Would ask this in the British Airways forum.
I am very sure CWS or KARFA will reply promptly.
With the new rules they just introduced, spins my head.

Thanks, will do!

No, if you credit to BA you will get the TPs credited in line with BAC rules for each airline/codeshare (I’m assuming you mean post April 1st, but current crediting is the same under the current rules) the grey area being how AA or BA sectors will credit?

I thought I’d share my experience booking my 4th Oneworld Classic flight itinerary this week. We have a son in London and a daughter in New York, thus we travel a lot. We sometimes do a paid RTW in between to rack up points and status and this year thanks to our recent RTW booked through AA, I’ve attained Platinum with Qantas and my husband has Platinum Pro with AA. Given that Qantas is devaluing their points after 5 August this year I thought we’d squeeze one more business class OWA trip in while I have access to the premium call centre. I spent two full days planning route after route, trying to find enough business class award flights to get us to the places we wanted to go. This is the itinerary I ended up with.

SYD-LAX (XO) -PDX- (XO) LAX-HND (XO) -BKK (XO) -HEL-LHR (XO)-PER-SYD

34,612 miles

Upon request Qantas released 2 x business class seats SYD-LAX (a month in US with family) then the Portland leg for a couple of weeks in Canada. Transiting back through LAX to a short stopover in Tokyo, then down to BKK when we will take separate positioning flights back to Sydney to spend Christmas before flying back to BKK in April to resume the OWA itinerary and transit HEL to London (Europe) to spend 3 months before coming back home.

I have booked dummy dates for the BKK-HEL-LHR-PER-SYD and plan to change those dates as soon as the flights become available for April/May and before my Platinum status runs out (in October this year). I hope to again request the release of 2 x QF business seats for the LHR-PER-SYD (alt. LHR-SIN-SYD). The other Finnair flights seem to have reasonable availability if I get in quickly.

I have to say that with Platinum status the entire booking process is a completely different ball game. Hitherto I have had no status and even with all the flight availability checked in advance, every single time was an exercise in anger management and frustration. Having access to the premium team – people who actually know what they are doing and are happy to actually do it for you! It was, believe it or not, a pleasant experience! The whole itinerary took just under 2 hours to book and ticket!

But my real problem here is that the LAX-HND on AA has only econ availability. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I could find business award availability on this leg? I have put flight alerts into EF for several AA flights on and around the required date and it shows JAL flights but not award availability. Worst case scenario, could we request a points upgrade closer to the time using my husband’s account as Plat Pro? Can that be done if it’s a qantas booked OWA itinerary?

Hoping to get some more experienced minds to give me some advice?

Is this a oneworld classic award, pye1201? If so, that's a Qantas-specific product and is probably best suited to the QF forum?

To me reads is a Qantas Oneworld classic award (which does not need to be around the world)
As such rules are not like the cash paid Oneworld products. Getting business award vs D class a very different problem.
AFF thread-->Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

Thank you - you're right. I will repost on the correct thread! Apologies for wasting anyone's time!!

£502 extra YQ tax OSL vs ARN??
 

Hello community, I'm hoping to book my first DONE5 tomorrow, if I can beat an imminent ticket deadline! I'm wondering if anyone can help with a YQ conundrum..

The AA RTW team have quoted me £5419 base fare + £1768 taxes and surcharges for ARN-MADx-BOG surface BAQ-MIA-MIA-LAX-HND-BKK-CMB-BOM-LHR-NBO-LHR-ARN

However when we switch to departure to/from OSL, they quoted £4719 (great!) plus £2270 taxes and surcharges (booo, thats £502 more!).

I cannot find any reason for this extra YQ.As far as I can see, Iberia charge the same YQ to BOG from both OSL and ARN, and I believe it's the same YQ for NBO to both OSL and ARN coming home with BA. The online booking tool shows a much lower tax and surcharge fare figure (approx £500 less), but I cant get it to book my itinerary.

Any thoughts on how to get past this extra £502? Would it be lower booked through IB themselves, or another airline?

Many thanks in advance, Giles_G

Yes that re-route is fine.

You can ticket oneworld fares on any oneworld carrier that participates in the itinerary - personally I tend to choose QF, QR or JL as the ticketing carrier. The online booking tool usually defaults to the first carrier, but not always.

The ticket stock is irrelevant for the purposes of crediting AA/IB/BA flights to BA. AA/IB/BA flights ticketed on non-AA/IB/BA ticket stock will still credit as fare-based rather than distance-based.

The flights will credit as per the marketing carrier. This means a BA/AA/IB flight (whether prime or codeshare) will credit as spend-based and everyone else will credit as distance-based. For clarity, AA operated by QR will credit as spend-based whereas QR operated by AA will credit as distance-based.

See above. BA/AA/IB flight (whether prime or codeshare) will credit as spend-based and everyone else will credit as distance-based.

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See above. BA/AA/IB flight (whether prime or codeshare) will credit as spend-based and everyone else will credit as distance-based.[/QUOTE]

That’s what I’d expect but wasn’t sure if BAC would have access to the full fare data to make that calculation if not booked with them?

I'm sure there's data sharing.

Yes, that is the real question here. Will BAC be able to to see the total cost of the ticket if they are the issuing carrier, and therfore will they only give TP based on spend? If so,it would be pointless crediting to them, or using them as the issuing carrier.

I've got a QF plated DONE with an AA segment. From AA's MMB flow I can get a full fare and taxes breakdown, so I assume data sharing happens between all OW carriers on these regardless of ticketing carrier. Given how tightly coupled AA and BA's revenue based points systems are, I suspect BA will get segment based fare costs pretty easily. That said, I'll be crediting this to BA when I fly in a couple months, so will report back.

Absolutely they do. The marketing carrier is the carrier on the ticket coupon and they know what they are getting paid for that ticket coupon.

Thus, airlines know the fare value of each ticket coupon the moment the ticket is issued. The backend data for all this is all filed with ATPCO by the airlines.

The ticket stock is irrelevant for this reason - regardless of ticket stock, when a ticket is issued, the proration of the fare across the coupons is known.

The marketing carrier then reports this data in the earn files to whoever the FFP is, if they have an agreement to report such data. AA obviously has agreements with BA/IB to report the data to them and vice versa.

See above for the explanation of how it works.

It doesn't matter who the ticketing carrier is as I stated previously. If it's BA/AA/IB marketed, they will know what the coupon is worth and report/credit accordingly.

Any participating carrier on the ticket can view the fare data. It's not specifically a oneworld thing. You can have a ticket that's got AC, LH and QF on it, issued by AC and AC/LH/QF will all know what their respective coupons are worth.

Hi Giles_G


The same routing from Oslo, just been told by British Airways that you are not allowed hitting London 2 times, they see it as backtracking (unable to price in Amadeus).

While the exact same route in Travelport is pricing it, but unable to store the fare, reason, exceeds more then 20 taxes (must be done manually. so no guaranteed quote).

Created also on the RTW tool, valid routing but unable to price it because the flight from Miami to Los Angeles is in Y.

Any experts on this issue?

Giles_G thanks for your patience.

Any experts on this issue?

regards