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Feb 22, 2013, 3:05 am

#466

cmdsea

Join Date: Mar 2005

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Two days left for the Qatar Airways fare sale Ex-SIN.

ARN stands out as the best deal US$2510 RT all in for business Class. (S$3108)

Book by 24th Feb and travel by 31st Jul

http://www.qatarairways.com/sg/en/sp...00105600000617

Feb 22, 2013, 6:53 am

#467

Tech Noir

Join Date: Nov 2002

Location: MEL

Programs: QF, Virgin Australia

Posts: 192

Quote:

Originally Posted by armagebedar

AA: ICN-DFW-SAN RT -- first (P) from USD3,913 AI, business (I) from USD2,798 AI

Ticket by 28FEB13, travel between 11MAY13 and 31JUL13. Minimum stay 3 days, maximum stay 6 months. This is an MPM fare; the TPAC segments must be on AA26/27. 3 transfers are permitted in the US.

Cancellation: 150,000 KRW (prior to travel only)
Changes: 100,000 KRW

Other destinations (LAX, SEA, etc.) are available for higher prices and similar restrictions.

Wow, that's a great price for first class ^ Pity there is no equivalent one-way fare ex ICN.

Feb 22, 2013, 6:56 pm

#468

18sas

Join Date: Jan 2008

Location: KATL

Programs: DL DM/2MM

Posts: 2,034

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeautk01

BOS - MAD dates in June

Not seeing any of these BOS/LAX/ORD/MIA - MAD deals. Has it already vaporized?

Feb 22, 2013, 7:20 pm

#469

DesertCanuck

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 18sas

Not seeing any of these BOS/LAX/ORD/MIA - MAD deals. Has it already vaporized?

Still there. Make sure you're allowing for the 10 day minimum stay... no quick turns permitted. Good luck!

Feb 22, 2013, 8:51 pm

#470

18sas

Join Date: Jan 2008

Location: KATL

Programs: DL DM/2MM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DesertCanuck

Still there. Make sure you're allowing for the 10 day minimum stay... no quick turns permitted. Good luck!

OK Thanks. My original itin was for 11 nights, not even including the overnight on the eastbound. I started using DL.com's flexible date calendar, and am finding some availability now,but inventory seems to be very limited to a handful of dates.

Good fares though $1782ai MIA>MAD on DL.

Last edited by 18sas; Feb 22, 2013 at 10:08 pm

Feb 23, 2013, 12:03 am

#471

GuyverII

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 18sas

Not seeing any of these BOS/LAX/ORD/MIA - MAD deals. Has it already vaporized?

*A BOS-MAD for around $1900 YQ is over $900 for those that can do magic

Sample:
25MAY BOS-YUL-BRU-MAD
15SEP MAD-YYZ-BOS

Feb 23, 2013, 7:42 am

#472

Far Siren

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GuyverII

*A BOS-MAD for around $1900 YQ is over $900 for those that can do magic

Sample:
25MAY BOS-YUL-BRU-MAD
15SEP MAD-YYZ-BOS

Be careful with this itinerary, the MAD-YYZ flight is operated with a domestic first style J cabin with only a 38-40" pitch. From the Air Canada website:

Please note: New cabin interior - featuring personal touch-screen TVs or lie-flat Executive First Suites - is not available on three B767-300 (763) aircraft that operate flights between Canada and certain international locations, including:

Athens (ATH), Greece
Madrid (MAD), Spain
Cancun (CUN), Mexico
Dublin (DUB), Ireland
Maui/Kahului (OGG) and Oahu/Honolulu (HNL), Hawaii
Montego Bay (MBJ), Jamaica,
Varadero (VRA), Cuba

Feb 23, 2013, 8:38 am

#473

cheltzel

Join Date: Apr 2010

Location: ORD

Programs: AA, UA, GE

Posts: 5,123

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far Siren

This books into P class on AC. According to the UA website it only ears 100% miles. But UA also lists P as a discounted economy fare.

Feb 23, 2013, 9:35 am

#474

rehoult

Join Date: Oct 2008

Location: YYC

Posts: 4,035

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far Siren

That list will change during the next few months as effective July 1, 2013, 2 of those 3 planes get flipped to AC's new discount line, rouge. So after then, MAD or DUB or both will be back to regular lie-flat seats (currently it's showing both as lie-flat after July 1).

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheltzel

This books into P class on AC. According to the UA website it only ears 100% miles. But UA also lists P as a discounted economy fare.

No, these book into Z on AC. Generally UA/LH filed P fares are filed as Z for AC if they match.

Feb 23, 2013, 5:10 pm

#475

unavaca

Join Date: Jun 2007

Location: YVR SFO

Programs: UA G

Posts: 4,866

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheltzel

This books into P class on AC. According to the UA website it only ears 100% miles. But UA also lists P as a discounted economy fare.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rehoult

No, these book into Z on AC. Generally UA/LH filed P fares are filed as Z for AC if they match.

That's correct. On AC, these book into Z, which gets 150% PQMs on UA.

Feb 23, 2013, 5:26 pm

#476

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tech Noir

Wow, that's a great price for first class ^ Pity there is no equivalent one-way fare ex ICN.

Remember it's AA 772 FC... more equivalent to KE old biz class...

Feb 23, 2013, 6:20 pm

#477

Makanmata

Join Date: Mar 2003

Location: NYC, GIG

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Quote:

Originally Posted by oneworld82

Remember it's AA 772 FC... more equivalent to KE old biz class...

I actually thought that this was supposed to be one of the first AA 77W routes, but in any case the 772 has 180 lay flat F -- materially more comfortable than old KE J.

Feb 23, 2013, 6:21 pm

#478

TheBOSman

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Makanmata

I actually thought that this was supposed to be one of the first AA 77W routes, but in any case the 772 has 180 lay flat F -- materially more comfortable than old KE J.

I don't believe that DFW-ICN is due for the 77W anytime soon.

Feb 23, 2013, 7:38 pm

#479

aaron1262

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~$2500 Canada - S. Africa

see J fares to JNB, exYYZ/YUL/YOW ~ $2500

Seeing other very reasonable prices in BIZ to other cities in Africa too for around 3K.

Feb 23, 2013, 8:35 pm

#480

Keter

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MOW-SYD on VN (via SGN or HAN and SGN) is USD 3K RT in D.

Just USD 300 less than other Asian destinations. Maybe available from other European cities, but VN prices are not transparent (often require same country of sale).
The average economy price is approx 1,300 for this route if purchased in advance.