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Mwenenzi Feb 12, 2026 12:45 pm


Originally Posted by LilZeppelin (Post 37593579)
One of my ex CAI rtws contained 17 segments if counting the unflown surface sector between origin and destination (within ME such as CAI AMM).
Not sure if that was overlooked because of numerous changes I had to do or if that is permitted by the rules.

16 segments(coupons) is a technical limit of e-tickets. Pre e-ticket with paper tickets/coupons it was 32
3015 rule 4 (c)

(c) Travel may originate at any point for which fares are published and must terminate at the same point,
except that origin-destination surface segments are permitted as follows:
a. within the country of origin
b. within the Middle East
c. between the United States and Canada
d. between HKG and China
e. between Malaysia and SIN
f. within Africa
g. between Maldives and Sri Lanka/India

Which is taken to mean open jaw origin to destination allowed.


Dr. HFH Feb 12, 2026 4:43 pm


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 37593680)
16 segments(coupons) is a technical limit of e-tickets. Pre e-ticket with paper tickets/coupons it was 32.

When did e-tickets start? I've had plenty of paper Explorer tickets, both A and D, and with three, four, and five continents, but never had the option to book more than 16 segments. (Back when paper tickets were hand-written with red carbon, this was four of the four-flight ticket books with blue covers.) My first one was probably in the early 201x time period. I thought that it was a technical limitation of res systems going way back, long before OWE fares started, and unrelated to whether or not the ticket was on paper.

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Mwenenzi Feb 12, 2026 5:14 pm

off topic

Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 37594120)
When did e-tickets start?....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_ticket

<snip>
E-tickets in the airline industry were devised in about 1994,[1] and have now largely replaced the older multi-layered paper ticketing systems. Since 1 June 2008, it has been mandatory for IATA members to use e-ticketing. Where paper tickets are still available, some airlines charge a fee for issuing paper tickets
<snip>
Those of us who remember paper carbon copy airline tickets are of a certain age!

Dr. HFH Feb 12, 2026 6:27 pm


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 37594163)
Those of us who remember paper carbon copy airline tickets are of a certain age!

We certainly are. Reminiscing . . . .

My first OWE was an AONE4, ex-MRU. That was back when the ticket had to be purchased in the origin country of your first flight, and Mauritius was the cheapest originating country. I bought the ticket from the local BA ticket office in Mauritius. It was my first time in the nose of a 747, first time in international F. That first flight was BA to LHR. The BA staff in Mauritius were all lovely to deal with on the phone, but didn't really understand the rules and cared even less about trying to follow them, so you could pretty much get them to do whatever you wanted. After a few years I moved on to Mindpearl in South Africa (can't remember why). Both BA and Mindpearl shipped the paper tickets to me in Boston by DHL.

I remember buying a couple of tickets from the Flight Centre in Australia. In particular, when OneWorld had the 10% off sale for the 10th year anniversary, I did an AONE5 with a friend where the entire trip was an MR, bought that one from Flight Centre. We never stayed in a city for more than 24 hours, except SEA where I had a hospital appointment, and SIN where we stopped for something like 26 hours.

Since then, I've only used the AA RTW Desk.

serfty Feb 12, 2026 10:51 pm

My first xONEx was of 20 segments. That was the limit in 2005.

It was comprised of 5 x 4 voucher paper ticket booklets stapled together.

paul4471 Feb 13, 2026 5:20 am

Just another question - am I right in understanding the 2entry/exit rule for NA would allow an itinerary like this:
---->GIG-xMIA-LIM-MIA---->

TQ2 Feb 13, 2026 1:12 pm


Originally Posted by Always Flyin (Post 37593279)
Keep in mind that what you find in "D" availability on publicly available tools is not necessarily the same as what is actually available for RTW tickets.

I find it to be more of an issue with "A" fares on first class RTWs.

Is this also the case with the Oneworld booking tool? It is showing bucket figures and I had thought if you could get through the point of reviewing flights it would have availability. Am I being overly optimistic?
Not that I am planning on booking through the tool, rather trying to do as much leg work as possible before contacting a TA

pandaperth Feb 13, 2026 2:06 pm


Originally Posted by paul4471 (Post 37594899)
Just another question - am I right in understanding the 2entry/exit rule for NA would allow an itinerary like this:
---->GIG-xMIA-LIM-MIA---->

No, your understanding is incorrect.
What you have is multiple entries/exit to South America
(The entries/exits to North America are OK though)

Jun_Man Feb 14, 2026 4:35 pm

Hi all, I have booked my first DONE3 and very much looking forward to the experience. My route is as follows:

OSL-doh-hel-nrt-BLR-nrt-SIN-hnd-dfw-bos-lax-anc-DFW-sea-lax-doh-OSL

(Apologies if I've got the presentation wrong; my stopovers are in BLR, SIN and DFW).

Can anyone give me any guidance on the taxes I've paid - c.£1,500. Reading through this thread and the User Guide, have I incurred additional taxes from having a stopover in BLR? Almost all of the flights are codeshares on AY and JL (OSL-DOH and LAX-DOH on QR; ANC-DFW on QF). Any feedback gratefully received - would they be lower if I went ex-TYO? Thinking ahead to my next booking. Thank you!

Always Flyin Feb 14, 2026 5:14 pm


Originally Posted by TQ2 (Post 37595570)
Is this also the case with the Oneworld booking tool? It is showing bucket figures and I had thought if you could get through the point of reviewing flights it would have availability. Am I being overly optimistic?
Not that I am planning on booking through the tool, rather trying to do as much leg work as possible before contacting a TA

The availability on the tool has been correct for me. It is just very cumbersome.

Mwenenzi Feb 14, 2026 6:11 pm


Originally Posted by Jun_Man (Post 37597354)
Hi all, I have booked my first DONE3 and very much looking forward to the experience. My route is as follows:
OSL-doh-hel-nrt-BLR-nrt-SIN-hnd-dfw-bos-lax-anc-DFW-sea-lax-doh-OSL
(Apologies if I've got the presentation wrong; my stopovers are in BLR, SIN and DFW).

Can anyone give me any guidance on the taxes I've paid - c.£1,500. Reading through this thread and the User Guide, have I incurred additional taxes from having a stopover in BLR? Almost all of the flights are codeshares on AY and JL (OSL-DOH and LAX-DOH on QR; ANC-DFW on QF). Any feedback gratefully received - would they be lower if I went ex-TYO? Thinking ahead to my next booking. Thank you!

Real govt taxes or carrier surcharges YQ YR? BA & QF are know for carrier surcharges, but not always on every flight.
Booked online or travel agent? Which airline issued the ticket? 001=AA, 081=QF Qantas, 157=QR Qatar, etc.
ANC-DFW as Qantas QF codeshare a little unusable.Will be AS or AA operating airline. Did you ask for codeshares? It may because of D availability.

Dr. HFH Feb 14, 2026 8:39 pm


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 37597462)
Will be AS or AA operating airline.

AS doesn't fly nonstop between ANC and DFW, it will be AA metal.

Jun_Man Feb 15, 2026 4:24 am


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 37597462)
Real govt taxes or carrier surcharges YQ YR? BA & QF are know for carrier surcharges, but not always on every flight.
Booked online or travel agent? Which airline issued the ticket? 001=AA, 081=QF Qantas, 157=QR Qatar, etc.
ANC-DFW as Qantas QF codeshare a little unusable.Will be AS or AA operating airline. Did you ask for codeshares? It may because of D availability.

Thank you for the quick reply: booked via TA; ticketing airline is QR; I did ask for codeshares.

My assumption is that the bulk of the charge is YQ / YR, but ultimately I'm curious to understand what would be determining factors for the entire amount. When I asked the TA (and it was to a certain extent moot because i was going to book the ticket anyway) I was told they couldn't know without some trial and error on different routes etc. I'm trying to find out more, so that when I book next time, I can go into the process with a more informed view as to what works and what doesn't. For example, I could just as easily do an ex-TYO DONE4 (which appears to have a good base ticket price, based on the latest table I've seen), and would do so if that made a material difference to the taxes and surcharges. There was a comment up thread about India introducing a premium for business class cabins, which was what prompted me to ask my original question - I presume that would not count as YQ / YR if I've paid it.

If I asked the TA, should they be able to give me a line by line breakdown of the taxes?


Jun_Man Feb 15, 2026 4:29 am


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 37597585)
AS doesn't fly nonstop between ANC and DFW, it will be AA metal.

Yes, that is what my reservation states, QF 4472 operated by American Airlines. I have AS operating LAX-ANC and DFW-SEA; and Skywest American Eagle operating SEA-LAX.

serfty Feb 16, 2026 2:43 pm


Originally Posted by Jun_Man (Post 37597922)
Thank you for the quick reply: booked via TA; ticketing airline is QR; I did ask for codeshares.

My assumption is that the bulk of the charge is YQ / YR, but ultimately I'm curious to understand what would be determining factors for the entire amount. When I asked the TA (and it was to a certain extent moot because i was going to book the ticket anyway) I was told they couldn't know without some trial and error on different routes etc. I'm trying to find out more, so that when I book next time, I can go into the process with a more informed view as to what works and what doesn't. For example, I could just as easily do an ex-TYO DONE4 (which appears to have a good base ticket price, based on the latest table I've seen), and would do so if that made a material difference to the taxes and surcharges. There was a comment up thread about India introducing a premium for business class cabins, which was what prompted me to ask my original question - I presume that would not count as YQ / YR if I've paid it.

If I asked the TA, should they be able to give me a line by line breakdown of the taxes?

If you have at least one flight on Finnair, you may be able to get an email with a breakdown of the levies, surcharges and taxes that have been charged.

Using the Amadeus PNR and your Surname, this will be possible if you can bring the booking up using Finnair manage booking.

https://www.finnair.com/us-en/manage

If the booking comes up, click "Passenger and Documents" on the left, then select "E-Ticket and document numbers" that appears. Choose "Send e-ticket receipt", select/enter your email address.

In a few minutes you should receive an email, among the content of which is a full list of the Surcharge, Tax and Levy codes and the amount of each.


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