Oneworld booking and pricing experiences
#1861



Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: YYZish
Programs: Bonvoy LTP/Titanium, IHG Diamond Ambassador, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 465
I’m pleasantly surprised I did not miss out on this despite dragging my feet on it. Finally called in an imperfect itinerary yesterday morning. Made a change this morning. And just paid. Knock on wood I did not just jinx it.
Many thanks to FT community for the inspiration and all the know how.
Many thanks to FT community for the inspiration and all the know how.
#1862


Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 2,056
Booking with American is easier because they have a dedicated unit with just under 20 agents in Dallas and the make sure your itinerary meets all the rules to any product whether DONE4 or DGLOB34, then they send it to pricing. After several hours you are able to retrieve the quote online (click "pricing summary") and call the same dedicated phone number to ticket. Note that for ticketing you can also apply any trip credits you have on American in addition to your credit card. Changing the ticket should be easier with AA as the point of contact would be the dedicated team.
So to summarize, these base fares have been creeping up over the last weeks (DGLOB34 is 2976$ today, up from 2944$ yesterday) but they are very much available.
#1863




Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: anywhere and everywhere
Programs: United Nations 193, UA GS, AS MVP 100K, DL Diamond, Marriot Lifetime Titanium, AmEx Centurion
Posts: 6,359
That's almost certainly due to the EGP exchange rate, which has been modestly strengthening against the USD since the initial devaluation
#1864
FlyerTalk Evangelist


Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 10,619
I’m pleasantly surprised I did not miss out on this despite dragging my feet on it. Finally called in an imperfect itinerary yesterday morning. Made a change this morning. And just paid. Knock on wood I did not just jinx it.
Many thanks to FT community for the inspiration and all the know how.
Many thanks to FT community for the inspiration and all the know how.
Do you mind sharing your final itinerary that you booked? (city codes and airlines, pls!) I think that it's good to have a collection of what is acceptable from a ticketing perspective.
#1865


Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 2,056
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Last edited by LilZeppelin; Mar 20, 2024 at 9:16 am Reason: adding screenshot
#1866




Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: anywhere and everywhere
Programs: United Nations 193, UA GS, AS MVP 100K, DL Diamond, Marriot Lifetime Titanium, AmEx Centurion
Posts: 6,359
#1867



Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere
Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD
Posts: 3,687
Simply choose that currency from the picklist of currencies (down toward the bottom of the screen)
Note that doing this is getting EF to convert the published fare into EGP, presumably at the current IATA exchange rate.
If you want to see the currency in which a particular fare is quoted, you need to click on the routing for the fare (!)
#1868




Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NRT / HND
Programs: AA EXP, A3 Gold, Former UA 1K
Posts: 6,365
CAI-xDOH-CGK (QR)
CGK-NRT (JL)
HND-BKK (JL)
BKK-xHND-xJFK-GRU (All JL code, AA operated on JFK-GRU)
GRU-xDFW-STL (JL code GRU-DFW, AA)
STL-xSEA-DOH (AS, QR)
DOH-NBO (QR)
NBO-xDOH-CAI (QR)
Ended up being
DONE5 Base fare: EGP 145000.00 / AUD 4680.00
Total paid AUD 7,269.00 / US$ 4,738 (not including the $125 change of ticketed points fee)
Maybe I could have done better on YQ with different carriers, but all in all, it's a good deal since I'm crediting to AAdvantage, and all of the those QR and JL segments have a 150% cabin bonus. But TBH I'm not sure I could have done much better on YQ, when I played around with replacing some flights with MH the YQ went up a good bit (like AUD100-300), I don't think changing JL to AA makes a difference, maybe AA trans Atlantic would save a bit but that doesn't interest me, so I'm happy with this price.
Last edited by dvs7310; Mar 20, 2024 at 3:59 am
#1869


Join Date: Apr 2007
Programs: QF, AC, Hyatt, Hilton
Posts: 4,242
Thought I'd re-share mine as well since I made some changes today, this is likely the final itinerary that I'll actually fly with some date changes later on the final DOH-NBO & DOH-NBO-CAI.
CAI-xDOH-CGK (QR)
CGK-NRT (JL)
HND-BKK (JL)
BKK-xHND-xJFK-GRU (All JL code, AA operated on JFK-GRU)
GRU-xDFW-STL (JL code GRU-DFW, AA)
STL-xSEA-DOH (AS, QR)
DOH-NBO (QR)
NBO-xDOH-CAI (QR)
Ended up being
DONE5 Base fare: EGP 145000.00 / AUD 4680.00
Total paid AUD 7,269.00 / US$ 4,738 (not including the $125 change of ticketed points fee)
Maybe I could have done better on YQ with different carriers, but all in all, it's a good deal since I'm crediting to AAdvantage, and all of the those QR and JL segments have a 150% cabin bonus. But TBH I'm not sure I could have done much better on YQ, when I played around with replacing some flights with MH the YQ went up a good bit (like AUD100-300), I don't think changing JL to AA makes a difference, maybe AA trans Atlantic would save a bit but that doesn't interest me, so I'm happy with this price.
CAI-xDOH-CGK (QR)
CGK-NRT (JL)
HND-BKK (JL)
BKK-xHND-xJFK-GRU (All JL code, AA operated on JFK-GRU)
GRU-xDFW-STL (JL code GRU-DFW, AA)
STL-xSEA-DOH (AS, QR)
DOH-NBO (QR)
NBO-xDOH-CAI (QR)
Ended up being
DONE5 Base fare: EGP 145000.00 / AUD 4680.00
Total paid AUD 7,269.00 / US$ 4,738 (not including the $125 change of ticketed points fee)
Maybe I could have done better on YQ with different carriers, but all in all, it's a good deal since I'm crediting to AAdvantage, and all of the those QR and JL segments have a 150% cabin bonus. But TBH I'm not sure I could have done much better on YQ, when I played around with replacing some flights with MH the YQ went up a good bit (like AUD100-300), I don't think changing JL to AA makes a difference, maybe AA trans Atlantic would save a bit but that doesn't interest me, so I'm happy with this price.
#1871




Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NRT / HND
Programs: AA EXP, A3 Gold, Former UA 1K
Posts: 6,365
My understanding is that alone isn't a ticketed points change and would fall under the same exemption as a date / time change. But I have always done them during other changes so not 100% sure on that. The last time I did it was on my CX ticket, but I was able to do it before ticketing since CX doesn't accept payment in the OW tool, you still have to call in for a payment link. Prior to that was another QF ticket and I had an invol reschedule so got free changes together with that.
This is one of the most frustrating things about RTWs and crediting to programs that calculate by revenue... you have to scratch and dig to put everything possible on codeshares that credit by distance. I've had AAdvantage go both ways on AA coded flights so just won't risk it on long segments. JL used to have a few codeshares to South America in the past, I know I've flown to GIG on one right before COVID started but looks like GRU is the only one remaining. I definitely wouldn't have gone to Brazil if I knew I could get distance credit on AA codes, would much much rather have gone to Argentina... but c'est la vie (I'm quite put off by Brazil's return to visas for US, Canada and Australia citizens, but my old 10 year visa is still valid until October). Haven't been to Florianopolis yet so that's an option at least.
Last edited by dvs7310; Mar 20, 2024 at 8:46 am
#1872
FlyerTalk Evangelist


Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 10,619
This is one of the most frustrating things about RTWs and crediting to programs that calculate by revenue... you have to scratch and dig to put everything possible on codeshares that credit by distance. I've had AAdvantage go both ways on AA coded flights so just won't risk it on long segments. JL used to have a few codeshares to South America in the past, I know I've flown to GIG on one right before COVID started but looks like GRU is the only one remaining. I definitely wouldn't have gone to Brazil if I knew I could get distance credit on AA codes, would much much rather have gone to Argentina... but c'est la vie (I'm quite put off by Brazil's return to visas for US, Canada and Australia citizens, but my old 10 year visa is still valid until October). Haven't been to Florianopolis yet so that's an option at least.
Also agree re: revenue-based mileage programs -- that in itself is a separate discussion but I am fairly certain that there will always be Oneworld programs that cannot afford to go revenue-based, due to regional competition.
#1873


Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 2,056
Erm... Yes they are available in EGP
Simply choose that currency from the picklist of currencies (down toward the bottom of the screen)
Note that doing this is getting EF to convert the published fare into EGP, presumably at the current IATA exchange rate.
If you want to see the currency in which a particular fare is quoted, you need to click on the routing for the fare (!)
Simply choose that currency from the picklist of currencies (down toward the bottom of the screen)
Note that doing this is getting EF to convert the published fare into EGP, presumably at the current IATA exchange rate.
If you want to see the currency in which a particular fare is quoted, you need to click on the routing for the fare (!)
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#1874




Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NRT / HND
Programs: AA EXP, A3 Gold, Former UA 1K
Posts: 6,365
It's funny you mention this -- GRU is the only city in South America (I believe) that JL has codeshares for on AA metal. I ticketed a DONE4 and wanted the JL code (mainly because I'm crediting to JMB) but then I would have to go to Brazil instead of Argentina (which is where I wanted to visit). I'm guessing it's because JAL used to operate a 5th freedom route here, but that was dropped a long time ago.
Also agree re: revenue-based mileage programs -- that in itself is a separate discussion but I am fairly certain that there will always be Oneworld programs that cannot afford to go revenue-based, due to regional competition.
Also agree re: revenue-based mileage programs -- that in itself is a separate discussion but I am fairly certain that there will always be Oneworld programs that cannot afford to go revenue-based, due to regional competition.
The 5th freedom route was because of the large Japanese Brazilian population in Sao Paulo, but I know I've flown to GIG on a JL code in very early March 2020 before the world shut down, and I'd swear I saw JL codes at the time to LIM and EZE as well. (Peru and Ecuador also have a good bit of Japanese / Latin population though I don't think I ever checked for GYE / QIO on JL codes)... I could be wrong about EZE and maybe that's why I went to GIG that time but definitely I've seen them for LIM in the past. In both instances though I was going for the longest distance flown on a JL code so had to choose Brazil, Peru is too short of a flight in comparison and Ecuador even shorter.







