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Dr. HFH May 2, 2024 8:58 am


Originally Posted by SAT Lawyer (Post 36204647)
Can you credit part of a oneworld RTW to one airline’s frequent flyer program and part of it to a different airline’s frequent flyer program, or is that not possible?


Originally Posted by ironmanjt (Post 36204726)
Absolutely possible - just ensure when you check in for each flight you have them change your FF number and then verify it shows correctly on your BP. Obviously you only get status benefits from the program you're using on that flight.

I'm going to give it a definite maybe. In theory, yes, you should be able to change your frequent flyer number for each flight. Usually you can do it either at the gate or in the elite lounge (if you have status to gain admission). However, there are reports on FT of trying to do it, and the agent says that the number was changed as requested, but then getting NO credit for a flight because each program claims that the flight was already credited to another program, regardless of what the boarding pass says.

ironmanjt May 2, 2024 9:05 am


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 36204810)
I'm going to give it a definite maybe. In theory, yes, you should be able to change your frequent flyer number for each flight. Usually you can do it either at the gate or in the elite lounge (if you have status to gain admission). However, there are reports on FT of trying to do it, and the agent says that the number was changed as requested, but then getting NO credit for a flight because each program claims that the flight was already credited to another program, regardless of what the boarding pass says.

I've been able to do it - so it's definitely possible - but fully endorse that it may take several agents and confusion. I agree that I definitely wouldn't count on it being possible without a lot of hassle.

izzik May 2, 2024 9:19 am


Originally Posted by SAT Lawyer (Post 36204647)
Can you credit part of a oneworld RTW to one airline’s frequent flyer program and part of it to a different airline’s frequent flyer program, or is that not possible?

You can also just skip adding the FF#, then request credit for individual flights with each program after travel is completed.
Obviously, the downside is that if there are benefits tied to having the program on the ticket, you may not be able to use those (eg, seat assignments). YMMV

Maple Red May 3, 2024 9:34 am


Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 36175150)
Not to mention those are base fares only any ex-CAI attractes huge YQ charges. (So does ex-OSL).

At the moment ex-OSL, ex-Japan, and to a much lesser extent ex-South Africa are the key departure points. ex-South Africa isn't cheap per se but should allow 4 stopovers in each of the primary continents, so could still b e attractive.

Is there a free source available which shows base fare as a function of departure point for these round the world tickets offered by One World and Star Alliance? I did a brief search, but didn't find anything recent. Obviously a person could collect the data by brute force through the online booking tools; but I'm hoping the data is already freely available.

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

izzik May 3, 2024 10:19 am


Originally Posted by Maple Red (Post 36207474)
Is there a free source available which shows base fare as a function of departure point for these round the world tickets offered by One World and Star Alliance? I did a brief search, but didn't find anything recent. Obviously a person could collect the data by brute force through the online booking tools; but I'm hoping the data is already freely available.

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

Base fares are not freely available in a convenient, searchable format; that's why services like Expertflyer are in business.

LilZeppelin May 3, 2024 5:08 pm


Originally Posted by izzik (Post 36204870)
You can also just skip adding the FF#, then request credit for individual flights with each program after travel is completed.
Obviously, the downside is that if there are benefits tied to having the program on the ticket, you may not be able to use those (eg, seat assignments). YMMV

American explicitly prohibits changing the FFN if you obtain any benefits (more of issue in coach bookings) and also disallows number change post flight:
(4) You cannot accrue partner airline miles with your partner frequent flyer number if you have already used your AAdvantage® number to obtain any AAdvantage® Rewards and Benefits such as First or Business Class upgrades, baggage fee waivers, priority boarding, access to Preferred seats or complimentary access to Preferred / Main Cabin Extra seats
(7) After your flight departs, you will not be able to change your selection of a frequent traveler program with respect to that flight.

In the past I used FFN status to access first class CX lounge at LHR and also BA LHR First lounge just by showing my status card when the ticket had a different FFN but not sure if that works in other lounges.

izzik May 3, 2024 7:31 pm


Originally Posted by LilZeppelin (Post 36208526)
American explicitly prohibits changing the FFN if you obtain any benefits (more of issue in coach bookings) and also disallows number change post flight:
(4) You cannot accrue partner airline miles with your partner frequent flyer number if you have already used your AAdvantage® number to obtain any AAdvantage® Rewards and Benefits such as First or Business Class upgrades, baggage fee waivers, priority boarding, access to Preferred seats or complimentary access to Preferred / Main Cabin Extra seats
(7) After your flight departs, you will not be able to change your selection of a frequent traveler program with respect to that flight.

In the past I used FFN status to access first class CX lounge at LHR and also BA LHR First lounge just by showing my status card when the ticket had a different FFN but not sure if that works in other lounges.

What I described is the idea of booking a ticket but not adding the frequent flyer number. You fly your segments and then submit individual flights for retroactive credit with the desired program(s). This is perfectly legal because you are not trying to double-dip in any way. My following statement, "Obviously, the downside is that if there are benefits tied to having the program on the ticket, you may not be able to use those (eg, seat assignments)." refers to the idea that if you choose to withhold your FF# before flying (in order to claim retroactive credit afterwards), there may be a trade-off in doing so. For example, booking a BA business ticket still means you have to pay a seat assignment fee if your elite FF# is not on there. Make sense?

What you are describing is the following: (4) If someone puts their AA number on a revenue ticket to benefit from elite perks, then swaps to a different acct after such perks have been realized.
(7) someone cannot choose to credit a different program after traveling on the flight

Not sure what you thought I was saying, but this is a case of apples and oranges.

sapphireb May 4, 2024 7:19 pm


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 35094914)
This is intriguing
Interest in ex-CAI RTW fares was rekindled in early Feb - [MENTION=873896]PO48RA[/MENTION] posted that the base fare for a DONE4 was USD4664 (see Post #1113)
Other posts at that time indicated that the base fares were in EGP (e.g. post #1119 told us the DONE5 base fares was EGP145,000)
But then early this month the fares were being quoted in USD, and were higher (DONE4 for USD5220 for example; I actually made a note of these fares on March 8th, but didn't note which OW airline's fares I was looking at)
And now the fares have reverted to being quote in EGP and are the same as they were before the change to USD

Note: I used experflyer to look up the current fares. It displays the fares in the currency you choose, but if you click on the routing rules (!) for a fare, you can see what currency has been filed for the fare

BUT the bottom line is - these fares are a bargain!


sapphireb May 5, 2024 7:44 am

Does QF75 ticketeby AA as a codeshate count as 1 of the 4 necessary QF annual flights
 

Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 35416496)
I have provided the breakdown at https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/35413929-post13.html. Let me know if you have difficulties understanding the tax breakdown generated.



I must confess I did not know what Eaasy Sabre is and had to search on Google. It was great to learn such thing existed. I believe we have a couple of US- and Canada-based TAs on FT before the pandemic? Not sure if they are still around. https://nexion.com/ seems to be another option if someone in the US or Canada wants to have Sabre access themselves.


jerry a. laska May 5, 2024 10:53 am


Originally Posted by sapphireb (Post 36211410)
Does QF75 ticketeby AA as a codeshate count as 1 of the 4 necessary QF annual flights

Are you asking a question about the necessary flights required for QF status? If so, you should ask your question in the QF forum:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/qant...ent-flyer-498/

Viajero Millero May 5, 2024 8:18 pm

They let you ticket this with all those DFWs and DOHs? :eek:


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 36197678)
Yes, I have a few places I need/want to stop (BOS, BKK, and maybe DOH), otherwise it's maximizing miles.

NRT-DFW-BOS-DFW-ANC-DFW-SFO-DOH-DUB-DOH-MAD-DOH-ICN-CMB-BKK-CMB-NRT -- 54,114 BIS miles according to MileCalc.


ironmanjt May 5, 2024 8:31 pm


Originally Posted by Viajero Millero (Post 36212826)
They let you ticket this with all those DFWs and DOHs? :eek:

why not? There’s no rule on number of times you can transit a place? (within the segs per continent obv)

Viajero Millero May 6, 2024 5:50 pm

Nice. May have to copy some of that :idea:

ironmanjt May 6, 2024 6:02 pm


Originally Posted by Viajero Millero (Post 36215263)
Nice. May have to copy some of that :idea:

If maximizing earnings is your main goal it's certainly a pretty itinerary!

sony2012 May 7, 2024 10:04 am

DONE4 D class availability
 
I want to change my flights after the first flight but I am not sure if the flights are available. When I use ita matrix and restrict it to booking class D, I see there are tickets available in D but when I use oneworld page to book a new ticket that includes the flight segment, it doesn't show up. Does it mean that this particular segment is not bookable via DONE4? For example, I am trying to book HND-LON on JAL but on certain days the flight does not show up on oneworld page but D class is available on ita. Similar issue with CX for inter-asian flights. Oneworld shows only a limited number of flight combinations but ita shows nearly all...


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