP 16SEP 02P
SEA AS D OPEN DONE4 17SEP 17SEP 02P
XLAX AS D OPEN DONE4 18SEP 18SEP 02P
SYD AA D OPEN DONE4 19SEP 19SEP 02P
TYO JL D OPEN DONE4 20SEP 20SEP 02P
XDOH QR D OPEN DONE4 21SEP 21SEP 02P
OSL QR D OPEN DONE4 22SEP 22SEP 02P
FARE NOK 58127 EQUIV USD 5424.00
TAX USD 29.90G2 USD 10.90ZN USD 1280.05XT
TOTAL USD 6744.85 ¥
MD«
ADT-01 DONE4 ¥
OSL BA X/LON BA NYC AS SEA AS X/LAX AA SYD JL TYO QR X/DOH QR
OSL Q OSLOSL16.46 5675.60NUC5692.06END ROE10.211949 ZPJFKSEA
XT USD52.80UB USD48.60US USD9.60ZP USD42.20US USD6.52YC
XT USD7.00XY USD3.83XA USD11.20AY USD38.30AU USD40.00WY
XT USD20.00SW USD0.70OI USD16.50QA USD0.50PZ USD16.50G4
XT USD32.00YR USD910.80YQ USD6.80TK USD2.70R9
XT USD13.50XFJFK4.5SEA4.5LAX4.5
ENDOS*SEG1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8*VALID ON ONEWORLD ONLY/NONREF
TKT/TL09SEP23/0001
RATE USED 1NOK-0.09331275USD
ATTN*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY SEG 1-8
ATTN*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED SEG 1-8
ATTN*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED SEG 1
ATTN*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY SEG 1-8
ATTN*PAYMENT/TKT RESTRICTIONS APPLY SEG 1-8
ATTN*VALIDATING CARRIER SPECIFIED - AA
** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES **
** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE
CONFIRMED **
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WQ¥DF2«
WQ¥DF2
PSGR TYPE ADT
FARE NOK 58127 EQUIV USD 5424.00
TAX USD 29.90G2 USD 10.90ZN USD 1280.05XT
TOTAL USD 6744.85
OSL BA X/LON BA NYC AS SEA AS X/LAX AA SYD JL TYO QR X/DOH QR OS
L Q OSLOSL16.46 5675.60NUC5692.06END ROE10.211949 ZPJFKSEA
XT USD52.80UB USD48.60US USD9.60ZP USD42.20US USD6.52YC
XT USD7.00XY USD3.83XA USD11.20AY USD38.30AU USD40.00WY
XT USD20.00SW USD0.70OI USD16.50QA USD0.50PZ USD16.50G4
XT USD32.00YR USD910.80YQ USD6.80TK USD2.70R9 USD13.50XFJFK4.5SE
A4.5LAX4.5
RATE USED 1NOK-0.09331275USD
/////////////// TRAFFIC DOCUMENT ISSUED IN DFW ///////////////
PU -FARE BASIS-CUR NUC AMT ELEMENT DESCRIPTION ----------- GI
EUR 16.46 OSL-OSL MISCELLANEOUS SURCHARGE
01 DONE4 NOK 5675.60 OSL-OSL BA /RT RTG RW
5692.06 - TOTAL NUC
-TAX AMT/USD/-- CUR CODES DESCRIPTION-----TAX TYPE/SEQUENCE--
271.80 /YQI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC
268.20:EUR 250.00 *OSL* *BA* 2188840
3.60:USD 3.60 *SYD* *JL* 9040090
639.00 /YQF SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED FUEL
219.00:USD 219.00 *SYD* *JL* 1057374
420.00:USD 420.00 *HND* *QR* 888 ¥
4.80:USD 4.80 *SEA* 001 138750 ¥
13.50 US/XF PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE
4.50:USD 4.50 *JFK*
4.50:USD 4.50 *SEA*
4.50:USD 4.50 *LAX*
-IATA RATES OF EXCHANGE USED IN FARE CALCULATION --------------
10.2119490 NOK-ROE EFF 01SEP23*INDEF
-BSR USED IN FARE CALCULATION ---------------------------------
1NOK:0.09331275USD
-BSR USED IN TAX CALCULATION ----------------------------------
1EUR:1.07283323USD 1AUD:0.63830607USD
1GBP:1.25378973USD 1JPY:0.00677938USD
1NOK:0.09331275USD 1QAR:0.27461211USD
-PRICING UNIT TRIP TYPE ---------------------------------------
PU 01 - SPECIAL RW SINGLE FARE COMPONENT
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Out of which:
BA - 250EUR=268.2USD
JL - 3.6+219=222.6USD
QR - 420+16+16=452USD
There's also a 16.46EUR Miscellaneous Surcharge counted as part of fare, not part of taxes. I believe that is AA's fuel surcharge.
Originally Posted by andreiz
(Post 35566217)
Do you mean to use JL codeshare or actual JL flights?
As long as marketing carrier is JL, JL's YQ/YR rate will be used irrespective of operating carrier.
andreiz
Sep 11, 2023 9:06 am
In my OSL-xLHR-JFK-... itinerary the first 2 flights were booked as AA codeshare (instead of BA prime). Is it required that the first flight and the first overwater flight be codeshares of the booking airline?