Last edit by: irishguy28
Unofficial cancellation statement from Alitalia: see post #2414, or the original post in Italian on a similar Italian forum
COW8C fare rules available in post #147 (second box)
DOW8C fare rules available in post #150
IOWGE fare rules available in post #1241
IRTGE fare rules available in post #1555
CRTEU fare rules available in post #1589
DOWGE fare rules available in post #1601
IRT8C2 fare rules available in post #2105
COW8C fare rules available in post #147 (second box)
DOW8C fare rules available in post #150
IOWGE fare rules available in post #1241
IRTGE fare rules available in post #1555
CRTEU fare rules available in post #1589
DOWGE fare rules available in post #1601
IRT8C2 fare rules available in post #2105
[PREM FARE GONE] FLR-HKG/ICN/NRT-DUS from 770€ / J
#3287
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: POLAND
Programs: Hilton Diamond, IHG Platinum AMB, PrivilegeClub Gold
Posts: 96
Anyhow, I will wait for a week, if no solution I will firmly demand reinstatement of the original booking. Got nothing to lose, except time, which I have plenty t my disposal.
#3288
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: SJJ/AMS
Posts: 4,647
Even though I understand your frustration (and share some of it), I always find it a bit sad when we reach that point in the process where we start bashing the airline, the OTAs and their employees, national cultures and the likes.
AZ staff are probably not in the best of moods right now, and with good reason. I have never had a problem with them in the past and I will wait a bit longer before drawing conclusions. Not handled well? Certainly. Necessary to bash the airline, country of employees? Certainly not.
AZ staff are probably not in the best of moods right now, and with good reason. I have never had a problem with them in the past and I will wait a bit longer before drawing conclusions. Not handled well? Certainly. Necessary to bash the airline, country of employees? Certainly not.
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#3289
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: SJJ/AMS
Posts: 4,647
I know, but I was surprised that even a Polish-language call centre is outsourced to Ukraine or Belarus (judging by the accent), as labour costs in Poland are not that high. And of course I realised the possible consequences of booking an EF, but what annoys me is the unprofessional behaviour of the airline. Expedia.nl employees were very nice though, despite not being helpful at all.
Anyhow, I will wait for a week, if no solution I will firmly demand reinstatement of the original booking. Got nothing to lose, except time, which I have plenty t my disposal.
Anyhow, I will wait for a week, if no solution I will firmly demand reinstatement of the original booking. Got nothing to lose, except time, which I have plenty t my disposal.
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#3291
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: POLAND
Programs: Hilton Diamond, IHG Platinum AMB, PrivilegeClub Gold
Posts: 96
On that note, they (rather surprisingly) still have an office in Nowy Świat in Warsaw, God only knows at what purpose and given their reduced presence in terms of services in Poland (you will surely remember the 4 daily flights to WAW and the 2XD to KRK - the good-old-days!).
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#3292
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: U.K.
Programs: QR P; HH D; IHG SpAmb
Posts: 775
Well, to be frank AZ thoroughly deserves the bashing here following the way they are handling this (AZ as the airline and the higher ups who decided to screw this all up, not the CS employees etc.). As for OTAs, i would guess those currently working for expedia (and others) must be even more frustrated than us and i wonder how big a hole this leaves for a company like expedia who these few days must have spent a significant amount of resources on this without possibly seeing a dime.
#3294
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: BOS/ORH
Programs: AS 75K
Posts: 18,323
Its been a fun read. I'm gad i didn't waste my time. I've dealt with an alleged mistake fare once that was ticketed by Alitalia. They will typically cancel a segment and the rest of the ticket falls apart a few days to weeks later. If you have remaining legs don't expect them to last or expect to board.
at all the newbie posts and not so newbies throwing temper tantrums saying bad things about an airline just because they didn't get their way.
P.S. if your flight touches the US and you get jerked around about the refund process, submit to DOT. They won't force to honor but can hold the airline accountable for taking too long to process refunds.
First AS RTW1 states, DOT put their regulation on hold so they don't care. Second like the currency one on UA (Danish?) where everyone was accused of "hacking" the website. It should have been a slam dunk win, instead DOT decided the fares weren't marketed to those living in the US so they disclaimed jurisdiction instead of actually looking into the issue. Same issue here. It's marketed to those in FLR or DUS, going from Europe to Europe.
at all the newbie posts and not so newbies throwing temper tantrums saying bad things about an airline just because they didn't get their way.
P.S. if your flight touches the US and you get jerked around about the refund process, submit to DOT. They won't force to honor but can hold the airline accountable for taking too long to process refunds.
Last edited by CDKing; Dec 17, 2016 at 11:57 am
#3295
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: C2c
Programs: GOLD: AZ....maybe :-P
Posts: 629
Are you really sure refund will take so long?
Months ago I had flight changes and asked Budgetair for a refund.
They sent me an email where they stated refund would take from 2 to 24 weeks.
3 days ago my CC was credited the amount.
I mean....Just wait until Monday before blaming the whole world :-D
Months ago I had flight changes and asked Budgetair for a refund.
They sent me an email where they stated refund would take from 2 to 24 weeks.
3 days ago my CC was credited the amount.
I mean....Just wait until Monday before blaming the whole world :-D
#3296
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 33
Two 055 tickets booked through ebookers:
FLR-CDG-SEZ (AF, Air Seychelles codeshared with AZ), KIX-HKG-LAX (CX), SFO-HEL-DUS (AY)
FLR-CDG-SFO (AF codeshared with AZ), SFO-HKG-PEK (CX), CTU-HKG-DUS (CX)
both had the first codeshared AZ segments removed, leaving me with:
KIX-HKG-LAX (CX), SFO-HEL-DUS (AY)
SFO-HKG-PEK (CX), CTU-HKG-DUS (CX)
Hopefully I get to keep those
FLR-CDG-SEZ (AF, Air Seychelles codeshared with AZ), KIX-HKG-LAX (CX), SFO-HEL-DUS (AY)
FLR-CDG-SFO (AF codeshared with AZ), SFO-HKG-PEK (CX), CTU-HKG-DUS (CX)
both had the first codeshared AZ segments removed, leaving me with:
KIX-HKG-LAX (CX), SFO-HEL-DUS (AY)
SFO-HKG-PEK (CX), CTU-HKG-DUS (CX)
Hopefully I get to keep those
#3297
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: UK
Programs: AA Platinum Pro, HHonors Diamond
Posts: 174
Mine's just gone in the last hour or so - it was BRU>MIA>FCO>FLR in March on 055 stock.
I dont really mind the cancellation, it's one of those things and while I was crossing my fingers I knew it was unlikely to go through... What I do mind is the absolutely appalling lack of communication about what they're doing. They have all my contact details including email, phone and postal address yet haven't bothered to reach out and tell me about the changes which they should be doing as soon as they make them - I can't believe for a moment that the significant changes without communication is compatible with EU consumer protection regulations.
I dont really mind the cancellation, it's one of those things and while I was crossing my fingers I knew it was unlikely to go through... What I do mind is the absolutely appalling lack of communication about what they're doing. They have all my contact details including email, phone and postal address yet haven't bothered to reach out and tell me about the changes which they should be doing as soon as they make them - I can't believe for a moment that the significant changes without communication is compatible with EU consumer protection regulations.
#3300
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: New York, NY, USA
Posts: 12,482
.....AA website: same as on 14th dec
Saudi website: original itin still intact
eBookers website: same, original itin still intact
Alitalia website: "Unable to locate reservation. Please try again."
Air France website: "Your reservation file is empty. Please contact our customer service for information about this file"....
Saudi website: original itin still intact
eBookers website: same, original itin still intact
Alitalia website: "Unable to locate reservation. Please try again."
Air France website: "Your reservation file is empty. Please contact our customer service for information about this file"....