It takes <24 hours to get a rate back from AA if you use the AA RTW desk. Sometimes it will be a bit more if you book on a Friday or the weekend.

Yep, and good for people to know. I'd add that you can get priced while you wait (often a good while) on the phone if you fly soon (more likely for a change to an existing ticket of course).

When pricing to explore the impact of routings I looked up a dozen similar routes. Maybe it's just me but I would not feel comfortable asking for those at the same time, or even one after the other as edits which would take a fortnight elapsed but would at least save the hour-ish on phone set up from scratch can take.

If you have your route nailed, or nearly so, and are focused on ticketing then I would certainly say call AA unless you know what you're doing and have a good reason to ticket elsewhere.

I'm not planning on booking any of the routings shared by others or even (exactly) my pricing experiment routes. I'm finding them useful to see them priced though and hope people keep sharing.

No first flight either
 

Yes, I had trouble with my first flight too. Sometimes no flight, sometimes no business class.

After reading through most? of this thread. I think I want to use QR for some flights.

For example, OSL DFW. To use the OneWorld RTW too,l how do you get routing through DOH??

Agree that I like to play with the tool, then call AA RTW desk when I only have a couple of options to price.

I am in the middle of one RTW but playing with the tool see what I might want to do at the end of this one in OSL.

You don't. The tool does not allow the first segment to be on QR.

I think flyhurl's itinerary is ending in OSL and they are already partially though it.

You have to force it most of the time, so you'd put in DFW-DOH and DOH-OSL separately but have your departure date the same date as arrival (or less than 24 hours), that usually works in the OW tool.

It tends to throw errors before ticketing if you do that with certain airlines, but many of them will work, and you should at least be able to get availability that way if nothing else. But QR most definitely goes by married segment logic, and in the tool that will break a married segment. If there is no availability on the married segment then you still can't book it, you need Expertflyer to check that. (Enter DFW-OSL, with connection in DOH), you need D on that, it doesn't matter if DFW-DOH and DOH-OSL have it separately. If there's no married segment availability then you need over 24 hours in DOH to break it.

Yes. I do have a current RTW ticket that I just changed the last leg (to be taken in March) to be HKG DOH OSL.

But now I am looking at starting new RTW ticket next fall and may want OSL DOH DFW as the first leg. So all the answers have been helpful. If I don't force routing, the Oneworld tool still throws out no business class available on the first flight if it is OSL DFW but is ok if the first flight is HEL DFW or OSL LON. But with the information provided, I have been able to work around enough for my research.

Thanks.

TYO Price increase
 

It may have been mentioned elsewhere , but it appears there has been a fairly large price increase for TYO RTW effective 10/1/2024 . DONE4 780400 JPY TO 936500 JPY

Bummer :td:
According to EF, BA and CX are yet to update their fares - so if you are quick...

ETA
Quick check in EF, prices ex-Norway are unchanged :tu:

ETA
To be fair, these fares had been unchanged since at least March 2012
(the rule sheet for that month included the base fares for all countries - I kept a copy)

Was comparing OSL to TYO and saw the TYO increase. I had not checked OSL for a while , so it is good to know they are unchanged.

Does anyone have a phone number to book with BA?

ETA: So ex-Japan, EF now showing USD 5,429.14 base fare for a DONE3 ticketed by AA. Still pretty much a bargain for what you get. Just checked, and my itineraries run around USD 700-750 in taxes and fees. So a total of a little under $6,200. That's at the low end of what I would have to pay for BKK-BOS roundtrip in business, so no complaints here. I just priced out a BKK-BOS roundtrip for the dates I want for my next trip, and it's USD 7,843 on QR. So I'll still buy the DONE3 tickets, -- even at the new price it's still a bargain for me, plus the extra stops I get to make are essentially free.

Ok, that makes sense then, the OW tool doesn't allow QR to be the first carrier. You have to book that with AA or another carrier directly, not in the OW tool.

I suspect that's more to do with the long term weakening of the Yen than anything else. The J-gov has had plenty of opportunities to reverse course but doesn't want to and the new PM just appointed sent it back the wrong direction again making public statements that he doesn't want BOJ to raise rates again this year. The Yen carry trade is very profitable at the moment and keeps the Yen suppressed, but all it would take is a couple more rate increases from the BOJ and a couple more decreases by the US Fed to squeeze the carry traders out and put the Yen back to normal levels, but of course these fares won't return to their old prices once that finally happens making the USD price far less competitive once the rate comes back down.

I'm not too excited about having to position to OSL for my next one, but we'll see where things stand at the time. It seems the ex-Japan price increase is about $1000 at current rates, which still may be ok considering the lack of YQ. I know it's not everyone's cup of tea but ex-Pakistan is also quite competitive, I've seen one or two people talk about using that one (believe on a UL booking). ex-CMB appears to be decent too if you can't position to Europe cheaply.

From what I saw on Expertflyer, the base fare for DONE3 ex-Tokyo is 4563USD through AA.

Screenshot just now.

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Yeah, since my current one ends in November at NRT, repositioning to OSL would not be my first choice, either. OSL is at USD 4956.67 according to EF, and CMB is USD 5372.00 for an IONE3. I use CMB as the western end of my intra-Asian MRs, so I'd have to completely rejig that part of my itineraries (because I would be limited by the one international arrival and one international departure rule).

KHI is cheap enough, listed in EF at USD 4591 for an IONE3. I have a friend here (Thailand) who is from Pakistan, his family still lives there. In the past, he has said that he would not want me to go to KHI even for a transit because it can get really crazy at the airport. He carries a hangun whenever he's in-country, and hired two armed guards for his Thai girlfriend when she visited earlier this year. Just sent him an email to see what his current assessment is.