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wingzing May 12, 2025 5:48 pm

Is EI a valid carrier on a OWE?

Mwenenzi May 12, 2025 6:25 pm


Originally Posted by rob_88 (Post 37081786)
Well, I hit book today, and my ticket has been "On Request" for 6-7 hours, so I'm assuming it's been shipped over to the One world ticketing desk to actually ticket manually. Fingers crossed they don't cancel it because I don't have an over water AA segment. Because I'm trying to limp over the BA Gold For Life Now threshold I'm prio-ing EI,JL,QR and AY.

Let's see what happens


Originally Posted by wingzing (Post 37082151)
Is EI a valid carrier on a OWE?

No. EI is not a oneworld airline.
Rule 3015

AA / AS / AT / AY / BA / CX / IB / JL / MH / NU / QF / QR / RJ / UL RWR2 RULE 3015

0. APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS
First / Business / Economy RTW / Open Jaw travel via AA/AS/AT/AY/BA/CX/IB/JL/MH/NU/QF/QR/RJ/UL
operated services worldwide.
<snip>


(j) Travel on any AA/AS/AT/AY/BA/CX/IB/JL/MH/NU/QF/QR/RJ/UL codeshare service operated by
AA/AS/AT/AY/BA/CX/IB/JL/MH/NU/QF/QR/RJ/UL is permitted.
Other codeshare services not permitted with the exception of QF Codeshare services operated by
Jetstar (JQ).
QF operated services within USA (eg LAX-JFK vv) not permitted unless booked in conjunction with a QF
operated and marketed online connection or stopover flight at LAX

<snip>

pandaperth May 12, 2025 6:50 pm


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 37082194)
No. EI is not a oneworld airline.
Rule 3015

EI is allowed on a Global Explorer ticket, which is what rob_88 has been talking about.

rob_88 May 13, 2025 12:11 am

Yep, this:


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 37082213)
EI is allowed on a Global Explorer ticket, which is what rob_88 has been talking about.

Seems it successfully ticketed overnight, and looks like it's all DGLOB34, even including one Eco (B class) sector on BA.

It's BA, EI, AA, JL, and QR. Ticketed on AA stock, booked through Bookwithmatrix. And it came in cheaper than my Corp TA could price it, so I'm pretty pleased. I'm getting where I need to go, with a scenic detour to see some friends on my way home, and it's gives me 3x what the equivalent BA itinerary would give me in their new program.

It's a total ballache getting Matrix to price a DGLOB34, but with a bit of patience I got there. Also looks like MatrixPowertools wasn't able to push my booking into the AA flow, while Bookwithmatrix was - though it only supports the US AA site. So, if you're okay paying in USD and your bank isn't overzealous with fraud detection then this is viable I think.

sydneyguy1234 May 13, 2025 1:59 am


Originally Posted by rob_88 (Post 37079733)
So, weird thing... Looks like I've found a way to get a DGLOB34 to price up with AA.com using ITA Matrix and Bookwithmatrix. All it took was one short AA domestic leg on an AA code.

Anyone know if I'll be able to get through to the AA RTW desk to service this if I book it? I'll definitely need to make some changes to the last couple of (non US) legs in a few months I'm curious if they'd refuse to deal with it because I booked it online?


it would be cool if xDONEx could be done on same way

headinclouds May 13, 2025 7:21 am


Originally Posted by rob_88 (Post 37082537)
Yep, this:

It's BA, EI, AA, JL, and QR. Ticketed on AA stock, booked through Bookwithmatrix. And it came in cheaper than my Corp TA could price it, so I'm pretty pleased. I'm getting where I need to go, with a scenic detour to see some friends on my way home, and it's gives me 3x what the equivalent BA itinerary would give me in their new program.

It's a total ballache getting Matrix to price a DGLOB34, but with a bit of patience I got there. Also looks like MatrixPowertools wasn't able to push my booking into the AA flow, while Bookwithmatrix was - though it only supports the US AA site. So, if you're okay paying in USD and your bank isn't overzealous with fraud detection then this is viable I think.

Several questions arise.
How many segments? Most online websites have a limit of 8 segments.
Where does the itinerary start if it is not a low cost origination?
Was the price converted to USD or the USA base fare?
Are you okay with sharing the itinerary as it may meet your needs but not the needs of most posters in this forum?

rob_88 May 13, 2025 11:17 am

Sure:
Osl-lhr on BA
Surface segment
MUC-DUB-SEA on EI
SEA-LAX on AA to trigger AA selling eligibility, otherwise I'd have done JL Codeshare
LAX-NRT-SIN on JL
SIN-DOH-MUC on QR
MUC-LHR-OSL on BA, but can take my pick from available Codeshares to tee up my next one ex OSL.

NOK converted to USD, albeit at an unfavourable FX rate due to the Commander in Cheeto's nonsense.


Dr. HFH May 13, 2025 7:09 pm


Originally Posted by sydneyguy1234 (Post 37082631)
it would be cool if xDONEx could be done on same way

It would be cool if the tool worked reliably.

ademanuele May 14, 2025 1:41 pm

We are trying to book LHR-GIG-EZE as part of a RTW trip in April using our travel agent. LHR-GIG is fine, but so far no availability on GIG-EZE. This is the BA flight that goes from LHR-EZE with a stopover in Rio. Has anyone tried to book GIG-EZE separately and if so did you have any issues with availability (or does anyone know what the issue might be here?).

Dr. HFH May 14, 2025 9:38 pm


Originally Posted by ademanuele (Post 37086055)
We are trying to book LHR-GIG-EZE as part of a RTW trip in April using our travel agent. LHR-GIG is fine, but so far no availability on GIG-EZE. This is the BA flight that goes from LHR-EZE with a stopover in Rio. Has anyone tried to book GIG-EZE separately and if so did you have any issues with availability (or does anyone know what the issue might be here?).

Depends on the date and fare class. You didn't mention whether you're in business or economy, give us an exact date, or tell us how many seats you need, but, for example, here's what I see on EF for April 2-8 (there's only one flight per day, BA 249, a 777 with no F cabin):

April 2 -- D6 L0
April 3 -- D0 L9
April 4 -- D1 L9
April 5 -- D6 L0
April 6 -- D8 L9
April 7 -- D1 L6
April 8 -- D0 L7

So it appears, at least to me, that your problem is likely a simple lack of availability in the cabin you've booked on the date(s) that you want.

serfty May 14, 2025 9:57 pm


Originally Posted by ademanuele (Post 37086055)
We are trying to book LHR-GIG-EZE as part of a RTW trip in April using our travel agent. LHR-GIG is fine, but so far no availability on GIG-EZE. This is the BA flight that goes from LHR-EZE with a stopover in Rio. Has anyone tried to book GIG-EZE separately and if so did you have any issues with availability (or does anyone know what the issue might be here?).

To add to Dr. HFH 's information you don't indicate whether you want a stopover or a transit at GIG. Availability can vary depending on that, and, also, it can vary based on the originating country of your xONEx.

ademanuele May 15, 2025 12:40 am


Originally Posted by serfty (Post 37086724)
To add to Dr. HFH 's information you don't indicate whether you want a stopover or a transit at GIG. Availability can vary depending on that, and, also, it can vary based on the originating country of your xONEx.

It is a stopover, we are looking at on a DONEx, actually 24th of March. EF is showing D0, we have been trying for a few weeks. Might ask our agent to look at a day earlier as it is showing D8.

EDIT: originating in OSL and first flight OSL-LHR

headinclouds May 15, 2025 6:22 am

Also take into consideration any special events happening in these cities. You are flying just a few days before Palm Sunday.

serfty May 16, 2025 6:35 pm


Originally Posted by ademanuele (Post 37086916)
It is a stopover, we are looking at on a DONEx, actually 24th of March. EF is showing D0, we have been trying for a few weeks. Might ask our agent to look at a day earlier as it is showing D8.

EDIT: originating in OSL and first flight OSL-LHR

In that case, I'd lock the day prior in.

It seems BA feel they do not need to offer discount business fares on that date at this stage. This can change with D availability appearing at a later date.

If it does, then since it is a stopover, it should be a strait forward revalidation to change to your preferred day.

flyhurl May 27, 2025 8:36 am

A bit OT, do we need a sticky for actual bookings and cost? Maybe following some format that includes dates, how booked, and airlines? The information here that includes the ins and outs of how to book seems to obscure actual examples of bookings.

Actual examples really do help newbies and everyone else.


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