Jun 5, 2025, 12:53 am
Oneworld booking and pricing experiences
Dec 18, 2024 | 9:37 am
#2611
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 632
"Introduced in 1994 as a green tax, levied on every flight departing a UK airport, the proceeds from APD have never actually been used to neutralise the environmental impact of air travel and have instead been funnelled into the general tax pot."
Dec 22, 2024 | 1:24 pm
#2612
Join Date: Feb 2023
Programs: BA Gold, United Gold, Eurostar Carte Blanche
Posts: 262
I did some playing around with ChatGPT to help me program a scrapper to get all of these AONEx fares from ExpertFlyer.
For reference, see below the top 30 list. Some definitions
I'd be happy to do the same for DONE if people find this helpful, let me know
For reference, see below the top 30 list. Some definitions
- This is with JL as ticketing carrier. I have checked with AA as well and there weren't any noticeable differences, but didn't check in detail / check all ticketing carriers (I plan to do that later).
- All prices are in USD
- I sometimes included multiple airports in the same country as I wasn't sure if they would price differently (they don't, pricing appears to be by country)
- I ranked them by increasing AONE6 fares. The ranking is not 100% the same for all the fares (e.g. DEL is cheaper than KUL for AONE3 but more expensive for AONE6), so you should check for what you want
- I have added points in various continents as I was trying to find where to start (ideally I would have liked to start in Americas as I don't care as much about US flights but wanted to maximize Asia / EU-DOH segments). Sadly Americas is by far the most expensive
- Note: Cairo has really been priced to death. It now ranks last on the list, at almost double the prices of ex-Japan...
I'd be happy to do the same for DONE if people find this helpful, let me know
Last edited by Hennebou; Dec 22, 2024 at 1:25 pm Reason: Added some details
Dec 22, 2024 | 5:17 pm
#2614
Join Date: Nov 2023
Posts: 204
I did some playing around with ChatGPT to help me program a scrapper to get all of these AONEx fares from ExpertFlyer.
For reference, see below the top 30 list. Some definitions
I'd be happy to do the same for DONE if people find this helpful, let me know
For reference, see below the top 30 list. Some definitions
- This is with JL as ticketing carrier. I have checked with AA as well and there weren't any noticeable differences, but didn't check in detail / check all ticketing carriers (I plan to do that later).
- All prices are in USD
- I sometimes included multiple airports in the same country as I wasn't sure if they would price differently (they don't, pricing appears to be by country)
- I ranked them by increasing AONE6 fares. The ranking is not 100% the same for all the fares (e.g. DEL is cheaper than KUL for AONE3 but more expensive for AONE6), so you should check for what you want
- I have added points in various continents as I was trying to find where to start (ideally I would have liked to start in Americas as I don't care as much about US flights but wanted to maximize Asia / EU-DOH segments). Sadly Americas is by far the most expensive
- Note: Cairo has really been priced to death. It now ranks last on the list, at almost double the prices of ex-Japan...
I'd be happy to do the same for DONE if people find this helpful, let me know
Yes, D would be great if you have time to do it
Dec 22, 2024 | 7:07 pm
#2615
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: MEL CHC
Posts: 22,913
Indeed. Fewer airlines/routes/aircraft have long haul first class. And decreasing as time goes on
With some airlines international business class is better than other airlines first class. Especially if modern business class suites.
Does American still have international first class?
It's the last true international first-class product being flown by any American carrier. But Flagship First has been around since the early 2010s, and American plans to formally retire the product in the coming years.19 Oct 2024
It's the last true international first-class product being flown by any American carrier. But Flagship First has been around since the early 2010s, and American plans to formally retire the product in the coming years.19 Oct 2024
Dec 23, 2024 | 3:47 am
#2617
Join Date: Feb 2023
Programs: BA Gold, United Gold, Eurostar Carte Blanche
Posts: 262
Here you go, updated list including DONE, removing duplicates (only showing one airport by country -- all the airports within a country have the same base fare), and with improved formatting (showing ranking). Oslo wins for DONEx it seems.
Really? That was one of my questions actually. Looking ahead on EF, it looks like on some airlines (e.g. JAL) it's very hard to see even one seat available in A, even months in advance. But I was hoping that they would show up closer to departure... Maybe not.
Dec 23, 2024 | 3:52 am
#2618
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: BOS/UTH
Programs: AA LT PLT; QRPC PLT/OW EMD; Bonvoy LT Titanium
Posts: 14,571
I did some playing around with ChatGPT to help me program a scrapper to get all of these AONEx fares from ExpertFlyer.
For reference, see below the top 30 list. Some definitions
I'd be happy to do the same for DONE if people find this helpful, let me know
For reference, see below the top 30 list. Some definitions
- This is with JL as ticketing carrier. I have checked with AA as well and there weren't any noticeable differences, but didn't check in detail / check all ticketing carriers (I plan to do that later).
- All prices are in USD
- I sometimes included multiple airports in the same country as I wasn't sure if they would price differently (they don't, pricing appears to be by country)
- I ranked them by increasing AONE6 fares. The ranking is not 100% the same for all the fares (e.g. DEL is cheaper than KUL for AONE3 but more expensive for AONE6), so you should check for what you want
- I have added points in various continents as I was trying to find where to start (ideally I would have liked to start in Americas as I don't care as much about US flights but wanted to maximize Asia / EU-DOH segments). Sadly Americas is by far the most expensive
- Note: Cairo has really been priced to death. It now ranks last on the list, at almost double the prices of ex-Japan...
I'd be happy to do the same for DONE if people find this helpful, let me know
Just out of curiosity, what airline are you flying TATL in F? AFAIK, the only options are BA and AA, and I think that QR J is better than either of those. Plus, to whatever extent you're trying to maximize mileage, DOH to North America is much better than LHR to N.A.
Dec 23, 2024 | 6:42 am
#2619
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NRT / HND
Programs: AA EXP, A3 Gold, Former UA 1K
Posts: 6,365
Really nice work. Something for everyone to be aware of, Pakistan implemented a luxury tax on air tickets a few months back that adds a good chunk to the ex-KHI / ISB / LHE price. India has one too, not sure if it's only premium cabins or all air tickets, but was about $500 on the last business ticket I searched for ex-India.
Dec 24, 2024 | 7:59 pm
#2622
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 57
This is very useful information. Thanks for contributing.
As a question to the members of this forum, why is there so much information about One World RTW tickets and comparatively little information about Star Alliance RTW tickets? A search of Flyertalk threads shows many many more OW than *A RTW posts.
Dec 25, 2024 | 4:52 am
#2623
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 10,616
In my experience, star alliance RTW products are not as flexible because they don't allow for backtracking like xonex does (within region). There is still value if you can make it work for you, mainly by choosing stopover cities carefully, but I don't think the complexity level is high. YMMV.
Dec 25, 2024 | 5:55 am
#2624
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: BOS/UTH
Programs: AA LT PLT; QRPC PLT/OW EMD; Bonvoy LT Titanium
Posts: 14,571
I assume that you set this up in Excel. Would you put it online and make the link available here? I'll be happy to if you can't, don't want to, or don't know how.
Dec 30, 2024 | 9:35 am
#2625
Join Date: Dec 2016
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 566
Here you go, updated list including DONE, removing duplicates (only showing one airport by country -- all the airports within a country have the same base fare), and with improved formatting (showing ranking). Oslo wins for DONEx it seems.
Really? That was one of my questions actually. Looking ahead on EF, it looks like on some airlines (e.g. JAL) it's very hard to see even one seat available in A, even months in advance. But I was hoping that they would show up closer to departure... Maybe not.
Really? That was one of my questions actually. Looking ahead on EF, it looks like on some airlines (e.g. JAL) it's very hard to see even one seat available in A, even months in advance. But I was hoping that they would show up closer to departure... Maybe not.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...il-2025-a.html
I predict an influx into the oneworld forum from BAEC...