You've clearly demonstrated that you're not using these as status runs, but many other people are, at least to some extent with some "wasteful" segments thrown in for fun.

There are many viable ways to credit to AAdvantage on these while still minimizing segments that credit as "revenue" vs. distance. I'm happy to help other FT'ers with that and don't see why it's so offensive to you. You can definitely have your cake and eat it too on these while crediting to AAdvantage if you're careful how you ticket it.

My latest RTW ex-CAI was around $4500 and includes a simple trip that I needed to take anyway that would have been $6000 to buy standalone. Plus I got 12x other unnecessary flights on it that all earn great multipliers. I'm not hurt about that and don't feel guilty since I was able to weave in CAI to my other ongoing ex-TYO RTW (well in fairness changed to a stopover in DOH and got a cheap-ish ticket to CAI for this). Most of the unnecessary segments though intentionally engineered to "milk" AAdvantage as much as I can.

I never claimed to be offended - let�s avoid personal attacks please. I merely pointed out the tickets are a great value on their own so someone shouldn�t be too upset if they also can�t maximize the FF game on them as well.

I get that, but AAdvantage is a particularly quirky one on these tickets, so people asking how to maximize it and others helping maximize it shouldn't be constantly flagged.

You have a very valid point, but despite our mutually perceived great value on these tickets, it's not everyone's goal to just enjoy the ride for whatever it's worth. A lot of people in this particular forum want OWE from zero on these tickets and it's very possible to achieve if played smart. (Not with AAdvantage though, at least not on a single ticket with no existing AA status. AS, AY, and QR are possible to go Zero to Hero, I think BA too but definitely wouldn't attempt that on an ex-CAI or ex-OSL due to YQ, not sure about IB, seems Platino is quite a stretch from their mid tier)

I think for a thread about booking and pricing experiences we are spending an awful lot of time in this thread on the intricacies of particular frequent flyer programs and not on the actual booking and pricing issues that people experience (and need help with) with these tickets.

Just saying.

While not untrue, it's also the place where many people feel naturally inclined to inquire since they're booking these tickets and unsure about how to credit them after. Instead of sending them to all of the separate FFP forums as some posters constantly suggest, perhaps we have a thread within this forum for it, that is more intuitive? I don't feel it's the Deciding on a OW FFP thread, that's a different purpose most of the time, typically for far more casual flyers and I actually recall a recent case of someone looking to maximize earnings on a RTW in that thread getting chased out and told to use one of the RTW threads.

These tickets can turn Zero to Hero in one single ticket if played right and RTW 'newbies' rightfully ask how to do it and where to credit. There currently isn't one unified great place to ask that! Since this is the last place most people seek advice on how to book, etc., it's likely the same place they'll seek such advice.

So here's vote number 1 for the "Where to credit to maximize earnings / status on your RTW ticket (Zero to Hero)" thread that is pinned with a sticky. I'll bet it sees as much if not more traffic as the rest of the pinned sticky threads. I'd suspect those of us already more entrenched in our respective FFPs know how to maximize accordingly already but we see tons of new or soon to be minted OW elites in this forum because of the benefits of these fares and no dedicated place to post the question, only to be chased into less relevant threads to solve their issue / mission.

Anyone can start a thread. If you see a need for a particular thread then go ahead and start it. Most of the current sticky threads started as normal threads and then became sticky threads after showing that they were beneficial to the forum and its users -- they didn't start as sticky threads. If the thread proves helpful, useful, popular, and isn't duplicative of other forums it will surely stay on the first page for some time and then maybe the moderator may be inclined to make it a sticky.

DONE4 ticketed by CX (booked with online tool), any guesses as to how AA segments will credit to BA?

Flights credit to the frequent flyer number in the reservation for that segment. In Oneworld the marketing flight determines the ff earning, if an eligible operating flight.
Is possible to have different ffn's for each segment, but when changing can be sometimes hard to get the ffn to stick.

Doesn't have to be AA metal. AA codeshare on someone else's metal will count and satisfy the requirement.


I agree. I actively like the long haul J hard product. I typically take my own food, as I find AA's often inedible. Cabin crew occasionally can be good, but are just as often surly. I happily fly AA J TPAC ex-NRT when I'm flying TPAC. IMO the hard product is much better than JL's.

So we�ve set the bar as �often inedible�� food, �occasionally good� cabin crew, and �perfectly acceptable� hard product. Personally I aim a bit higher than that when spending thousands of dollars, but if it works for you that�s great. I suggest we get back to discussing the actually fare rules?

Yes, my question is whether if I credit (marketed) AA segments to BA Exec Club, I'll get credit as multiplier of fare (nearly zero) or based on distance and class multiplier (a lot). I guess this boils down to whether BA is able to figure out how much AA is paid for each segment. In case it makes any difference, the AA segments are domestic and to/from EZE.

A question for the BA forum. Best to ask in that forum.
Much harder with revenue based ffp's to determine what the earnings will be.

Another data point for pricing a DONE4 ex-JPN. Nothing groundbreaking but more data is always helpful, I think.
Please, no unnecessary comments about how this didn't maximize segments or mileage or time in Q-suites. That was not the goal.

HND-DFW-RNO / RNO-DFW-BOS / BOS-PHX-RNO / RNO-PHX-LHR / FCO-DOH-SYD / SYD-SIN / SIN-HND

$516.70 taxes + $397 in "carrier-imposed fees" + $4976 base. AA priced it rather quickly, about 5 hrs later.

Pretty solid, under $6k thanks to the weak yen. Also another good data point for the multiple questions we get about ex-Japan having no YQ (or VERY little YQ). I'm guessing your ticket shows most if not all of that $397 as YR?

The problem with that logic is that of course I can start a thread, you can start it.... but if it's not a Sticky from the beginning the it will get buried just long enough that the same questions will end up here, which annoys some entrenched members.

This topic comes up at least weekly and the posters and respondents are often chastised for asking the question here,so a dedicated sticky thread seems very justified.

I don't think sending everyone to the respective FFP forum is the right answer since often people are weighing options. Nor is the general Deciding on a OW Program thread since these are unique and quirky fares that don't always follow general rules. (and "certain" members tend to chase such queries our of that thread)

Anyway until there's a better Sticky thread available, I'll continue helping other FT'ers on these topics wherever they happen to ask them. If that's continuously offensive then create a better Sticky thread place to put the queries.

The one good thing is that the OW forum doesn't tend to be so heavily handed moderated, so things can be worked out vs. certain other forum moderators. But since so many other frequent posters here seem so offended by FFP discussion in this thread, then another dedicated to xONEx FFP credit needs created with a similar sticky. Otherwise it's still going to end up here, and offending you'all thread purists.

Alternatively we could just have a general xONEx thread for convo that doesn't fit into the other threads, but I reckon a lot of what should be put into the dedicated threads would end up there. I do reckon the purists aren't going to find a perfect balance here without a xONEx Sticky thread for FFP discussion.

BTW, my most recent DONE5's were $4700 ex-CAI and about $6500 ex-TYO just to "stay on topic"