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#3181
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 353
Thanks for your answer.

But is there a card that will not refund in normal conditions? (I'm not talking about gimmicks to get more points or anything...)
#3182
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: GVA (Greater Vancouver Area)
Programs: D.R.E.A.D. Gold card holder
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#3183




Join Date: Jun 2007
Programs: SPG
Posts: 136
Hello,
My credit score is 730+, last cc application (BMO AirMiles World Elite) was at the end of January. I am in Ontario. I would like to apply for a couple of Cards and would like some opinions.
1. The American Express AIR MILES* Platinum Credit Card w/ 2,000 AIR MILES bonus. I presently have two Amex cards: Starwood and plain AirMiles card (had this for 10+ years). Will Amex approve me for the 3rd card? Would I be able to self refer to this card, and if not, what is the best sign up additional money I can get? I do not believe I can change my plain AirMiles card to AIR MILES* Platinum and get a sign up bonus.
2. Chase Marriott Rewards Premier Visa Card. I've got this card in November 2014, cancelled in October 2015. I should be able to get 50K sign up bonus now (minus free night certificate), correct? I've read about Chase being strict with accepting applications with >5 credit pulls in the past 5 years; not sure if it is for US or applies to Canada as well.
Do Amex and Chase do credit pulls from different bureaus? Any preference to which card I should apply first?
Thanks!
My credit score is 730+, last cc application (BMO AirMiles World Elite) was at the end of January. I am in Ontario. I would like to apply for a couple of Cards and would like some opinions.
1. The American Express AIR MILES* Platinum Credit Card w/ 2,000 AIR MILES bonus. I presently have two Amex cards: Starwood and plain AirMiles card (had this for 10+ years). Will Amex approve me for the 3rd card? Would I be able to self refer to this card, and if not, what is the best sign up additional money I can get? I do not believe I can change my plain AirMiles card to AIR MILES* Platinum and get a sign up bonus.
2. Chase Marriott Rewards Premier Visa Card. I've got this card in November 2014, cancelled in October 2015. I should be able to get 50K sign up bonus now (minus free night certificate), correct? I've read about Chase being strict with accepting applications with >5 credit pulls in the past 5 years; not sure if it is for US or applies to Canada as well.
Do Amex and Chase do credit pulls from different bureaus? Any preference to which card I should apply first?
Thanks!
#3184
Join Date: Sep 2014
Programs: Marriott Gold, SPG Gold, Hyatt Gold
Posts: 81
Hello,
My credit score is 730+, last cc application (BMO AirMiles World Elite) was at the end of January. I am in Ontario. I would like to apply for a couple of Cards and would like some opinions.
1. The American Express AIR MILES* Platinum Credit Card w/ 2,000 AIR MILES bonus. I presently have two Amex cards: Starwood and plain AirMiles card (had this for 10+ years). Will Amex approve me for the 3rd card? Would I be able to self refer to this card, and if not, what is the best sign up additional money I can get? I do not believe I can change my plain AirMiles card to AIR MILES* Platinum and get a sign up bonus.
2. Chase Marriott Rewards Premier Visa Card. I've got this card in November 2014, cancelled in October 2015. I should be able to get 50K sign up bonus now (minus free night certificate), correct? I've read about Chase being strict with accepting applications with >5 credit pulls in the past 5 years; not sure if it is for US or applies to Canada as well.
Do Amex and Chase do credit pulls from different bureaus? Any preference to which card I should apply first?
Thanks!
My credit score is 730+, last cc application (BMO AirMiles World Elite) was at the end of January. I am in Ontario. I would like to apply for a couple of Cards and would like some opinions.
1. The American Express AIR MILES* Platinum Credit Card w/ 2,000 AIR MILES bonus. I presently have two Amex cards: Starwood and plain AirMiles card (had this for 10+ years). Will Amex approve me for the 3rd card? Would I be able to self refer to this card, and if not, what is the best sign up additional money I can get? I do not believe I can change my plain AirMiles card to AIR MILES* Platinum and get a sign up bonus.
2. Chase Marriott Rewards Premier Visa Card. I've got this card in November 2014, cancelled in October 2015. I should be able to get 50K sign up bonus now (minus free night certificate), correct? I've read about Chase being strict with accepting applications with >5 credit pulls in the past 5 years; not sure if it is for US or applies to Canada as well.
Do Amex and Chase do credit pulls from different bureaus? Any preference to which card I should apply first?
Thanks!
You're better off with one of the charge cards (Gold, Platinum)
#3185




Join Date: Jun 2007
Programs: SPG
Posts: 136
I will keep SPG for now and will worry about Amex Air Miles later on.I cancelled Business Gold in January, had it since February 2015 - is it too early to reapply?
I am mildly interested in Platinum charge card with 75K sign up bonus since many of the airports where I will be do not have a Priority Pass lounge. How does car rental get charged when booked via portal for $200 credit - when the car is booked or when it is dropped off? It looks like to me it is charged when it is booked.
#3186




Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Canada
Programs: *void
Posts: 2,409
The general rule is to wait about 3 months after cancelling, before reapplying for an Amex card. That said I've reapplied for the Biz Gold Rewards card within a week after cancelling without issues. However, I may have been lucky, as there were others in the past (look in the older 2013/2014 Amex Canada threads) who have reported that a newly cancelled account was re-opened when applying too soon, such as within a month after cancelling.
#3187




Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: yyz
Posts: 1,642
I don't know if this is the right forum so please move mods if appropriate.
I have a refundable flight that I charged to my SPG Amex a couple of months ago. I need to refund it and book a new one. Can I just book the new one, incurring the charge (and earning the SPG points) and then cancel hte other one to offset the new charge?
I wouldn only do this once as I don't want to raise any red flags with Amex, but if i can do this legitimately I could get a nice new bunch of SPG points.
I have a refundable flight that I charged to my SPG Amex a couple of months ago. I need to refund it and book a new one. Can I just book the new one, incurring the charge (and earning the SPG points) and then cancel hte other one to offset the new charge?
I wouldn only do this once as I don't want to raise any red flags with Amex, but if i can do this legitimately I could get a nice new bunch of SPG points.
#3188


Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,795
I don't know if this is the right forum so please move mods if appropriate.
I have a refundable flight that I charged to my SPG Amex a couple of months ago. I need to refund it and book a new one. Can I just book the new one, incurring the charge (and earning the SPG points) and then cancel hte other one to offset the new charge?
I wouldn only do this once as I don't want to raise any red flags with Amex, but if i can do this legitimately I could get a nice new bunch of SPG points.
I have a refundable flight that I charged to my SPG Amex a couple of months ago. I need to refund it and book a new one. Can I just book the new one, incurring the charge (and earning the SPG points) and then cancel hte other one to offset the new charge?
I wouldn only do this once as I don't want to raise any red flags with Amex, but if i can do this legitimately I could get a nice new bunch of SPG points.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/starw...press-123.html
but I don't see why not
although, how is it different than cancel first + re-book?
You'll miss the original SPG points from original booking refund, but gain new SPG points on new booking
#3189




Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: yyz
Posts: 1,642
Probably belongs in SPG thread :P
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/starw...press-123.html
but I don't see why not
although, how is it different than cancel first + re-book?
You'll miss the original SPG points from original booking refund, but gain new SPG points on new booking
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/starw...press-123.html
but I don't see why not
although, how is it different than cancel first + re-book?
You'll miss the original SPG points from original booking refund, but gain new SPG points on new booking
#3190


Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: YUL
Posts: 344
It's not really a SPG-card issue. Could be any card, really. On the refund to they put my account into a -ve SPG transfer balance? They can't exactly claw back points from my SPG account. I was wondering if I get the points twice, really. Sounds too good to be true, which leads me to believe it isn't.
-Statement 1:
- 1 flight, $5000
-Statement 2:
- 1 flight, $5000
- 1 flight refund, -$5000
No matter how you do it. If you return a purchase of X dollars, you will get X points deducted from your new purchases.
It can help fast track to make a refundable large purchase but you won't get free points for an item later returned/refunded.
#3191




Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: yyz
Posts: 1,642
Let me put it that way
-Statement 1:
-Statement 2:
No matter how you do it. If you return a purchase of X dollars, you will get X points deducted from your new purchases.
It can help fast track to make a refundable large purchase but you won't get free points for an item later returned/refunded.
-Statement 1:
- 1 flight, $5000
-Statement 2:
- 1 flight, $5000
- 1 flight refund, -$5000
No matter how you do it. If you return a purchase of X dollars, you will get X points deducted from your new purchases.
It can help fast track to make a refundable large purchase but you won't get free points for an item later returned/refunded.
#3192




Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the air
Programs: Occasional RTW club
Posts: 7,008
Let me put it that way
-Statement 1:
-Statement 2:
No matter how you do it. If you return a purchase of X dollars, you will get X points deducted from your new purchases.
It can help fast track to make a refundable large purchase but you won't get free points for an item later returned/refunded.
-Statement 1:
- 1 flight, $5000
-Statement 2:
- 1 flight, $5000
- 1 flight refund, -$5000
No matter how you do it. If you return a purchase of X dollars, you will get X points deducted from your new purchases.
It can help fast track to make a refundable large purchase but you won't get free points for an item later returned/refunded.
#3193




Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: yyz
Posts: 1,642
Both TD and CIBC are offering 50k Aeroplan points on the Privilege versions of their cards. $399 annual fees on both, so definitely not cheap. But I like the card for zone 2 boarding. When it comes up for renewal I don't know if I'll keep it. Probably threaten to cancel (legitimately) and if they don't play ball get the competing product (hopefully it still offers 50k points).
#3194




Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Toronto, Canada
Programs: Aeroplan, Bonvoy, Alaska, Avios
Posts: 1,295
I've got credits back from Aeroplan redemptions to cards that were cancelled in the meantime. I've got cheques back (Amex/TD) and a transfer to another card (TD). Only in one case did TD (no surprise) claw back the points from my AP account.
#3195
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Join Date: May 2014
Location: YYZ
Posts: 527
Both TD and CIBC are offering 50k Aeroplan points on the Privilege versions of their cards. $399 annual fees on both, so definitely not cheap. But I like the card for zone 2 boarding. When it comes up for renewal I don't know if I'll keep it. Probably threaten to cancel (legitimately) and if they don't play ball get the competing product (hopefully it still offers 50k points).



