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Old Mar 6, 2013, 7:40 am
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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Lufthansa BC offer

Lufthansa just started a summer sale from Europe.
Fare examples from Amsterdam:

AMS - SIN : EUR 1.999 (most Asian destination except Nagoya: EUR 2.299 and Osaka EUR 2.399)
AMS - JNB : EUR 1.999
AMS - DXB : EUR 1.399
and others

Purchase by 12.03
Departure between 1 July and 31 August
Return between 7 July and 30 November
Minimum stay Middle East: 6 days
Minimum stay other destinations: 10-days
Maximum stay: 3-months
No refund
Changes: EUR 240
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Old Mar 6, 2013, 8:11 am
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Originally Posted by mileageking
That's a great offer. Don't see this fare though, any sample dates? Any *A partners matching?
August 2013: on klm.com
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Old Mar 6, 2013, 8:20 am
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Originally Posted by CaptRobPhD
A little change of pace as I look to go to TH again in May (depending on whether you're a miles, points or redeemable addict, these may appeal)--seem a bit better deal than all the MADness:

AMS KUL BKK r/t ($2428ai, MH, booked Z/J/Z/Z): 14232 EQM (17.1cpm), 21348 EQP (11.4cpm), 32022 RDM (7.6cpm-with AA PLT boni). 777/738.

FRA AMM BKK r/t ($1782ai, RJ, booked I/I/I/I): 12278 EQM (14.5cpm), 18417 EQP (9.7cpm), 27265 RDM (6.5cpm-with AA PLT boni). Airport appreciation break in AMM. 321/330.
Nice find, do you have any sample dates? I just experienced MH's biz service on the AMS route last month and found it very nice. Too bad the 380 is only planned for CDG and LHR at the moment. For those crediting to CX, all of these fares earn 125% miles.

Edited to add: I found the MH fare on the first sample date I tried, 05/30-06/03, +/- a couple of days. But AY is coming in even less, at $2,226 (as are the usual-suspect lesser airlines like MS, CI, SU). LH and LX around the same!

Last edited by mecabq; Mar 6, 2013 at 8:27 am
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Old Mar 6, 2013, 9:34 am
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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Originally Posted by HaikoW
Lufthansa just started a summer sale from Europe.
Fare examples from Amsterdam:

AMS - SIN : EUR 1.999 (most Asian destination except Nagoya: EUR 2.299 and Osaka EUR 2.399)
AMS - JNB : EUR 1.999
AMS - DXB : EUR 1.399
and others

Purchase by 12.03
Departure between 1 July and 31 August
Return between 7 July and 30 November
Minimum stay Middle East: 6 days
Minimum stay other destinations: 10-days
Maximum stay: 3-months
No refund
Changes: EUR 240
Probably booked in P fare bucket
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Old Mar 6, 2013, 10:14 am
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@mecabq: just reran for a PMer and found Aug 14-21, so I suspect they are fairly common. Going only by what I read online, having never been on either AY or MH, I bet the extra $200 on MH is worth the better ride. I'd love to try LX or LH but wrong alliance -- they both fly from ORD, as does RJ, so theres an outside chance something direct may pop up too.
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Old Mar 6, 2013, 11:24 am
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Originally Posted by NA-Flyer
Probably booked in P fare bucket
Aside from crediting issues to UA, what's wrong with LH P?
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Old Mar 6, 2013, 11:33 am
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Originally Posted by unavaca
Aside from crediting issues to UA, what's wrong with LH P?
P should be 125% RDM and 150% PQM on LH
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Old Mar 6, 2013, 11:34 am
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MH fares to LAX

I posted some time ago about low one-way MH fares from certain cities in SE Asia (PNH and REP were the lowest). Those are still available, but I also found (and booked) a one-way HKG-LAX today for approx 1540USD in J. Routing is HKG-NRT on CX (or JL if you prefer, also available), onwards on NRT-LAX on MH. Excellent fare for that route. Availability only on days when MH flies NRT-LAX (operates S, M, W, F). Booked in J, 125% EQMs on AA.

Not the *cheapest* for a mileage run but if you credit to AAdvantage and travel before April 15 you can get double miles. Be sure to register for that promo first via AA.com.
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Old Mar 6, 2013, 11:37 am
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Originally Posted by unavaca
Aside from crediting issues to UA, what's wrong with LH P?
The earning rates are appalling even if you credit LH P fares to LH's own M&M scheme: just 1.0x, which is less than full (Y, B) economy.
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Old Mar 6, 2013, 12:20 pm
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BA "A380" sale Europe to LAX and HKG

Mentioned previously, but here's some details

From various European cities (likely all BA cities, varying in price as usual)
Intended to hype start of A380 service, but not specifically tied to A380 flights

To LAX: Booking code I0SALE
example fares, r/t a/i:
FCO-LAX-FCO (via JFK, AA767 TATL and domestic): €1868
FCO-LAX-FCO (via LHR with at least one A380 segment): €1921

Purchase by 15 March 13
Fly outbound 15 Oct 13 - 18 Feb 14
Stay Su/3mo
No stopovers
Changes €300

To HKG: Booking code INCEUR1
example fare r/t a/i:
FCO-HKG-FCO €1963

Purchase by 15 March 13
Fly outbound 15 Nov 13 - 30 Mar 14 (not offered in late Dec 13)
Stay 3d/12mo
Stopovers in UK at €200 (such a deal)
Changes €350
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Old Mar 6, 2013, 12:25 pm
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Originally Posted by IMH
The earning rates are appalling even if you credit LH P fares to LH's own M&M scheme: just 1.0x, which is less than full (Y, B) economy.
Funny enough, UA lists it as full fare economy :-). 125/150% earning as previously mentioned. Don't know if the fares allow LX routing, but their metal gets 150/150% on UA MP (with better hard product to boot).
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Old Mar 6, 2013, 12:47 pm
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Originally Posted by Lack
Funny enough, UA lists it as full fare economy :-). 125/150% earning as previously mentioned. Don't know if the fares allow LX routing, but their metal gets 150/150% on UA MP (with better hard product to boot).
I really looked for a LX metal routing for MAD but didn't see one for the $200 and under fares. At least non from ORD.
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Old Mar 6, 2013, 2:18 pm
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Originally Posted by IMH
The earning rates are appalling even if you credit LH P fares to LH's own M&M scheme: just 1.0x, which is less than full (Y, B) economy.
On UA, it credits at 150% EQM, which is the same as a Z or C fare, so I'm cool with LH P, slip-and-slides aside.
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Old Mar 6, 2013, 3:55 pm
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Originally Posted by dll
I posted some time ago about low one-way MH fares from certain cities in SE Asia (PNH and REP were the lowest). Those are still available, but I also found (and booked) a one-way HKG-LAX today for approx 1540USD in J. Routing is HKG-NRT on CX (or JL if you prefer, also available), onwards on NRT-LAX on MH. Excellent fare for that route. Availability only on days when MH flies NRT-LAX (operates S, M, W, F). Booked in J, 125% EQMs on AA.

Not the *cheapest* for a mileage run but if you credit to AAdvantage and travel before April 15 you can get double miles. Be sure to register for that promo first via AA.com.
can't replicate it.... can I know the sample dates? Thanks
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Old Mar 6, 2013, 4:32 pm
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dll
 
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The date I booked is no longer available but you can replicate on a number of other dates - try May 6 via Expedia or TL. Search for HKG-LAX and select business class as the cabin. First option I see there is a Cathay/Malaysia combo at 1580USD. Looking at ExpertFlyer it looks like MH limits the number of seats that can be booked solely on the NRT-LAX-NRT segments. For example, on my travel date the flight appears sold out (J0 D0) for NRT-LAX, but if you search for KUL-LAX on the same flight it returns wide availability. If you cannot find flights try looking at some other dates bearing in mind they only operate S, M, W, F on the route.

If you REALLY want to backtrack for extra miles that also seems possible - HKG-KUL-(NRT)-LAX. Yowzers. Red-eye on the HKG-KUL segment. Can also get free stopover in NRT!

Last edited by dll; Mar 6, 2013 at 4:40 pm
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