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Mwenenzi Apr 1, 2025 1:03 pm


Originally Posted by memanny (Post 36997878)
I am newbie to this. So bear with me. Are you saying in the same RTW I can credit to two different FFPs ?

Also based on what you say should I insist that my JL flight be a JL FLight and not an "AMERICAN AIRLINES OPERATED BY JAPAN AIRLINES"

Individual flights of a RTW can credit to different FFP's. But getting different ffn's for each segment in the reservation and having them stick is another question. Some times changing ffn's stick and other times not. A boarding pass can have a ffn printed on it, but at times will still credit to another airline ffp/ffn. All very problematic - random. A good travel agent can help.

In oneworld flights earn to a ffp based on the marketing flight (flight number) with an eligible operating carrier.

jagmeets Apr 1, 2025 10:56 pm


Originally Posted by sydneyguy1234 (Post 36988365)

Guess most people who booked with CX will naturally have a CX code and operated flight in the itinerary so didn't encounter the issue I have but still fine at least they don't require to have CX flights on any long/over water sectors like AA did.

CX gave me no pushback when I changed the ticketed points to DFW-DOH (AA code) + DOH-AGP (IB code). AA/IB had D inventory, while QR did not. It had initially been DFW-DOH-MAD on prime QR codes on a placeholder date.

zoombee Apr 2, 2025 1:23 am


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 36997909)
Individual flights of a RTW can credit to different FFP's. But getting different ffn's for each segment in the reservation and having them stick is another question. Some times changing ffn's stick and other times not. A boarding pass can have a ffn printed on it, but at times will still credit to another airline ffp/ffn. All very problematic - random. A good travel agent can help.

Yep. It's non trivial and error prone but also possible.

Asking for all FFNs to be removed then the one you want to be added seems (in my limited experience) to help. Certainly you can have 2+ FFNs on a ticket which obviously increases risks it won't credit where you wanted. As noted, what's on the boarding pass isn't always where it will credit, though having the boarding pass show the FFN you want the flight to credit to seems smart if the effort to fix issues later seems worthwhile. Eg aadvantage customer care were willing to decredit an aa flight for me which should have gone to ay.

wijibintheair Apr 3, 2025 3:14 am

Good day all. It's been a while since I last did a OW RTW and wonder if those is the know can just advise if this DONE4 would be valid.

OSL-LHRx-PDL-LHR-JNB-DOHx-YYZ-HKG-HAN-NRT-TPE-NRT-DOHx-OSL - I'm aware I'm losing out on 3 segments but sadly there is nothing else in North America that I can do, other than maybe an open-jaw in Canada, without entering the USA.

Any advice greatly appreciated.

izzik Apr 3, 2025 7:20 am

You could build in a land segment in Canada and buy a separate domestic Canada itinerary on AC or a local carrier.
Arrive in YYZ and fly out of yvr.

Cynicor Apr 3, 2025 3:38 pm

It’s not the perfect thread for it but my sabre quotes are auto-pricing as GLOBs not ONEs. If it doesn’t meet global rules it fails with now fare quote found.
anyone able to help out with a command to force XONEX pricing in sabre? Thank you!

Mwenenzi Apr 3, 2025 3:46 pm


Originally Posted by Cynicor (Post 37003050)
It’s not the perfect thread for it but my sabre quotes are auto-pricing as GLOBs not ONEs. If it doesn’t meet global rules it fails with now fare quote found.
anyone able to help out with a command to force XONEX pricing in sabre? Thank you!

May have a *ONE* error so getting the default GLOB fare/error message.
What is the ONE route?

Cynicor Apr 3, 2025 4:04 pm

It's happening on any route i try, i've never managed to price a ONE fare, it will only price GLOBs.
Even a simple NRT-SIN-SYD-LAX-JFK-NRT all on OW carriers will price as a glob. I'm very new to sabre, and am just using WPRW(YEN)AJL or whichever carrier.
I suspect there is a better command to use to try to force ONE pricing but am not certain.

If I create a route that satisfies ONE but not GLOB rules (i.e. too long) pricing just fails again.

wijibintheair Apr 4, 2025 2:55 am


Originally Posted by Cynicor (Post 37003096)
It's happening on any route i try, i've never managed to price a ONE fare, it will only price GLOBs.
Even a simple NRT-SIN-SYD-LAX-JFK-NRT all on OW carriers will price as a glob. I'm very new to sabre, and am just using WPRW(YEN)AJL or whichever carrier.
I suspect there is a better command to use to try to force ONE pricing but am not certain.

If I create a route that satisfies ONE but not GLOB rules (i.e. too long) pricing just fails again.

Exactly the same as I get when trying to use the online tool

Cynicor Apr 4, 2025 3:55 am

Ok, if I may ask the experienced minds here to check the itinerary for me, this is my target. It won't autoprice but I think it meets all the rules except it's 5 segments in asia (2 get two of three A/F flights that are offered)

HND-SIN-KUL-PKX(PEK)-HKG-PER-MEL-BNE-SYD-LAX-JFK(LGA)-DFW-LHR-DOH-NRT

I've put in brackets where we depart from a different airport but in the same city. Specific flights below
HND - TOKYO HANEDA
JAPAN AIRLINES, JL 37
SIN - SINGAPORE, SINGAPORE
MALAYSIA AIRLINES, MH 616
KUL - KUALA LUMPUR, MALAYSIA
MALAYSIA AIRLINES, MH 318
PKX - BEIJING DAXING, CHINA
PEK - BEIJING, CHINA
CATHAY PACIFIC AIRWAYS, CX 391
HKG - HONG KONG, HONG KONG S A R
CATHAY PACIFIC AIRWAYS, CX 171
PER - PERTH, AUSTRALIA
QANTAS AIRWAYS, QF 770
MEL - MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA
QANTAS AIRWAYS, QF 622
BNE - BRISBANE, AUSTRALIA
QANTAS AIRWAYS, QF 551
SYD - SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA
QANTAS AIRWAYS, QF 11
LAX - LOS ANGELES, CA
AMERICAN AIRLINES, AA 4
JFK - NEW YORK JFK, NY
LGA - NEW YORK LGA, NY
AMERICAN AIRLINES, AA 1626
DFW - DALLAS FT WORTH, TX
AMERICAN AIRLINES, AA 80
LHR - LONDON HEATHROW, UNITED KINGDOM
QATAR AIRWAYS, QR 4
DOH - DOHA HAMAD INTL, QATAR
QATAR AIRWAYS, QR 806
NRT - TOKYO NARITA, JAPAN

Any thoughts welcome!

izzik Apr 4, 2025 6:28 am

If you have 5 in Asia then it doesn't meet all the rules...
How is LGA a part of this? Oh you're connecting in DFW but it's not listed... This is kind of a mess

Cynicor Apr 4, 2025 6:38 am

My understanding of the rules is that you can have more segments for additional cost as long as the total is fewer than 16. Also that different airports in the same city didn’t count as a surface sector.
are either of those incorrect?

Oh yeah, just a typo missing dfw.

izzik Apr 4, 2025 6:42 am

Okay I think I see what you mean.
The per continent maximum is flight segments but land segments do count towards the 16.

Different airports in the same city count as land segments.

Are these all stopovers? If not, which are the connecting flights?

Cynicor Apr 4, 2025 6:56 am

Ah ok; i thought different airports within same city didn’t count as surface sectors. Probably worth reworking it then. Can easily do JFK-DFW too
May just get rid of the Asia segments and do HND-SIN-PER.

thank you

Cynicor Apr 4, 2025 7:16 am

HND-SIN-HKG
HKG-PER
PER-MEL-BNE-SYD-LAX-JFK
JFK-DFW-LHR
LHR-DOH-NRT

Hope that is clearer. Cities are grouped with transits <24 hours, each line has any stop of 24 hours or more.
Removed the extra flights so now it should meet all the rules without needing to worry about exceptions.
Thank you!



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