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Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
(Post 37552324)
There is no rule that prevents QR from being the first flight.
Have you downloaded the rules? https://www.oneworld.com/round-the-world Look in FAQ And very useful QF link from 2018, but assume still current, as regions do not change. https://www.qantas.com/content/dam/q...continents.pdf From DAR Wikipedia no oneworld airline fly's NBO-DAR non stop. Could do as land segment -DOH-NBO, DAR-MCT- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius...tional_Airport "Generally, the ticket will be issued by whichever airline flies your first segment.The first carrier cannot be Qatar Airways.Depending on airline, you either pay in the tool or you will be given a reference number to pay by phone." Yes, the NBO to DAR would be a surface segment. I will take a look at the QF 2018 link. Thank you! |
Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
(Post 37552324)
There is no rule that prevents QR from being the first flight.
Have you downloaded the rules? https://www.oneworld.com/round-the-world Look in FAQ And very useful QF link from 2018, but assume still current, as regions do not change. https://www.qantas.com/content/dam/q...continents.pdf From DAR Wikipedia no oneworld airline fly's NBO-DAR non stop. Could do as land segment -DOH-NBO, DAR-MCT- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius...tional_Airport |
Originally Posted by SDandi
(Post 37552460)
Thanks so much for your input. I saw the bit on QR in The Oneworld Explorer User Guide posted in this thread under the "Ticket Purchase" section
"Generally, the ticket will be issued by whichever airline flies your first segment.The first carrier cannot be Qatar Airways.Depending on airline, you either pay in the tool or you will be given a reference number to pay by phone." Yes, the NBO to DAR would be a surface segment. I will take a look at the QF 2018 link. So do not fully agree with that wording. Is no "rule" Oman Air routes (wikipedia is not alway up to date, but a simple clear listing) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...r_destinations When the HA brand (owned by AS Alaska) routes get added will be a small route expansion. Those in the south Pacific will be welcomed (PPT, PPG etc) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_destinations |
Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
(Post 37552501)
Do not get confused between first flight airline and ticketing airline. Is not always the same. Qantas is the default ticketing carrier for many itineraries from the OW tool. Some good travel agents can ticket on a range of carriers. From memory QR Qatar and AS Alaska do not issue OW tickets[may be incorrect]. May be others.
So do not fully agree with that wording. Is no "rule" Oman Air routes (wikipedia is not alway up to date, but a simple clear listing) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...r_destinations When the HA brand (owned by AS Alaska) routes get added will be a small route expansion. Those in the south Pacific will be welcomed (PPT, PPG etc) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_destinations The Oman Air routes have been difficult to navigate. They seem to change quite a bit. The issue I am dealing with is getting in and out of Africa (from Oslo). If I recall, I can only transit DOH once. So, it's figuring out if it's best to use QR from Oslo or, leaving NBO. Looking at my last RTW, I did a very similar itinerary, just in reverse. Also impacted by Covid, so some adjustments/exceptions were made. Thanks again! I appreciate any and all input! |
Originally Posted by SDandi
(Post 37552522)
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The Oman Air routes have been difficult to navigate. They seem to change quite a bit. If I recall, I can only transit DOH once. I personally have transited DOH three times and stopped over once on a single RTW (JNB-xDOH-EZE...BKK-xDOH-CMN-DOH-OSL-xDOH-NBO) And on another RTW: KHI-xDOH-NBO-xDOH-LCA-xDOH-WAW-xDOH-SFO... I got to know the Al Mourjan lounge very well :D |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 37552602)
For exploring airline routes, I use Flight Connections
Not so. There is no restriction on stopovers/transits - other than at the point of origin and that only two stopovers are allowed in the continent of origin. I personally have transited DOH three times and stopped over once on a single RTW (JNB-xDOH-EZE...BKK-xDOH-CMN-DOH-OSL-xDOH-NBO) And on another RTW: KHI-xDOH-NBO-xDOH-LCA-xDOH-WAW-xDOH-SFO... I got to know the Al Mourjan lounge very well :D This ticket is looking like a possibility. I'll work on it and share it here for feedback. Thank you! |
Hello
First post here so tell me if I violate any norms. I am trying to book LYS-MAD-NRT-SEA-LAX-TPA-LYS, business class starting in September. All is well (plenty of seats, valid itinerary etc), until I try to buy it. I get an error message for LYS-MAD and MAD-NRT (both Iberia flights) that says waitlists. So I tried various dates, thinking that I would pull the trigger and change it later. I have tried dates from February onwards, and get the error every time. I tried the AA chatline, but the only advice they gave me was to wait (which doesn't seem to be useful). Any ideas? Thanks |
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Originally Posted by evestayeadray
(Post 37553080)
First post here so tell me if I violate any norms.
I am trying to book LYS-MAD-NRT-SEA-LAX-TPA-LYS, business class starting in September. All is well (plenty of seats, valid itinerary etc), until I try to buy it. I get an error message for LYS-MAD and MAD-NRT (both Iberia flights) that says waitlists. So I tried various dates, thinking that I would pull the trigger and change it later. I have tried dates from February onwards, and get the error every time. I tried the AA chatline, but the only advice they gave me was to wait (which doesn't seem to be useful). Any ideas? The IB MAD flights may have a married seagments issue. Try more than 24hrs and less than 24 hours between flights. The OW onlline is known to be buggy. Can and does give false error messages. An error somewhere, but not what the text is saying. Is not a non stop fight TPA-LYS. So will need 1 or 2 transit airports. The OW tool will try to find intermediate airports, but can be better if you select. Be careful not to exceed the number if segments in EU-ME region. The oneworld airlines at LYS are BA IB RAM & RJ, so a reasonable choice of airlines/routes. TPA has BA to LGW. LGW to LHR by surface would count as a segment NRT-SEA has JL & AS non stop (source wikipedia). The AS flight is HA brand, so as yet not oneworld. HA will be in OW on 22 Apr 2026. Check if flying on your dates. Also consider HND (the other Tokyo airport) http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=c%3Ablu...=bm&PW=3&DU=mi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyon%E...3%A9ry_Airport https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tampa_...tional_Airport https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gatwick_Airport https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madrid...arajas_Airport https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narita...tional_Airport |
Hi all. Working on my next ticket and running into an issue in my North America segment that I am hoping you can help with. I have a transcontinental flight (LAX-JFK) and I really want to add a trip to Panama City, Panama, but I can't seem to do it without having to pass through Miami, which would be a second transcontinental flight. Any suggestions? Here is what I have so far:
OSL-xDOH-NBO-DOH-SGN-HGK-LAX-JFK-(DFW-LAX surface)(this is where I would put Panama City)-LAX-HEL-OSL Thanks in advance for your help. |
Originally Posted by SDandi
(Post 37561902)
Hi all. Working on my next ticket and running into an issue in my North America segment that I am hoping you can help with. I have a transcontinental flight (LAX-JFK) and I really want to add a trip to Panama City, Panama, but I can't seem to do it without having to pass through Miami, which would be a second transcontinental flight. Any suggestions? Here is what I have so far:
OSL-xDOH-NBO-DOH-SGN-HGK-LAX-JFK-(DFW-LAX surface)(this is where I would put Panama City)-LAX-HEL-OSL Thanks in advance for your help. To get around the 2nd second transcontinental flight (3015 rule 4J) need to have an intermediate transit airport. DFW, ORD or what ever xxx-LAX-DFW/ORD-MIA-PTY-xxx What is a cash fare MIA-PTY if running over the 6 NA segments allowed? A map from the Great Circle Mapper - Great Circle Mapper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tocume...tional_Airport The other oneworld airline to PTY is IB to/from MAD (Spain). Instead of AA back for LAX-HEL fly IB PTY-MAD-xxx Edit Getting back to USA west coast from PTY takes segments and the transcontinental rule limits options So fly Iberia PTY-MAD-OSL as attached (still may have itinerary errors) pandaPerth can give advice on DOH-NDO-DOH [ EU/ME Africa ]. Unsure if allowed. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...c5a40ffb8f.jpg |
Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
(Post 37561920)
Have not looked at your itinerary in detail
To get around the 2nd second transcontinental flight (3015 rule 4J) need to have an intermediate transit airport. DFW, ORD or what ever xxx-LAX-DFW/ORD-MIA-PTY-xxx What is a cash fare MIA-PTY if running over the 6 NA segments allowed? A map from the Great Circle Mapper - Great Circle Mapper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tocume...tional_Airport The other oneworld airline to PTY is IB to/from MAD (Spain). Instead of AA back for LAX-HEL fly IB PTY-MAD-xxx Edit Getting back to USA west coast from PTY takes segments and the transcontinental rule limits options So fly Iberia PTY-MAD-OSL as attached (still may have itinerary errors) https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...8ff590accf.jpg I also looked at cash pay for MIA-PTY-MIA and it's not bad. It may still put me over the 6 North America Segments though. Thank you! |
Originally Posted by SDandi
(Post 37561955)
Wow- this is great feedback- thank you! I will look into the PTY-MAD. Ironically, I need to be in BCN when I end this trip, so that may work out.
I also looked at cash pay for MIA-PTY-MIA and it's not bad. It may still put me over the 6 North America Segments though. Thank you! Surface (open jaw) do not count to the continent total but are in the 16 total. [years ago with paper tickets was a max of 32 segments] Many variations possible. |
Originally Posted by SDandi
(Post 37561902)
Hi all. Working on my next ticket and running into an issue in my North America segment that I am hoping you can help with. I have a transcontinental flight (LAX-JFK) and I really want to add a trip to Panama City, Panama, but I can't seem to do it without having to pass through Miami, which would be a second transcontinental flight. Any suggestions? Here is what I have so far:
OSL-xDOH-NBO-DOH-SGN-HGK-LAX-JFK-(DFW-LAX surface)(this is where I would put Panama City)-LAX-HEL-OSL Thanks in advance for your help. |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 37562126)
Is the order of flights in North America important? Could you fly ...HKG-JFK-LAX... instead? If yes, then the itinerary could be ...HKG-JFK-MIA-PTY-MIA-LAX...
OSL-xDOH-NBO-DOH-SGN-HGK-LAX-JFK-(DFW-LAX surface)(this is where I would put Panama City)-LAX-HEL-OSL |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 37562126)
Is the order of flights in North America important? Could you fly ...HKG-JFK-LAX... instead? If yes, then the itinerary could be ...HKG-JFK-MIA-PTY-MIA-LAX...
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