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#3691



Join Date: Dec 2024
Programs: BA Gold, SAS EBD
Posts: 293
#3693




Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: DCA, EGE, IAD
Programs: MR LTT, BA Gold, AA LTP, UA Silver
Posts: 6,094
OSL-DOH-MEL
MEL-NRT-DEL
DEL-KUL
KUL-SGN
Book separate SGN-CGK
CGK-NRT
HND-JFK
JFK-SFO
SFO-DOH-OSL
#3694
FlyerTalk Evangelist


Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: MEL CHC
Posts: 22,933
Hi folks, I'd welcome some advice on a DONE4 that I'm planning for next year with the aim of visiting Melbourne, Delhi, KL, Ho Chi Minh City, Jakarta, NYC and San Francisco - especially confirmation on whether the itinerary will be valid under DONE4 rules.
The planned routing is:
OSL-DOH-MEL
MEL-NRT-DEL
DEL-NRT-KUL
KUL-NRT-SGN
SGN-NRT-CGK
CGK-NRT
HND-JFK
JFK-SFO
SFO-DOH-OSL
Is this a valid itinerary under DONE4 rules, or am I being to ambitious in what I can achieve with it?
The planned routing is:
OSL-DOH-MEL
MEL-NRT-DEL
DEL-NRT-KUL
KUL-NRT-SGN
SGN-NRT-CGK
CGK-NRT
HND-JFK
JFK-SFO
SFO-DOH-OSL
Is this a valid itinerary under DONE4 rules, or am I being to ambitious in what I can achieve with it?
Have you downloaded the rules?
FAQ "What are the RTW rules" in OW
https://www.oneworld.com/round-the-world
#3695


Join Date: Nov 2024
Posts: 415
No, as previously stated you are only allowed 4 flight segments in each continent (6 in North America). The following would work. Routing via KUL from MEL to DEL is also more convenient IMO, but I'm guessing your routing via NRT because you are wanting a mileage run. Add a trip to Alaska in North America if you're going for a mileage run. The following is 13 segments (11 flight segments and 2 open jaws), so you have 3 segments remaining. So if you are looking for a mileage run, then AS flies ANC to/from LAX four days a week; you could do JFK-LAX-ANC, ANC-LAX-SFO instead of JFK-SFO, or SEA instead of LAX as AS flies ANC to/from SEA daily.
OSL-DOH-MEL
MEL-NRT-DEL
DEL-KUL
KUL-SGN
Book separate SGN-CGK
CGK-NRT
HND-JFK
JFK-SFO
SFO-DOH-OSL
OSL-DOH-MEL
MEL-NRT-DEL
DEL-KUL
KUL-SGN
Book separate SGN-CGK
CGK-NRT
HND-JFK
JFK-SFO
SFO-DOH-OSL
I can visit SGN some other time.
Does the burnt sector to switch from NRT to HND for the JFK flight count as a segment rather than a burnt sector out of the 16? If not, why does this not count as 4 Asian segments?
Melbourne: OSL-MEL (transit in Doha)
Delhi: MEL-DEL (transit in Narita)
KL: DEL-KUL (transit in Narita)
Jakarta: KUL-CGK (transit in Narita)
Tokyo: CGK-NRT
New York: HND-JFK
SF: JFK-SFO
Oslo: SFO-OSL (transit in Doha)
Last edited by obamtl; May 31, 2026 at 6:46 pm
#3696


Join Date: Nov 2024
Posts: 415
Have you checked if there are flights to/from NRT? And not the other Tokyo airport HND. If you end up with a NRT-HND ground segment that counts in the 16, but not in the continent count
Have you downloaded the rules?
FAQ "What are the RTW rules" in OW
https://www.oneworld.com/round-the-world
Have you downloaded the rules?
FAQ "What are the RTW rules" in OW
https://www.oneworld.com/round-the-world
#3697
FlyerTalk Evangelist


Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: MEL CHC
Posts: 22,933
Far better if the "transit in Narita" are listed in detail. They count as 2 segments
#3699



Join Date: Dec 2024
Programs: BA Gold, SAS EBD
Posts: 293
#3700
FlyerTalk Evangelist


Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: MEL CHC
Posts: 22,933
NRT-CGK 2nd segment
Each flight number counts as a segment.
Who was the person that "been told " counts as 1 segment? Ignore what they say.
On some flights like LHR-(SIN)-SYD that counts as 1 segment as would be ticketed LHR-SYD. Just happens to transit at SIN. And some passengers could be ticketed LHR-SIN and get off at SIN.
The rules are not that hard. Just print them out and read them several times. Have to comply with all rules.
Last edited by Mwenenzi; Yesterday at 1:57 am
#3701



Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere
Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD
Posts: 3,689
Hi obamtl
Here's an itinerary that I think will work for you:It has stops at all the places you want.
It has four flight segments in Asia (SGN-KUL-CGK-HKG and TYO-DEL)
It has the required trans-atlantic flight (SFO-DOH)
It has the required trans-pacific flight (DEL-JFK - which looks like it's not trans-pacific, but is according to OneWorld - I guess because it is from Asia to North America)
Other Notes
Yes the rules are complicated, especially if you are new to them. I recommend the Oneworld Explorer User Guide Wiki, which is more readable.
The itinerary I posted uses only 12 of the allowed 16 segments. Your profile doesn't say where you are located, but if it is in Nth America then you could make use of the four remaining segments to have an extra trip, or two, any time before the 1-year anniversary of your departure from Oslo.
Assuming this trip is pleasure, not business - might DPS be a better choice than CGK?
Edited to add:
I've just realised that Qantas flies CGK-MEL, so HKG could be dropped from the itinerary I posted
Meaning only 11 segments are being used
Which in turn means five segments would be available to use later
Here's an itinerary that I think will work for you:It has stops at all the places you want.
It has four flight segments in Asia (SGN-KUL-CGK-HKG and TYO-DEL)
It has the required trans-atlantic flight (SFO-DOH)
It has the required trans-pacific flight (DEL-JFK - which looks like it's not trans-pacific, but is according to OneWorld - I guess because it is from Asia to North America)
Other Notes
Yes the rules are complicated, especially if you are new to them. I recommend the Oneworld Explorer User Guide Wiki, which is more readable.
The itinerary I posted uses only 12 of the allowed 16 segments. Your profile doesn't say where you are located, but if it is in Nth America then you could make use of the four remaining segments to have an extra trip, or two, any time before the 1-year anniversary of your departure from Oslo.
Assuming this trip is pleasure, not business - might DPS be a better choice than CGK?
Edited to add:
I've just realised that Qantas flies CGK-MEL, so HKG could be dropped from the itinerary I posted
Meaning only 11 segments are being used
Which in turn means five segments would be available to use later
Last edited by pandaperth; Yesterday at 4:08 am
#3702


Join Date: Apr 2007
Programs: QF, AC, Hyatt, Hilton
Posts: 4,252
Most people in this thread will be happy to assist.
#3703


Join Date: Nov 2024
Posts: 415
Hi obamtl
Here's an itinerary that I think will work for you:It has stops at all the places you want.
It has four flight segments in Asia (SGN-KUL-CGK-HKG and TYO-DEL)
It has the required trans-atlantic flight (SFO-DOH)
It has the required trans-pacific flight (DEL-JFK - which looks like it's not trans-pacific, but is according to OneWorld - I guess because it is from Asia to North America)
Other Notes
Yes the rules are complicated, especially if you are new to them. I recommend the Oneworld Explorer User Guide Wiki, which is more readable.
The itinerary I posted uses only 12 of the allowed 16 segments. Your profile doesn't say where you are located, but if it is in Nth America then you could make use of the four remaining segments to have an extra trip, or two, any time before the 1-year anniversary of your departure from Oslo.
Assuming this trip is pleasure, not business - might DPS be a better choice than CGK?
Edited to add:
I've just realised that Qantas flies CGK-MEL, so HKG could be dropped from the itinerary I posted
Meaning only 11 segments are being used
Which in turn means five segments would be available to use later
Here's an itinerary that I think will work for you:It has stops at all the places you want.
It has four flight segments in Asia (SGN-KUL-CGK-HKG and TYO-DEL)
It has the required trans-atlantic flight (SFO-DOH)
It has the required trans-pacific flight (DEL-JFK - which looks like it's not trans-pacific, but is according to OneWorld - I guess because it is from Asia to North America)
Other Notes
Yes the rules are complicated, especially if you are new to them. I recommend the Oneworld Explorer User Guide Wiki, which is more readable.
The itinerary I posted uses only 12 of the allowed 16 segments. Your profile doesn't say where you are located, but if it is in Nth America then you could make use of the four remaining segments to have an extra trip, or two, any time before the 1-year anniversary of your departure from Oslo.
Assuming this trip is pleasure, not business - might DPS be a better choice than CGK?
Edited to add:
I've just realised that Qantas flies CGK-MEL, so HKG could be dropped from the itinerary I posted
Meaning only 11 segments are being used
Which in turn means five segments would be available to use later
These flights will be credited to BA, hence why trying as much as possible to prioritise JL and QR over other airlines, and why I was trying to use JL to hop around Asia. If a flight with JL from KUL to SGN going through NRT uses up 2 of the 4 Asian segments, then I’ll have to significantly rethink the itinerary as it means hopping around Asia may not be viable using a DONE4.
#3704



Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere
Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD
Posts: 3,689
Now that I have a better understanding of your aims, how about this 14-flight itinerarySalient features:
44,534 mile, 12-flight RTW from OSL to MAN (or any other UK airport to which QR flies)
of which
37,354 miles, 8 flights are on either QR or JL
Plus
6,447 miles, 2 QR flight MAN-DOH-OSL to be taken any time within the ticket's 12-month validity
Plus
According to expertflyer.com QR codeshares on AA's JFK-SFO flights
Off the wall suggestion:
When you are back in the UK, you could change your ticket to a DONE5, and fly MAN-DOH-CPT-DOH-OSL
15,677 miles, 4 QR flights
Incremental cost would be NOK8226 plus taxes and charges
44,534 mile, 12-flight RTW from OSL to MAN (or any other UK airport to which QR flies)
of which
37,354 miles, 8 flights are on either QR or JL
Plus
6,447 miles, 2 QR flight MAN-DOH-OSL to be taken any time within the ticket's 12-month validity
Plus
According to expertflyer.com QR codeshares on AA's JFK-SFO flights
Off the wall suggestion:
When you are back in the UK, you could change your ticket to a DONE5, and fly MAN-DOH-CPT-DOH-OSL
15,677 miles, 4 QR flights
Incremental cost would be NOK8226 plus taxes and charges
Last edited by pandaperth; Today at 1:51 am Reason: tweaked the gcmaps



