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Originally Posted by Dr. HFH
(Post 37638570)
I find this curious/interesting. Would you mind reproducing the fare ladder for us?
PS - I have no clue as to what the taxes codes meant. If someone could explain them to me, much appreciated. |
Originally Posted by Dr. HFH
(Post 37638570)
I'v
AUD 900 sounds pretty steep to me. ? |
Originally Posted by Cynicor
(Post 37638781)
It is, but also these fares are a lot of work with near 0 commission, esp if it originates outside of aus. My fee is a bit of a "go away" quote. If the client wants to pay then I'll take the money but it's easier than the likely hassle that will be generated with booking these. Esp as sabre doesn't work well with them and so we must ticket on the final carrier or run into more issues.
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Originally Posted by Dr. HFH
(Post 37638570)
I've read in the past in various FT fora that Qantas sometimes makes up its own rules. I don't think that there's anything that IATA can, will, or would do. I don't see this as an IATA issue. Your situation sounds a lot like dealing with Immigration when entering Thailand after landing at BKK. The rules are whatever the Immigration officer you're standing in front of says they are.
Most Qantas frontline agents cannot override ticket validity and do not understand RTW fare construction so they don't know how to do this. I have now restructured the itinerary so I have all the destinations I want with the last flight before the 29th of October. Once they reissue the ticket, I'll simply change the dates of the affected flights - no fee for that. Hopefully this is helpful for anyone else that runs into the same problem. |
Originally Posted by A1pax
(Post 37638762)
I tried to snipe and paste but could not do it. So I manually typed here the taxes: A$210 AU, $251 WY, $36 SW, $38 TO, $93 KK, $17 SG, $465 GB, $97 UB, $145 M3, $66 US, $11 YC, $10 XY, $6 XA, $16 AY, $36 CA, $41 G3, $27 W1, $7 XF, and the carrier fees $495 YQ, $220 YR. As I mentioned earlier the difference between the all-in-cost (base fare + these numbers) and I had to pay the agent pp is around $900. I think this was probably excessive. May give AA desk a try next time?
PS - I have no clue as to what the taxes codes meant. If someone could explain them to me, much appreciated. SW is Japan's Passenger Service Facilities Charge. TO is Tonga's charge and tax. KK is New Zealand's Passenger Service Charge. SG is Singapore's Passenger Service and Security Fee. GB and UB are the UK's Air Passenger Duty (APD) and Passenger Service Charge. M3 is Barbados' Airport Service Charge. US, YC, XY, XA, AY, and XF are the US's Transportation Tax, Customs User Fee, Immigration User Fee, APHIS Passenger Fee, Passenger Civil Aviation Security Service Fee, and Passenger Facility Charge, respectively CA and W1 are Canada's Air Travellers Security Charge and Airport Improvement Fee, respectively. G3 is Hong Kong's Airport Construction Fee. |
Originally Posted by ernestnywang
(Post 37640707)
AU and WY are Australia's Passenger Movement Charge, Passenger Services Charge, respectively.
SW is Japan's Passenger Service Facilities Charge. TO is Tonga's charge and tax. KK is New Zealand's Passenger Service Charge. SG is Singapore's Passenger Service and Security Fee. GB and UB are the UK's Air Passenger Duty (APD) and Passenger Service Charge. M3 is Barbados' Airport Service Charge. US, YC, XY, XA, AY, and XF are the US's Transportation Tax, Customs User Fee, Immigration User Fee, APHIS Passenger Fee, Passenger Civil Aviation Security Service Fee, and Passenger Facility Charge, respectively CA and W1 are Canada's Air Travellers Security Charge and Airport Improvement Fee, respectively. G3 is Hong Kong's Airport Construction Fee. |
Originally Posted by A1pax
(Post 37640802)
Can these codes be found anywhere - just curious?
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Originally Posted by A1pax
(Post 37640802)
THANK YOU so much, ernestnywang, for your detailed and excellent explanation of the codes - really appreciated it 👍🏼. Can these codes be found anywhere - just curious?
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I'm working on a LONE3 through AA and hitting a strange CX issue.
Need HKG-ICN on 22 Mar. I can see what looks like L inventory on ExpertFlyer, the flight appears sellable via CX channels, and ITA Matrix also seems to show regular flights for sale in L. But AA says they cannot access/see L for that CX segment and therefore can’t add it to the Explorer. So: has anyone seen a case where EF + ITA + CX sales channels show L, but AA still can’t book the CX segment in L on a paid oneworld Explorer? From older FT threads, it looks like CX may not expose the same inventory to AA that appears elsewhere. Is that true/still true? Would appreciate any data points, especially:
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Originally Posted by donotblink
(Post 37642252)
I'm working on a LONE3 through AA and hitting a strange CX issue.
Need HKG-ICN on 22 Mar. I can see what looks like L inventory on ExpertFlyer, the flight appears sellable via CX channels, and ITA Matrix also seems to show regular flights for sale in L. But AA says they cannot access/see L for that CX segment and therefore can’t add it to the Explorer. So: has anyone seen a case where EF + ITA + CX sales channels show L, but AA still can’t book the CX segment in L on a paid oneworld Explorer? From older FT threads, it looks like CX may not expose the same inventory to AA that appears elsewhere. Is that true/still true? Would appreciate any data points, especially:
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Originally Posted by danger
(Post 37640845)
Here's an old blog article: https://blog.thetravelinsider.info/air-travel-taxes.
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Originally Posted by donotblink
(Post 37642252)
I'm working on a LONE3 through AA and hitting a strange CX issue.
Need HKG-ICN on 22 Mar. I can see what looks like L inventory on ExpertFlyer, the flight appears sellable via CX channels, and ITA Matrix also seems to show regular flights for sale in L. But AA says they cannot access/see L for that CX segment and therefore can’t add it to the Explorer. So: has anyone seen a case where EF + ITA + CX sales channels show L, but AA still can’t book the CX segment in L on a paid oneworld Explorer? From older FT threads, it looks like CX may not expose the same inventory to AA that appears elsewhere. Is that true/still true? Would appreciate any data points, especially:
Originally Posted by danger
(Post 37642468)
It could be a married segment issue, but it sounds like you may have that covered.
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Originally Posted by ernestnywang
(Post 37642999)
What is your Point of Commencement (POC)? Do you have segments within 24 hours before or after ("married segment" referenced above)? Those matter. Manual pricing would not make a difference.
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Originally Posted by donotblink
(Post 37643422)
The RTW tcket starts in Tokyo HND. No segments within 24 hours.
Code:
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SN*O22MARHKGICN/PCHND |
Originally Posted by A1pax
(Post 37638012)
I have a DONE4 itin and a rough idea on the base fare (ex Japan). How much should I expect to pay a TA commission / fee to ticket it? Would the (all inclusive) fare be the same as calling AA desk to ticket. Does AA desk charge a fee? Thanks in advance.
In my experience, travel agents typically charge around $125-$150 per person per ticket issuance. Some may charge much more or much less, of course. There's also American Express Platinum Travel, available if you hold an AmEx Platinum card (this is separate from regular American Express Travel, which is primarily website). Last time I used them, they didn't charge a fee. |
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