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link2 Apr 20, 2026 4:27 am


Originally Posted by MoodLighting (Post 37712999)
Not just on TAs. I booked my last ticket direct with BA and it wasn't easy securing AY, QR & JL code shares. Interestingly, the challenge was from the operating carrier. In this case, CX. The booking agent I was working with did have to go back via the OW help desk and ultimately common sense, as well as the fare rules, worked in my favour.

Out of curiosity, why did CX object to the codeshares? (or what was the stated reason - we all know it's for revenue reasons)

LilZeppelin Apr 20, 2026 4:20 pm

Inconsistent agent behavior doesn’t redefine fare rules—if “ONLINE” were an adjacency requirement, those itineraries wouldn’t price at all, regardless of what any desk does after ticketing.

MoodLighting Apr 21, 2026 10:36 am


Originally Posted by link2 (Post 37713022)
Out of curiosity, why did CX object to the codeshares? (or what was the stated reason - we all know it's for revenue reasons)

It incorrectly stated that only its prime flight numbers may be used.

link2 Apr 21, 2026 12:42 pm


Originally Posted by MoodLighting (Post 37715179)
It incorrectly stated that only its prime flight numbers may be used.

Interesting, I'm surprised BA even involved CX into the booking process in the first place! Was it because the CX operated flight wouldn't confirm at first and then BA had to reach out to CX for help?

c1mth0g Apr 21, 2026 3:04 pm


Originally Posted by link2 (Post 37715403)
Interesting, I'm surprised BA even involved CX into the booking process in the first place! Was it because the CX operated flight wouldn't confirm at first and then BA had to reach out to CX for help?

I've had that happen before (when changing a CX segment on a RTW ticketed by BA) - BA couldn't see availability on CX but the agent was actually aware that reaching out to CX was a possibility (either that or I told him I could see CX availability).

donotblink Apr 21, 2026 9:12 pm

I've had significant problems getting American Airlines to get me on Cathy Pacific flights that have A/D/L inventory available, as seen in ExpertFlyer, but my understanding is I might have a point of origin issue. Maybe I have an incorrect understanding, and it is some sort of system, limitation either intentional or unintentional with Cathy Pacific.

anabolism Apr 21, 2026 10:26 pm


Originally Posted by donotblink (Post 37716069)
I've had significant problems getting American Airlines to get me on Cathy Pacific flights that have A/D/L inventory available, as seen in ExpertFlyer, but my understanding is I might have a point of origin issue. Maybe I have an incorrect understanding, and it is some sort of system, limitation either intentional or unintentional with Cathy Pacific.

Where does your RTW originate?

donotblink Apr 21, 2026 10:42 pm


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 37716130)
Where does your RTW originate?

I currently have one active one that originated in Seoul, South Korea, and I have another one that originated in Tokyo, Japan.

anabolism Apr 21, 2026 10:51 pm


Originally Posted by donotblink (Post 37716142)
I currently have one active one that originated in Seoul, South Korea, and I have another one that originated in Tokyo, Japan.

Seems odd that CX would put point of origin restrictions for major Asian cities. AA agents have told me there's a type of fare restrion, although travel agents have said there is no such mechanism. But this suggests there might be more to it.

donotblink Apr 21, 2026 11:17 pm


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 37716149)
Seems odd that CX would put point of origin restrictions for major Asian cities. AA agents have told me there's a type of fare restrion, although travel agents have said there is no such mechanism. But this suggests there might be more to it.

In fairness, American Airlines didn't tell me that there was a point of origin restriction that was an inference that I drew from other posts that I believe were within this thread or other posts on the oneworld flyer, talk page. Either way, there were several instances where I was seeing inventory on expert flyer that American Airlines around the world desk told me they could not see.

MoodLighting Apr 21, 2026 11:55 pm


Originally Posted by link2 (Post 37715403)
Interesting, I'm surprised BA even involved CX into the booking process in the first place! Was it because the CX operated flight wouldn't confirm at first and then BA had to reach out to CX for help?

No. In the case of one of the AY-marketed segments it was a message which came through from AY asking for it to be re-booked under the CX prime flight number.

dutch_122 Apr 23, 2026 9:33 am

Need some experts view on this.

QR says valid routing BUT,Only one nonstop or single plane service transcontinental flight permitted. A transcontinental flight is defined as travel between a state in column A and a state in column B.

They are referring to the flights from BNA via DFW to LAX are not allowed or the direct flight from BNA to LAX, have tried lots of alternatives but no luck.
COLUMN A

Arizona, AZ
California, CA
Nevada, NV
Oregon, OR
Washington, WA


COLUMN B

Connecticut, CT
Florida, FL
Georgia, GA
Indiana, IN
Maryland, MD
Massachusetts, MA
New Jersey, NJ
New York, NY
North Carolina, NC
Ohio, OH
Pennsylvania, PA
Michigan, MI
South Carolina, SC
Tennessee, TN\
irginia, VA
Kentucky, KY



1 HND JL 004 D 02MAY 1930 OK
2 X JFK AA 2995 D 03MAY 0930 OK
3 O MEX AA 828 D 09MAY 1235 OK
4 X CLT AA 526 D 09MAY 2059 OK
5 O BNA AA 1866 D 14MAY 0955 OK
6 X DFW AA 3334 D 14MAY 1258 OK

7 O LAX AA 004 D 16MAY 1535 OK
8 X JFK QR 706 D 17MAY 0120 OK
9 X DOH QR 137 D 18MAY 0100 OK
10 O BCN RJ 108 D 02AUG 1635 OK
11 O AMM RJ 109 D 09AUG 1100 OK
12 O MAD QR 150 D 08OCT 1545 OK
13 X DOH QR 956 D 09OCT 0255 OK
14 X CGK CX 798 D 10OCT 0005 OK
15 O HKG CX 623 D 27OCT 2040 OK
16 O BLR JL 754 D 03NOV 0245 OK

Appreciate the help.

regards

dutch_122

PHLGovFlyer Apr 23, 2026 10:17 am


Originally Posted by dutch_122 (Post 37718840)
Need some experts view on this.

QR says valid routing BUT,Only one nonstop or single plane service transcontinental flight permitted. A transcontinental flight is defined as travel between a state in column A and a state in column B.

They are referring to the flights from BNA via DFW to LAX are not allowed or the direct flight from BNA to LAX, have tried lots of alternatives but no luck.

If you try to book both the BNA-LAX non-stop flight and the LAX-JFK flight in the same xONEx it would not be allowed because it would be more than one "transcontinental" flight. However, BNA-DFW-LAX does not count as a transcon flight unless both legs are booked under one flight number (which I don't think AA offers on that route). So you should be able to book exactly what you have listed, so long as the flight numbers for BNA-DFW and DFW-LAX are different (which they are...).

dutch_122 Apr 23, 2026 10:31 am


Originally Posted by PHLGovFlyer (Post 37718944)
If you try to book both the BNA-LAX non-stop flight and the LAX-JFK flight in the same xONEx it would not be allowed because it would be more than one "transcontinental" flight. However, BNA-DFW-LAX does not count as a transcon flight unless both legs are booked under one flight number (which I don't think AA offers on that route). So you should be able to book exactly what you have listed, so long as the flight numbers for BNA-DFW and DFW-LAX are different (which they are...).


Thanks, that's how i also see it and read it.

But Amadeus & QR don't like this.

Appreciate your input.

dutch_122 Apr 23, 2026 12:03 pm

Update also rejected by AA RTW Helpdesk,

Exact words routing is too extreme.. you cannot transfer via JFK to Mexico and then transfer again via BNA to LAX via DFW & JFK via DOH to BCN.


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