Oneworld booking and pricing experiences
#2222




Join Date: Jun 2024
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A quick data point from my side, for my RTW ex-CAI ticket (business class).
1. It's prior to my first flight's departure, and I only wanted to make a date change of my last segments. So I contacted QF by telephone.
2. According to QF's agent, even if it's a date change only, it will trigger a repricing (but likely no price difference as long as they can find a ticket in the same fare group) AND reissue. So it took QF an hour to do this (the agent had to ask another department to do this because they have a better IT system). And the original RTW ticket No. changed to a new one. -->Honestly speaking, I don't quite understand why QF has to reissue in this event. Any one can chime in?
One question:
Is it possible to ask other carriers, e.g. CX or BA to take over this RTW ticket for changes? QF is terrible.
1. It's prior to my first flight's departure, and I only wanted to make a date change of my last segments. So I contacted QF by telephone.
2. According to QF's agent, even if it's a date change only, it will trigger a repricing (but likely no price difference as long as they can find a ticket in the same fare group) AND reissue. So it took QF an hour to do this (the agent had to ask another department to do this because they have a better IT system). And the original RTW ticket No. changed to a new one. -->Honestly speaking, I don't quite understand why QF has to reissue in this event. Any one can chime in?
One question:
Is it possible to ask other carriers, e.g. CX or BA to take over this RTW ticket for changes? QF is terrible.
#2223
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1. It's prior to my first flight's departure, and I only wanted to make a date change of my last segments. So I contacted QF by telephone.
2. According to QF's agent, even if it's a date change only, it will trigger a repricing (but likely no price difference as long as they can find a ticket in the same fare group) AND reissue.
2. According to QF's agent, even if it's a date change only, it will trigger a repricing (but likely no price difference as long as they can find a ticket in the same fare group) AND reissue.
Yes. Whenever a ticket is reissued, it's a new ticket with a new number.
Last edited by Dr. HFH; Jun 13, 2024 at 9:22 pm
#2225

Join Date: Nov 2023
Posts: 204
A quick data point from my side, for my RTW ex-CAI ticket (business class).
1. It's prior to my first flight's departure, and I only wanted to make a date change of my last segments. So I contacted QF by telephone.
2. According to QF's agent, even if it's a date change only, it will trigger a repricing (but likely no price difference as long as they can find a ticket in the same fare group) AND reissue. So it took QF an hour to do this (the agent had to ask another department to do this because they have a better IT system). And the original RTW ticket No. changed to a new one. -->Honestly speaking, I don't quite understand why QF has to reissue in this event. Any one can chime in?
One question:
Is it possible to ask other carriers, e.g. CX or BA to take over this RTW ticket for changes? QF is terrible.
1. It's prior to my first flight's departure, and I only wanted to make a date change of my last segments. So I contacted QF by telephone.
2. According to QF's agent, even if it's a date change only, it will trigger a repricing (but likely no price difference as long as they can find a ticket in the same fare group) AND reissue. So it took QF an hour to do this (the agent had to ask another department to do this because they have a better IT system). And the original RTW ticket No. changed to a new one. -->Honestly speaking, I don't quite understand why QF has to reissue in this event. Any one can chime in?
One question:
Is it possible to ask other carriers, e.g. CX or BA to take over this RTW ticket for changes? QF is terrible.
#2227
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Of course. It's always possible to ask. And even if the collective wisdom here is that no other carrier will take over the ticket, do you have anything to lose by asking?
#2228

Join Date: Nov 2023
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Called them on the premier line, he is very polite, said will look into it. But he doesnt sound confident though.
#2229




Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: country Western Australia
Programs: QF WP(LTS) - AA LTG(1MM)
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The last time (2017) I finished a ex CAI (QR issue) DONEx and restarted with a LONEx(also QR issue) flying the first 3 segments. Early in 2018 I converted this to a DONEx paying only the difference in the fares as of the time of the purchase/issue of the LONEx.
Both were handled by a travel agent in Perth.
Sometimes a competent TA is useful when wandering
Fred
Both were handled by a travel agent in Perth.
Sometimes a competent TA is useful when wandering
Fred
#2230


Join Date: Apr 2007
Programs: QF, AC, Hyatt, Hilton
Posts: 4,238
I would push back on this. The "system" is not your issue to fix. The fare rules permit what you're trying to do. Unless I'm mistaken 'Computer says no' is not in the fare rules.
#2231
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True, and no harm in pushing back, but at the end of the day, if they won't do it there's not much you can do, especially if their systems are incapable.
#2232


Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: New York, NY
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#2233




Join Date: Jun 2024
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What I mean by re-issue is to cancel the old ticket and issue a new one with a different ticket No. That's what happened to me with QF for my date change of one segment (not the first) before I make my first segment flight, which is quite odd to me. So I wonder if I already flew my first segment, how the airline will handle this when I make a date change of some remaining segments.
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The original ticket will be exchanged for a new ticket with a new ticket number. I just did this with the AA RTW desk, on a sixteen flight itinerary with fourteen already flown.
#2235




Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: land of aahhhhs (ICT)
Programs: EXP LTPlat 2MM
Posts: 530
Could the problem with changing/re-ticketing the Cairo originating fare be with the fact the fare is no longer offered? Now, I am only speculating, but I am unable to find a CAI-CAI explorer fare on Expert Flyer on the six or several airlines I plugged in, including Royal Air Maroc, Royal Jordanian, Qatar (surprise!), etc. While searching for the answer to this question, I did stumble upon the thread re Star Alliance RTW from CAI--and how great their booking tool is compared to oneworld. Has anyone been able to purchase a Cairo fare lately?



