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Gardyloo
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I’m expecting the AA and BA segments I have on mine (booked via BA) to be revenue based earning in BAEC.

I assume they will divide the base fare by the total mileage and assign a cost per mile to each of those legs, then apply my status multiplier?

I’ll let you all know once I’ve flown it after November.

That's how it works in AAdvantage when you get tagged with a revenue segment. The earnings are tiny compared to what it would be on a distance base. Look forward to hearing back your experience with BAEC, I don't know that I've seen any data points with RTWs since it went to revenue base. At least with BA your tier points are still based on distance, with AA RDMs and status miles are now the same for the most part, so we're losing a significant amount of status miles as well on these revenue base segments.

Due to some timewise and health considerations I am considering a circle Pacific (Dcir22/26) exKUL
Somewhat easier to get to than Japan and the DCIR22 about the same price as a DONE3 from Japan.
And allows a return to KUL via Australia.

With the appropriate AA coded flights northern transPacific and QF southern route will AA RTW ticket?
Can't convince Mrs WF that a RTW is not too much wandering

Fred

No need to get snarky. There's no bar being set here. I much prefer the AA hard product to that of JL when flying TPAC. I can deal with the bad food by taking my own, and I don't need much from cabin crew. I'm perfectly happy to get up and fetch my own Coke. Should that be the "bar" or standard for international J? Of course not. But I'll put up with a fair amount in order to avoid the coffin-like J seats on JL.

Please note that this is only my own personal calculus for selecting a carrier for TPAC, not the new standard for international J.

Thanks for the recommendation, but try not to lose sight of the fact that everyone has different priorities, wants, and needs when taking advantage of these fares. Mine are different from yours. That, of course, doesn't make mine any more or less valid than yours, but my priorities are based on what I value. There's no global correct answer.

Absolutely agree with you about the current JL J seat. I'd take AA's seats any day over the JL Sky Suite that's on most if not all TPACs. It's way too narrow and there's nowhere to put your stuff / devices beside you, just the shelf under the TV. Though I actually don't hate the Sky Suite II on the 767s and the III on the regional 789s that gets a bad rap for lack of adjustability. I'd much rather have those as the long haul seat than the 77W Sky Suite. I haven't yet seen the new A350-1000 seat, will fly it the first time in August, but looks nice. This is exactly the same argument I'd make for AA vs. BA on TATL as well, their old seat is god awful and suffers the same coffin effect as the JL Sky Suite, but at least JL has aisle access without disturbing the sleeping person in the next seat. I think BA only has 4 seats on those planes that don't require stepping over someone's footrest (or being stepped over), who ever thought that was a good design?

Food, though I don't bring my own for international I've never had anything on AA I'd consider inedible and sometimes it's been quite decent. Domestic is another story and as often often as not it's pretty bad, but I can tolerate it for a relatively short flight. Typically I tend to connect in airports with AA FL's so can get some decent food there ahead of time, I'd rather do that than pay a 3-4x multiplier for airport restaurant food vs. 'normal' prices outside, but if you don't have a FL to access then there's definitely a solid use case for bringing your own despite airport markup.

I think AA is a solid value in a RTW. Sure it's not to the standards of QR, CX, even JL aside from the seats but good value nonetheless. And as long as you can code it with QF, JL, QR, or AY then is still good for AAdvantage credit as well. (For that matter coding it as ANYTHING except AA, BA, and IB). I don't see people saying QF segments are a waste but in my experience their food is quite similar to AA and their seat is no better / worse, their crew is certainly no better, I've experienced very friendly QF crew but they're often just as lazy and they won't bring your first drink until meal service starts, which greatly annoys me.

As a data point, I needed to cancel my recently-booked QF ex-CAI RTW before departure for family reasons.

My first call directed me to someone who said they would look into the rules and came back and forth on and off of hold for 15 minutes. She said after talking to her team, she could cancel it for 5% of the base fare. Great! She said it might take 28 days to process the refund, which I wasn't thrilled by, but I could deal with that later. When she started the cancellation process, she said that she actually couldn't cancel it because it was priced in EGP and that I would need to contact Oneworld to cancel the ticket. I pointed out that QF had sold me a QF ticket, that they work with other currencies all the time, and that there was no Oneworld desk for me to call. She put me on hold again and then hung up.

My second call was to the same number. I got someone who sounded more competent, spent 15 minutes looking into it, said that I could cancel without penalty since one of my flights were cancelled.and then sent me to another department. This department processed the refund within five minutes.

I received a full refund (minus some currency changes amounting to about $50 US) within 48 hours.

nice, i would thought 5% is the minimal penalty, on one of the flight got cancelled, does the agent considered it's an early segment or towards the end?

sharing my experience on the topic, I for one, started my first RTW ex-CAI without considering the FFP.

But, as I lurk along the forum, and learning through the post, naturally, I want to try to maximize the FFP status.
For my own ticket, I will have to mix between MH and QR, because i want to maintain my Enrich Platinum via MH, then the balance to go with QR.
While for my wife's ticket, as a newbie, the route I book was un-optimized, but even with that, using the Qpoints calculator, my wife could get close to 450 points, if I credit all her flights to QR. Thus, I am now trying to tweak and see if can get her to 600 Qpoints.

If I understand correctly from the past 2 days discussion,
1. Say, I am taking a MH flight from KUL - NRT
2. The same flight is marketed by QR.
3. Using the Qpoints calculator,
- If take MH and credit to QRPC - I got 30 Qpoints
- If I take MH but use codeshare by QR - then I got 81 Qpoints.
Am is my understanding correct?

I found out through luck that when I was messing with my seat selection at QR page, I realize I can select my seat for KUL - NRT in the same page, which leads me to believe there is codeshare with QR in this flight.
I further investigate in QR page, by searching the flight,
- when I search KUL - NRT, it says no such flight
- when I search DOH - NRT, then the MH flight with QR code shown up as connection.

My question is, is there a reliable way to find what's the codeshare available for other flights?

Expert Flyer is great for for searching all things on air travel. It has been discussed at length many times on Flyer talk. Great tool for planning RTW trips. Codeshares , availibility, married segments , etc. for $99 a year.

This thread is Oneworld booking and pricing experiences
Questions about the Qatar FFP are best asked in the QR forum.
To get the benefits of higher earning on the codeshares would need to be ticketed on that codeshare.
If you do not want to pay for expertflyer the airport and flight info web sites often list native and codeshare flights. But more work to determine.
https://airports.malaysiaairports.co...ation/arrivals
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airports/kul
https://www.flightstats.com/v2/fligh...r/arrivals/KUL

folks could I please beg - this is a “booking and pricing” thread - not “earning.” It’s becoming so cluttered I might have to unsubscribe to avoid getting spammed with unrelated spam.

A Mod has already weighed in with his opinion and recommendation. If you think that any posts here are sufficiently off-topic that they should be moderated, use the RBP button to bring it/them to Mod's attention.

I've already recently suggested a dedicated thread within this forum but it didn't seem to be very popular. The general Choosing a OW FFP thread isn't the best place for discussing RTW earnings. Neither are the individual FFP forums since people are often weighing options between programs. This is the correct forum for such a thread, but with it not existing yet it's natural that people revert here or one of the other RTW titled threads since earnings on these may be quite RTW specific (various codeshares you'd normally not be able to use on standard tickets, revenue vs. distance in AA, BA, IB, etc.).

But one could certainly argue that kayzng's question is booking related since the codeshare allowing them to maximize status points isn't straightforward to see / book without knowing the tricks we here generally do. I'd also fathom that very few people outside of flyertalk know those MH flights DOH-KUL are quite unique and contracted by QR. MH can only sell a handful of seats on them under their code, most seats are open for QR code only (even heavily restricting seat selection on the flight if you have the MH code), that's definitely related to booking.

Yes, with QR you get a lot more Q Points for their own codes vs. most partners. As others suggested, ExpertFlyer is the tool you need to make it as simple as possible, but it might not show you all relevant codeshares without playing around a bit (forcing searches for certain carriers for example. One wouldn't necessary think there's a JL code on JFK-GRU / GIG and DFW-GRU but there is, there are also several QR codes to Caribbean islands from MIA and maybe JFK that aren't necessarily intuitive, you'll find loads of stuff like that in ExpertFlyer that can be very useful for your planning and booking experience)