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Originally Posted by donotblink
(Post 37690488)
It sounds like getting it issued on Qatar is very challenging, unless you have a good travel agent you're willing to pay.
I think that if you are talking to American Airlines, you can ask if they can share information that's within the fare calculation line within the price quote. |
Originally Posted by spherehopper
(Post 37682601)
... and the BA flight LAX-LHR codeshared to AY so they'll all earn 50% of miles instead of the microscopic share of fare paid on the DONE4.
Buried deep down in the BA Club T&Cs under the Finnair section: For transatlantic flights marketed by AY but operated by British Airways, awards will be as per the British Airways awards If your schedule allows, a workaround would be to book the AY operated LAX-HEL. |
Originally Posted by MoodLighting
(Post 37691192)
The BA operated / AY-coded LAX-LHR will likely credit as if it were a BA flight.
Buried deep down in the BA Club T&Cs under the Finnair section: . NB the poor wording is BA's, rather than my own. If your schedule allows, a workaround would be to book the AY operated LAX-HEL. I wonder how the fare paid would be visible to them as the ticket issued by QR. This flight is being flown early July so I'll report back. |
Originally Posted by spherehopper
(Post 37691224)
In which case they should add the bonus TPs (Fully Flex Club World 1,100 tier points)?
I wonder how the fare paid would be visible to them as the ticket issued by QR. This flight is being flown early July so I'll report back. |
Originally Posted by MoodLighting
(Post 37691303)
Yeah, this is where the recent changes to BA Club bonuses are a total mess. I hope this works in your favour. AFAIK, there's no direct mapping from cabin prime and subclasses to these definitions of flexible, non-flexible etc. Though if you use the BA Tier Points calculator, it does group JCD together into "business flexible." - note it doesn't differentiate between semi and fully flexible in this table. If there's any shilly shallying, I'd say you have a case in your favour. Though I would also be screenshotting stuff. How unlike BA to make a change like this without thinking through how to transparently explain it to customers. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by spherehopper
(Post 37691224)
In which case they should add the bonus TPs (Fully Flex Club World 1,100 tier points)?
I wonder how the fare paid would be visible to them as the ticket issued by QR. This flight is being flown early July so I'll report back. RTW fares are published fares, so they are visible for all OW partner airlines (most of them also use the same system Altea). Different then Bulk fares, then the actual fare is not visible. |
Originally Posted by dutch_122
(Post 37691361)
RTW fares are published fares, so they are visible for all OW partner airlines (most of them also use the same system Altea).
Different then Bulk fares, then the actual fare is not visible. |
Originally Posted by Jun_Man
(Post 37691362)
They just divide the ticket price by the number of flights to work this out?
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Originally Posted by Jun_Man
(Post 37691362)
They just divide the ticket price by the number of flights to work this out?
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Originally Posted by donotblink
(Post 37691397)
I can't speak for British Airways, which is what I think the original question was about, but in terms of American Airlines crediting AA coded flights to my account, ticketed as part of an around the world ticket, I've had some really bizarre earnings, I've had some super short flights that credit a lot of miles, and some longer flights that barely credit any miles. Most of them were posted as utilizing the fare and not distance.
EDIT: so a straight-line basis (i.e. ticket cost divided by flights) or a weighted basis (segment mileage divided by total mileage multiplied by ticket cost) would both be options, and would be consistent for all OW airlines |
Originally Posted by Jun_Man
(Post 37691449)
But if it's not consistent amongst all OW airlines, then don't you end up with the potential scenarios that either you are getting benefits or disadvantages on less than (or more than) 100% of what you book? Is that expected? It seems strange to me - my natural assumption is that the airlines all agree, that if you need to make a calculation for a flight that you are responsible for, this is the basis. This could apply to YQ / YR, crediting Avios, or loyalty scheme points, or any other metric.
EDIT: so a straight-line basis (i.e. ticket cost divided by flights) or a weighted basis (segment mileage divided by total mileage multiplied by ticket cost) would both be options, and would be consistent for all OW airlines |
Originally Posted by donotblink
(Post 37691500)
I think what you're saying objectively makes sense I have a feeling frankly based off of my experience with AA that many of the loyalty systems may not be engineered or set up to deal with 16 segment trips with lots of carriers and lots of complexity.
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Originally Posted by Jun_Man
(Post 37691362)
They just divide the ticket price by the number of flights to work this out?
Originally Posted by spherehopper
(Post 37691369)
Isn't it sector mileage divided by total mileage, in which case it would be 1/9th vs 1/16th (sectors on my DONE4). 1/9th base fare is c £450.
Originally Posted by donotblink
(Post 37691397)
I can't speak for British Airways, which is what I think the original question was about, but in terms of American Airlines crediting AA coded flights to my account, ticketed as part of an around the world ticket, I've had some really bizarre earnings, I've had some super short flights that credit a lot of miles, and some longer flights that barely credit any miles. Most of them were posted as utilizing the fare and not distance.
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Originally Posted by donotblink
(Post 37691500)
I have a feeling frankly based off of my experience with AA that many of the loyalty systems may not be engineered or set up to deal with 16 segment trips with lots of carriers and lots of complexity.
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Originally Posted by Jun_Man
(Post 37691362)
They just divide the ticket price by the number of flights to work this out?
Even more complicated, as some sectors are longer then the other ones. Have 2 trips, with 5 unused flights (due cancellation QR) Refund Application just filed. Note: recalculation of Round the World fares always needs to be verified by the issuing carrier. I am good with numbers, but this makes my head buzzing. When have an answer from Qatar let you know. |
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