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#3751
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: HKG
Programs: Marriott Ambassador (Titanium Lifetime), BA GfL, EK Gold, HH Diamond, Ex-BD*G
Posts: 3,754
The Oneworld explorer user guide even says what I want to do is permitted (my bolding and underline)?
Originally Posted by https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/oneworld/2008084-oneworld-explorer-user-guide.html
Because of the requirement in Rule 4(b) (Travel must be in a continuous forward direction between TC1 ‐ TC2 ‐ TC3), the only way to have a second visit (i.e. a second intercontinental departure and a second intercontinental arrival) to a continent is to travel down to its southern hemisphere neighbour and then return
You can stopover in the northern continent both before and after you travel south
For North America and Asia there are no additional rules
You can stopover in the northern continent both before and after you travel south
For North America and Asia there are no additional rules
My ambition is fairly simple: Start my trip; Have a first holiday in Australia; take a stopover in HKG and then continue a second trip that circles the world. AA seems to be enforcing that this is a transfer. I did manage to achieve something similar once but I did HNL-Oceania-Asia, which I guess AA were ok with
Is this a matter of trying to use a travel agent or they'd have the same problems, I've previously been happy with AA, but seems they have this new/specific/for them rule, or will everyone enforce it?
Are there any creative suggestions on how to address this. I've considered:
- I could get a return from Fiji (NAN) to HKG, but that's 50% of the cost of a ex-HND RTW ticket.
- I didn't really see many other cheap locations to get to HKG as a return from Oceania
- I have a current few other RTW tickets that are part way through flown, I could drop the last segments of an ex-HND to start a new ex-OSL trip (that one is nearly expired) and then do this, if its the ex-Asia that causes the problem (A shame to miss out on an A351 with JAL). I.e. they don't enforce that rule on an ex-OSL/Europe ticket?
- The Circle Asia ticket I saw above was a bit aggressive for a week away (as at a minimum rather than coming back via "Australia->HKG becomes Australia->HNL-Japan", and isn't that much cheaper than a DONE3
- Potentially I guess I could do "PER-DOH", and then pick up a return flight from there/DXB to HKG, but again, that's about 40% of the price of the RTW ticket.
Last edited by littlevoices; Today at 7:39 am
Today | 10:34 am
#3752
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Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 10,652
The problem with yours is that you are originating in Asia. As a general rule, you can't visit (meaning stopover) your originating continent until you finish your RTW ticket.
The northern / southern language you quoted is generally not intended for originating continent.
As I mentioned earlier, ex-EU/OSL would be better if you wanted to maximize HKG stopovers. Yes, it means positioning once. Not a big ask.
So, originate in EU, fly to Australia, go back home to HKG, then continue the ticket later.
The northern / southern language you quoted is generally not intended for originating continent.
As I mentioned earlier, ex-EU/OSL would be better if you wanted to maximize HKG stopovers. Yes, it means positioning once. Not a big ask.
So, originate in EU, fly to Australia, go back home to HKG, then continue the ticket later.
